Now I’m all for Muslims marrying Muslims, as well as Muslims marrying non-Muslims (who eventually convert and become Muslims), but there is such a lack of men out there that Muslims should consider marrying Muslims first and then look outside our faith… So why do Muslims look to marry outside our religion?
- if u live in a country where majority is non muslim ................ then there is a great chances that u marry some non muslim girl / guy ..............
- ** secondly if u r sort of luke worm than u may also do sth like dat ............. coz in dat case injunction of shariah is not mean much to u.**
- ** 3rd major reason ........... for mundane gains .............. like nationality, work permit and social status .............**
- ** 4 th to get social acceptability ............. where anti Islamic sentiment is strong .............. like india ....... and many countries of eourope ,,,,,,,,,,, cross religion marriage are rampant **
**in the holy quran is tarah kay logon kay baray main kaha gaya ..........
kay yeh woh log hain ju akhrat ku duniya kay thoday say faiday kay liyay bacih daity hain
**
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Some people just think they're too good for desis/Muslims.
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^ I don't think that is a reason for people "marrying out". In a majority non-muslim country, it is no surprise that you will be spending more time with non-muslims, and people do meet, believe themselves to be compatible, and marry.
A desi who was raised in the US will have more in common in most cases with an Arab muslim or American muslim who was raised in the US than they will with a desi raised in Pakistan.
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^but I dont think she's just talking about desis raised in Pakistan. I know a lot of girls who would never even think about marrying about Pakistani-American...i.e. someone born and raised in the US with parents of Pakistani origin.
with people like that, there's got to also be some sort of psychological thing behind it...being raised in a community with few other Muslims or Pakistanis, or if you don't meet with other Pakistanis or Muslims, the idea that 'they aren't good enough' can easily become a part of your psyche.
Some ppl (esp girls) prefer to marry 'out' cos they associate a lot of the negative stuff they encountered growing up with Islam and not culture, they think marrying a non-Muslim will mean they get treated more fairly. I'm not saying I agree with it, it's just what I've heard from other people.
I'm seeing a non-desi who was also non-Muslim when we first met, tbh I couldn't have cared less about his ethnicity, white, black, desi whatever.. I've never lived in a desi area so I was kinda open to anything lol, think if I'd grown up in East London or somewhere like that the chances of me ending up with a non-desi would have been slim to none, what with the strong traditional community influence and all that..
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They dont really care about religion or ethnicity when they marry.
They're trying to get rid of whatever negative experiences they had growing up.
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They are being built like that from their childhood education and so on OR they just think Allah bara ghafoor o Raheem hai... I know many who say this after found guilty of having ot had done bad in past in any sense
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i think some people may just marry to non-muslims because they love them...thisis true you kno
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Muslim men can marry 'people of the book' and only under specific conditions (Muslim woman unavailable in the area) and must raise their children as Muslims. Muslim women cannot marry not Muslims, period.
That being said, why do Muslim Pakistanis who marry nonMuslims go try to put up the charade of an Islamic ceremony? I mean if you don't care enough about your religion to follow it's teachings then go ahead and marry in Church, Townhall, or anywhere you like.
Also, I know that many Muslim men try to stretch out the limits of Islam by stating that they are allowed to marry a non-Muslim, but they choose to ignore that the woman must be chaste and honorable..which is a tall order in itself.
In the end, people are going to do what they want, but there is NO reason to bend the rules of Islam in order to justify your own actions.
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this condition is not applicable any more. if we are talking about 1400 years ago then unavailability of getting muslim women do make sense, but not anymore.
whereas, marrying someone "Ahl-e-Kitab" also only applies if they really following the real real Bible or torah, and the amend-ended ones which we see today.
so ppl marrying and bringing in these points into consideration and calling their marriages halal is really like living in caves and calling it modern architecture.
This need reference from some authentic source or is it just ur own fatwah ?
Ok now you are just plain jealous 
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this condition is not applicable any more. if we are talking about 1400 years ago then unavailability of getting muslim women do make sense, but not anymore.
whereas, marrying someone "Ahl-e-Kitab" also only applies if they really following the real real Bible or torah, and the amend-ended ones which we see today.
so ppl marrying and bringing in these points into consideration and calling their marriages halal is really like living in caves and calling it modern architecture.
I would PERSONALLY agree with you, but under Orthodox Islam, there is permissibility for Muslim men. Also, on the second point, even if we step away from the “real” Bible/Torah question, it’s arguable whether the ahl-e-kitab woman in question is so deeply committed to her faith? I mean most western societies are nominally Christian/Jewish with a high level of secularization so a “Christian” woman might not even know the basic tenets of her faith (as flawed as it might be). I think that some Muslim men use this as a crutch towards getting their community/parents to accept their marriages, particularly when there is sufficient availability of Muslim woman of good character. Besides, I ask these men: Are you prepared to take on the SOLE responsibility of raising your future children as Muslims?
As for Muslim women, there is no excuse whatsoever. My good friend (non Muslim) is going to be marrying his long time girlfriend (who is Muslim), I plan on attending his secular ceremony but not the religious one. I don’t want to be part of a farce, they are nice human beings, but going completely against my faith.
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Make sure the secular ceremony is at a disco. That makes it all gravy.
Now I'm all for Muslims marrying Muslims, as well as Muslims marrying non-Muslims (who eventually convert and become Muslims), but there is such a lack of men out there that Muslims should consider marrying Muslims first and then look outside our faith... So why do Muslims look to marry outside our religion?
I don't know that most men specifically look to marry non-Muslims. I think what happens is that they are more comfortable getting friendly with non-Muslim women, because there aren't the same cultural boundaries and restrictions. Even if you are not doing anything indecent, sometimes they are worried that it will be taken the wrong way, and so they are more reserved around Muslim women, and open up around non-Muslim women.
As for the Muslim men can marry Jewish and Christian women, but Muslim women cannot marry Jewish or Christian men, that ruling is clearly a product of centuries of patriarchal bias in interpretation of religious texts. The logic doesn't fly. So either both sexes can marry Jews and Christians. Or they both can't.
Make sure the secular ceremony is at a disco. That makes it all gravy.
Hah! That would work for me, but they are doing some wedding by the sea deal. His family is full of hippies so I imagine a lot of flowers and white doves.
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I wonder what happens to women who convert to Islam who are already married to non-Muslim men, do they/are they expected to divorce, if so even if they have children?
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^ I've heard of this happening to someone. People considered the marriage null, and she had to leave her husband. I can't remember if she had children, but I think she did.
^ I've heard of this happening to someone. People considered the marriage null, and she had to leave her husband. I can't remember if she had children, but I think she did.
Isn't this more complicated issue a the marriage predates the conversion and we don't know if the husband is supportive of the wife's conversion?
Just saying..
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^ I agree. Just mentioning what happened in the particular situation. I felt very bad for them.