Mutaa - the FINAL post

“Mut`ah” refers to temporary marriage.

There is evidence in the books of the history and the cultural traditions of the Arabs that in certain situations, a temporary marital relationship between a man and a woman was considered to be acceptable among pre-Islamic Arabs. There are certain narratives (hadith) that imply that for sometime, even the Prophet (pbuh) did not prohibit such a relationship. On the other hand, certain other narratives are held as evidence to the fact that the Prophet (pbuh) did not prohibit such a relationship at all, it was prohibited, later on – after the death of the Prophet – by the second caliph, `Umar ibn al-Khattab (ra).

The Qur’an does not support this view. According to the very initial Surahs (chapters) of the Qur’an, like Surah Al-Mominun and Surah Al-Ma`arij the Qur’an specifically disallows all sexual relationships, besides that which are based on Nikah or that which were between a master and his slave girl1. The Qur’an says:

And those who guard their chastity, except with their wives and their slave girls – for they are not to be blamed. But those who trespass beyond this are the ones who are transgressors. (70: 29 - 31)

It must be remembered here that a Mutah relationship makes a woman neither a wife nor a slave girl of a person, whereas the Qur’an specifically restricts sexual relationships of a person with these two. It should be noticed that the particular word used by the Qur’an in the referred verse translated as "wives" is "azwaj" plural of "zaujah". In the classical Arabic language, a woman with whom a person had entered into a contract of Mutah was called the “Mamtu`ah” of the person, she was not referred to as the “zaujah” (wife) of the person. The verse, therefore is a clear evidence to the fact that no other relationship besides the one based on Nikah was allowed by Islam.

This should settle the issue. PERIOD.


ThE MuChaChO, man with the plan..

Agree!

Agree.
A question; What you referred means slavery is allowed in koran?

Quran was divulged when slavery was deeply rooted in the pre-islamic arabic culture. It would have been a bad idea to totally prohibit it over the night. Instead Quran improved the status of slaves and paved the way of its abolition.

In other words Islam as a religion does not accept the concept of slavery. I’ll post references at a later occasion, as it is not explicitly relevant to my post.

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ThE MuChaChO, man with the plan..

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First I saw the subject and I was like “oh man not again…” hehe but anyway.

I agree,

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PS: Admin/Moderator, could you please edit Tariq’s post. You would edit mine if I was posting such sick poems right? Ok, go ahead.

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Thank YOU!


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Wherz all the other pro-muta ppl ? Got something to chew on didn’t ya ??

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And of course you all have to agree? what would you do? disagree on these quranic verses ??


ThE MuChaChO, man with the plan..

coming to this forum has made me realized that ppl can interpret the Quranic verses anyway they want..its not even worth debating with anyone here

Yes Amigo, As Sheraz stated, Shia ppl have their own interpretation of Koran so the translation you stated may have completely different meanings in their viewpoint.


Belief is not what mind possesses, it is what possesses the mind!

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**Yes Amigo, As Sheraz stated, Shia ppl have their own interpretation of Koran so the translation you stated may have completely different meanings in their viewpoint.

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You are righton Analyze it!
we shias certainly do have our own true interpretion of quran and that is what we got from our nabbi, prophet Muhammad (sww) and his paak aal(as).
sunni people have the sheikhein interprettion of quran while wahabis i think follow yazidi interprettion of quran.

This post will be final once your false interpretation of the Qur'an is corrected.

I will be posting soon. Stay tuned.

Ramesha; there are times when silence is not the best course of action. In avoiding conflicts, truth cannot be sacrified.

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go ahead a1shah..i cant wait bro..love reading ur posts

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Oh man, this is so interesting. Shia ppl are polishing their weapons, looking hard and digging for references to defend Muta’a and attack sunnis.

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get ready Amigo dear. Is some one “Watching”?
Oh yes, BTW sect posts have been banned by GFQ. Has this ban been removed?

But a1shah; Tum to Budhay ho gaye ho. Kia Josh phir jaag utha??

Belief is not what mind possesses, it is what possesses the mind!

[This message has been edited by analyze it (edited February 15, 2001).]

My question is ... is Mu'tah practiced anywhere today? Or is it just one of those 'dead' issues like slavery?

I had heard they are allowing it in Iran, but am not sure.

If it is a 'dead' issue, why spend so much time debating it?

I don't agree to Mu'tah concept... but how can you be sure of this ... "It must be remembered here that a Mut`ah relationship makes a woman neither a wife nor a slave girl of a person"

I would imagine, after Mu'tah the woman is a wife - even if temporary. But she is a wife, with all the rights... i.e. haq-mehr and stuff.

Analyze it;

When people resort to fabricated interpretations, josh khud ba khud a ja tee hai.

Boy ‘o’ boy…I can’t wait for this to fold out!!! This is gonna be interesting.

Maybe some people are not aware of the verse in Quran which says that QURAN IS CLEAR GUIDENCE TO MAN KIND meaning its clear its easy, and there are no hidden meanings which my shia friends are talking about here.

You don’t need one of the 12 imaams to tell you what it means. You don’t need al kafi to tell you what it means.

Anyway, let see what you post. I bet ya, it will be a one long lengthy post…you know one of those cut and pastes that insaniyaat posted… I will have my question(S).

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----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----


**“Nay! We hurl truth against falsehood, so it destroys it: and behold, falsehood is vanquished…”**Quran, al-Furqaan 25:33 ]

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we certainly dont need watchabis or abdul wahab to tell us what it means!
now do we watcher

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You do not need no one, allah has made quran easy and clear. It is you people who want others to believe that there are hidden meaning in the verses. Those meanings are for your own need and your own desire. Your desire to ruin some girls life on basis of marrying her for one hour, two days, two years, so you can sleep with her and fullfil your animal instincts.


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----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----


"Nay! We hurl truth against falsehood, so it destroys it: and behold, falsehood is vanquished..."Quran, al-Furqaan 25:33 ]