Muslims Hold Massive Meeting in Bangladesh

I simply do not understand that with such a strong presence of conservative Muslim parties in Bangladesh, how come the country is still relatively peaceful with no serious religious crimes and no serious Al-Qaida’s presence there. On the contrary, Pakistan is burning in religious flames for last 20 years. Does it mean that BDs are more tolerant and matured?

Muslims Hold Massive Meeting in Bangladesh

By Associated Press

December 3, 2004, 6:59 PM EST

TONGI, Bangladesh – Muslims filled buses, trains and boats to travel to Bangladesh’s capital area for a three-day Islamic congregation that began Friday.

Organizers expect up to 4 million devotees, including nearly 40,000 foreigners, to attend the Biswa Ijtema, or the World Congregation of Muslims, on the banks of the Turag River at Tongi, an industrial town 12 miles north of capital, Dhaka.

Considered the largest Muslim congregation after the Hajj pilgrimage in Mecca, the Ijtema has been organized annually since 1966 by the Tablig Jamaat, an organization of Islamic preachers based in the Indian capital, New Delhi.

The assembly shuns politics and is dedicated to reviving the tenets of Islam and promoting peace and harmony. Participants will discuss the Quran, pray and listen to sermons by Islamic scholars from across the world.

Nearly 7,000 policemen were deployed at the venue to ensure security.

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*Originally posted by phoenixdesi: *
I simply do not understand that with such a strong presence of conservative Muslim parties in Bangladesh, how come the country is still relatively peaceful with no serious religious crimes and no serious Al-Qaida’s presence there. On the contrary, Pakistan is burning in religious flames for last 20 years. Does it mean that BDs are more tolerant and matured?

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Yes and No. BD's are mature, but they didn't have to face the commies.

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with antiobl - they didn't have the free flow of arms into their society that came with nurturing an anti-commmunist insurgency next door.

They are today where Pakistan was in 1978.

I bet if this happened in Pakistan, the first thing they would do is burn the American and Indian flag.

Away from Kashmir + Away from Afghanistan = A peacful breeding ground for peaceful religious nuts.

not too quick guys.......

Indian cricketers receive death threats

Nadeem Qadir | December 05, 2004 17:00 IST

A little-known Islamic group has threatened to kill Indian cricketers if they tour Bangladesh for the two-Test and three one-day series starting next week.

India's Deputy High Commissioner S Chakraborty said in Dhaka on Sunday that they had received a hand-written fax letter from an Islamic group called Harkat-ul-Zihad saying that Indian cricketers will be killed if they visit Bangladesh.

"The trip (by the Indian cricket team) appears quite uncertain at the moment because the BCCI would have to decide if they feel safe to come to Bangladesh following this threat," Chakraborty said.

He said the High Commission had informed the Bangladesh government about the threat and they had ensured fool-proof security to ensure the tour goes on.

"The trip (by the Indian cricket team) appears quite uncertain at the moment because the BCCI would have to decide if they feel safe to come to Bangladesh following this threat," Chakraborty said.

He said the High Commission had informed the Bangladesh government about the threat and they had ensured fool-proof security to ensure the tour goes on.

The Indian team is slated to leave on December 7 for Dhaka where the first Test begins two days later. The second Test is scheduled to be held from December 16 in Chittagong. The one-dayers will be played in Chittagong (Dec 23) and Dhaka (Dec 26, 27).

I have no idea what you guys are talking about. This is a yearly ijtemah of tableghi jamaat. We have same ijtemah in Raiwand every year and more than 1 million people attend it. You have never heard of any problems that happens there either.

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I bet if this happened in Pakistan, the first thing they would do is burn the American and Indian flag.
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TDW you are betting on the wrong things. There is a yearly tableghi jamaat ijetmah that happens in Pakistan every year and more that millioin people attend it. The good thing about Tableghi jamaat is that they do not get themselves involved in politics at all. You will never see them doing any useless crap like burning flags and shouting and burning tires and stuff like that.

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Away from Kashmir + Away from Afghanistan = A peacful breeding ground for peaceful religious nuts.
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Religious nuts? Probably for you any one with beard and who prays five times a day is a religious nut.

Known as the pacifists, Tableeghis reiterate their commitment to peaceful preaching of Islam at another annual gathering in Raiwind near Lahore. The gathering concludes on Sunday with a collective prayer. An estimated one million faithful gather for three days of prayers in Raiwind, the headquarters of Tableeghi Jammat, gathering Muslims from 150 countries, including the United States, Britain, Canada, Germany, Brunei, Canada and South Africa.

