Re: Muslims a low maintenance culture ?
I think if you are stating it as a fact then you must have some sort of proof to back it up?
I’m not for stereotyping certain people in communities. I see more cases of caucasians involved in drunk driving.
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Not really related to the discussion but it seems it helps with infant mortality rates, in India at least.
http://www.princeton.edu/rpds/seminars/Spears043014.pdf
“…In India, Muslim children are substantially more likely than Hindu children to survive to their fifth birthday, despite Muslim parents being poorer and less educated on average than Hindu parents… We show that differences in these sanitation behaviors can account for the entire mortality gap between Hindus and Muslims…”
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"
Studies have noted that Punjabi Sikh men, in particular, are at higher risk of alcohol abuse
than any other South Asian group.49
While women are not expected to drink at all, they “are vulnerable to depression because of
their social isolation, loss of extended family support, racism, alienation, and domestic
violence. This means they are at risk of being overprescribed antidepressants” (Vittala &
Poole, 2004, p. 32).
A counsellor in Abbotsford noted that
an overwhelming majority of
female South Asian women she saw for counselling were taking medications such as antidepressants, pain killers and muscle relaxants.
**Singh and Tatla (2006) indicate alcohol misuse has
“always been very high among Sikhs, with the per capita rate among Sikhs of Punjab among
the highest in the world” (p. 177). **Sandhu (2009) suggests some overuse among immigrant
Punjabi men may be as a result of acculturative stress, specifically but not limited to the transition arising from “a collective traditional society to an individualistic
modern [one]” (p.27).50
Women who are second generation
members of South Asian communities may use alcohol and/or dugs to cope with the stress
of having to contend with norms and traditions of their family that may be different than
those outside the family, though they may do it secretively.
"
(from canada leading public safety educator)
I am sorry but your assumption/fact are so absurd and against my observation that I can not take in account what you said about muslim families. I am not saying they are model citizens, I am saying your information is not correct.
Re: Muslims a low maintenance culture ?
Very informative. Thanks.
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but caused Govt to spend money 
Re: Muslims a low maintenance culture ?
Which assumption or fact is absurd? Sardars (I think you mean Sikhs?) don’t even make up 2% in the West - in Canada or in USA (you never said Sikhs which also don’t make up that much - less than 2%) so how are you stating that their drinking levels are that high? Even Aboriginals have them beat in terms of that.
Also the facts you have given me do not link Sardars/Sikhs to drunk driving or gundagardy at all. It only states they are at higher risk but it doesn’t state they are the ones perpetrating these incidents. That’s what you accused them of right?
Look up your facts once again - I was comparing them to the WEST - that’s what you asked no? Also in your original post you specifically said “sardars” and then stated that they are involved in more gundagardy (what do you classify as gundagardy?) and drunk driving incidents, however if you go onto Stats Canada you can see for yourself that South Asians fall under less than 1% in terms of drunk driving cases. The vast majority is Caucasians in both US and Canada.
Also if you want to include South Asian women into this - that’s not a religion at all. South Asia is vast with a wide variety of religions and even those affiliated with no religion at all. That’s doesn’t prove anything really is your basis is a comparison.
If me pointing out some criticisms in our own community makes me a bad Muslim or makes me against Muslim families then we really have a long way to go. You never mentioned “sikhs” - you said sardars, there is a difference. Don’t target a specific community and if we don’t like being labelled in any way, we need to stop doing it to others. I spoke about our own community because it affects us - I want our image to be positive and education is important and something which we need to improve. That’s all I stated and I don’t know how you saw that as being against Muslim families when I am Muslim myself ? I just don’t need to use another community in the process to better my own.
Here are the sources:
Driving under the influence (DUI) among U.S… [Accid Anal Prev. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI = USA
Arrests for Driving Under the Influence among Adult Drivers
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That being out of the way.
So my assumption is correct so far. So I can make next assumption.
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^ Did you not read the previous post. Your assumptions were challenged. With references.
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she did not.
I did word search on the document I mentioned. Its only about sikhs.
Of course, its not a persecution document in a court, so they dont say word before starting ever sentence.
So my assumption is so far unchallenged in essence.
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Now that you put it that way, let me join the bandwagon.
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I got my answer.
I am thinking if I should start fireworks now in the thread. 
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Timely fireworks in threads are rejuvenating.
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ok:
I was wondering why its emphasised that minorities pay taxes.
(Muslims pay zakat.)
I leave now.
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Nice fireworks. Good timing. Great technique. And the leaving now part - priceless. 10s all around.
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Looks like the hat finally got unstuck.