Muslims did not evolve from apes.

[_Lahore_Ka_Cheetah]

Re: Muslims did not evolve from apes.

@psyah

The problem with evolution is not necessarily in the various theories that it invokes. There are two main criticisms for evolution, these are, the manner in which people who support evolution connect the theories of life sciences and in speciation.

The manner in which people support evolution is the fault of the people not of the theory. I don’t judge Islamic scripture based on how people follow it. Flawed logic.

@psyah

Peace LKC

The haram thing is the drink that will intoxicate you … The label of alcohol or the active ingredient in an alcoholic beverage and any other chemical is consequential.

Regarding the prohibition of alcohol as you say – again it is not “alcohol” expressly that is forbidden – **they will say **fruit juice is permissible while it may contain trace alcohol to prove my point. When the scholars do say “alcohol” they use that phrase in the common usage of the term not in the scientific group name of all chemicals that contain hydroxyl groups (C-OH bond). In common usage alcohol is equivalent to ethanol and some other active ingredients. You mention that “nobody consumes these” regarding other chemicals in the “alcohol” class.

The fact is that it you who are unaware of how the scholars make their rulings a**nd not the scholars who allegedly see **anything that says alcohol and rule it out. Whether certain chemicals are commonly consumed or not they can and are still given halal or haram tags and the reason for it is behind the intoxicating affects and when they say haram – they mean it by saying very clearly “haram to consume” the basis of the ruling is that is harms the intellect and health and hence haram. Now, there is another ruling regarding wine which is that it is najis. This is because the fermenting agent is still present in the drink. This type of substance is both haram to consume and haram to apply on skin and should it fall on clothes they would be rendered unclean to perform certain acts that require ritual purity such as prayer. This had led to a difference of opinion regarding “alcohol” one school – the Hanafi school do not make pure alcohol haram to use in perfumes because it is unlike wine and they also do not render it impermissible to use pure alcohol as an ingredient in medicine – but they have a caveat that it should only be used when or if other treatments are not available.

You go to very deep lengths to defend the common scholars with elaborations they themselves fail to provide. Most Islamic scholars don’t know the difference between ethanol and sorbitol (both are alcohols). Only a very few scholars I’ve come across who are actually educated enough to make this distinction, and they put it out clearly. The average scholar will say “don’t wear perfume that has alcohol”, not even knowing the alcohol in the perfume isn’t the one found in beverages. You can pretend to defend them by saying what they haven’t said themselves but that makes no difference.

@psyah

The verse is saying that we were made from a single human being how does evolution comply with that?

I see no qualm. The evolutionary theory suggests evolution from common ancestors; in the case of the human evolution, the theory is completely inline with the Islamic scripture that states that all humans descended from Adam (the common ancestor).
What’s the problem?