The Tableeghi Jamaat is a quietist, apolitical movement of spiritual guidance and renewal that originated from Deobandi scholarly movement in the Indian subcontinent, whose networks now reach around the world.

This Jammat never glamorously published nor show their beliefs openly in public. They preach quietly from door to door to give advice of salat (prayer) only, without mentioning another aspect of multi-faceted Islam.

Membership in the Tablighi Jamaat entails its male members leaving their homes in small groups, for varying periods of time, to teach correct Islamic practices to fellow Muslims and to invite them to join the Jamaat in the work of da`wa or tabligh [proselytizing].

It is almost next to impossible to find out who are the leaders or organisers of the huge gathering in Raiwind. The mammoth congregation of the faithful is said to be the largest after the Hajj pilgrimage in Makkah.

No banners of holy war. No demagogic calls for a ferocious battle against “infidels”. Nobody raises slogans. No flags or high sounding clerics surrounded by gun-totting guards.

On the last day of the congregation, hundreds of groups are formed to spread the elementary message of Islam to everyone throughout the world.

Jamaat Tableegh originated in the United India after the failure of the Khilafat movement in 1927. Due to British occupation, most of the Islamic scholars turned from political action to the apolitical association.

With this background, Maulana Muhammad Ilyas, a pious, learned religious leader based in Delhi founded the Jamaat.

Maulana Ilyas originally founded the movement to help the Mewatis, villagers who had so intermixed with Hindus that they had adopted many Hindu customs.

After some training, the Mewatis returned to Islamic practices and in turn started making da’wah (invitation) to others.

The Jamaat-e-Tableegh emphasizes six fundamentals and participants are expected to give “bayan” (short talk) on these same topics. These six points are; Kalma, (Allah is one and Muhammad PBUH is his last prophet), Salat (Five time prayers), Ilmu Zikar (Remembering God and Give education and get education), Ikram-e-Muslim (love and respect for humanity), Tashih-e-Nyiat (purity of intention) and Tabligh (spending time in the Allah’s paths).

Tableeghis underline the necessity to pray for God’s forgiveness and mercy. “Picking guns and fighting for power is forbidden and useless, unless we win the blessings of God,” says a Tableeghi.

As distinct from all other sects, the Tableeghis do not apostatise anyone. They prefer to invite everybody from every faith to embrace God’s message for his own good. The method is simple and non-coercive.

Tableeghis abhor politics, avoid worldly gratification, lead a simple life, reject consumerism and prefer to devote their energies to spread the message of God.

Relying on volunteerism and self-dedication, they devote a part or whole of their lives for spreading Islam while emphasising five essentials of Islam.

Their aloofness from politics, simplicity, politeness, non-sectarian and non-violent ways has given them a unique identity.

However, for some, Tableeghis are escapists, who rather than tackling the problems faced by the Muslim world are trying to find solace in isolation.

Those opposing the quiet movement narrate stories in which the earning male member left the house for Tableegh for one year, without making any arrangements for his family. But the quiet movement is only spreading.

Tableeghis have kept their group totally non-hierarchical, despite running a massive campaign and organising largest religious gatherings in South Asia. It’s a voluntary movement evolving its own norms and working patterns without getting bogged down under an organisational structure. The Tableeghi Jamaat essentially focuses on developing a character-structure that is puritan and submitting to the will of God.

Spread over four or five square kilometers, the big city they set up every year outside Raiwind, an unending mass of people gather to offer collective prayers, and again spread out to convey the self-assuaging message of God.

Unaffected by the world around them, Tableeghis keep on their non-violent, as they disappear from Raiwind on into their quiet campaign.

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Religious nuts? Probably for you any one with beard and who prays five times a day is a religious nut.
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No thats your definition. My definition includes traveling to Raiwind and BD to meet other Reli-Nuts. My definition also includes Hee-bees with Hats and long curly twisty side-burns, and the BAC's (Generalizing) that come banging on my door telling me their God happens to be more powerful than the one I am currently worshipping.

So travelling to Raiwind or BD makes a person a terrorist? Probably if you read my post about the message that they give to people, you might realize that they are not terrorists.

Proudpakistani does make a very good point. A few years ago, the Tableeghi Jamaat held this same gathering in Northern Pakistan, and again is went of without so much as a threat of violence.

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So travelling to Raiwind or BD makes a person a terrorist? Probably if you read my post about the message that they give to people, you might realize that they are not terrorists.
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PP I didn't say terrorist. You did. Freudian slip perhaps....