coz men control our society ...and specially in religions like islam...they get more respect and women are always told to give them more respect+do whtever they want u to do+ u dont have anything to say infront of them...so this makes obvious that they are allowed to do anything but women arnt!
uh yes, you did.
'Some' being the key word here. Stop generalizing!
I agree with spock, stop generalizing. I personally know many desi with gora spouses and all those gora's are beautiful people from both inside and outside.
sorry if I offended anyone, I wasnt generalizing btw I did say "some" and "usually" if you read my statement properly, it was only a funny observation that's all, must you people be so politically correct?! I don't think all goreh look like the way I described, just check out jemima khan... didn't she look so pretty in shalwar kameez and dupatta when she was with imran, mnn she is one classy lady...
The reference from Quran in your post states, "IDOLATERS" should not be accepted in marriage by muslim women. It does not say NON-MUSLIMS. Are you the one who was suggesting that a muslim women marrying NON-MUSLIMS is same as comitting ZINA? And you said that was said by "ALL SCHOOL OF THOUGHTS"?? How irresposible is that on your part to misinform people?
Even Christian and Jew men not considered MUSLIMS but still muslim women are ALLOWED to marry them and make families. So putting IDOLATERS, Christians and Jews in the same catagory is highly MORONIC to be polite.
I know one case where a muslim man is married to a christian lady. They have two girls who are following christian faith because naturally kids are spiritually and emotionally closer to their mothers. Another case where a muslim lady married a christian man, their son is a muslim. That reaffirms the fact that kids are spiritually and emotionally closer to their mothers. Unless the father has a very dominating or strong personality and wants his kids to follow what he wants them to, the chance is the kids are going to follow their mother's religion.
So that even proves those mullahs wrong who claim that muslim women (being weaker sex) cannot have their children follow her faith if married to a non-muslim. Based on this, they declare muslim womens' marriage with non-muslims as a SIN or ZINA. These thoughts are of none other than our truly blessed with brains mullahs.
*Do not marry [your daughters] to *idolaters until they believer in Islam. A believering slave is better than a [free] idolater, though the latter please you. These call you to the Fire, but Allah calls you, by His will, to the Garden and to forgiveness. He makes plain His revelations to mankind, that perhaps they will think'' (Qur'an, 2:221) **
A female Muslim is not permissible for a disbeliever ---this is incontrovertible and certain !!!
on your topic .. Inno bahi ... i know couple of ladies .. born in muslim families .. now living with hindu guys ..
Right. So Muslim men can marry them but Muslim women can't marry them. Besides believing in Allah, there are other things that you have to keep in mind. As I posted the link where they said that a man has authority over his wife, if a non Muslim has a Muslim wife, what if he asks her to drink wine and have anal sex with him? If she agrees, she is committing major sins. If she refuses, do you think that the relationship will work? This is just ONE example, which is not the best example, but there are many other things that non-Muslims do and Muslims do not. My point is that just because someone believes in God, that does not mean you can go marry them. Same goes for men. They should marry outside of religion only when it is absolutely necessary.
I just don't understand why everyone is trying to put a question mark where a period has been put long time ago. Yes we should seek knowledge but there are some things that we should not questions. i.e. Why should we pray? Because Allah commanded us to do so.
Ver nice explanation.
There are other easier ways where so called Muslim women can get married to non Muslims after knwing the facts. It is called converting to a religion of this man. Instead of "process Improvement" in Islam people should join groups that best fits their life style. No questions will be asked and our feelings won't be hurt. If someone wants to give up their akhira for a so called "love" then you can only feel sorry for such a person.
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The reference from Quran in your post states, "IDOLATERS" should not be accepted in marriage by muslim women. It does not say NON-MUSLIMS. Are you the one who was suggesting that a muslim women marrying NON-MUSLIMS is same as comitting ZINA? And you said that was said by "ALL SCHOOL OF THOUGHTS"?? How irresposible is that on your part to misinform people?
Even Christian and Jew men not considered MUSLIMS but still muslim women are ALLOWED to marry them and make families. So putting IDOLATERS, Christians and Jews in the same catagory is highly MORONIC to be polite.
I know one case where a muslim man is married to a christian lady. They have two girls who are following christian faith because naturally kids are spiritually and emotionally closer to their mothers. Another case where a muslim lady married a christian man, their son is a muslim. That reaffirms the fact that kids are spiritually and emotionally closer to their mothers. Unless the father has a very dominating or strong personality and wants his kids to follow what he wants them to, the chance is the kids are going to follow their mother's religion.
So that even proves those mullahs wrong who claim that muslim women (being weaker sex) cannot have their children follow her faith if married to a non-muslim. Based on this, they declare muslim womens' marriage with non-muslims as a SIN or ZINA. These thoughts are of none other than our truly blessed with brains mullahs.
"All jurists agreed that a Muslim man or woman may not marry a mushrik [one who associates partners with God--there is a complex and multi-layered discourse on who is to be considered a mushrik, but we will leave this for a separate discussion]. However, because of al-Ma'ida verse 5, there is an exception in the case of a Muslim man marrying a kitabiyya. There is no express prohibition in the Qur'an or elsewhere about a Muslim woman marrying a kitabi. However, the jurists argued that since express permission was given to men, by implication women must be prohibited from doing the same. The argument goes: If men needed to be given express permission to marry a kitabiyya, women needed to be given express permission as well, but since they were not given any such permission then they must be barred from marrying a kitabi. Every place where Allah mentions rules or reward He mentions women and men (Moumin and mouminate) except here. In this case only men.
The justification for this rule was two-fold: 1) Technically, children are given the religion of their father, and so legally speaking, the offspring of a union between a Muslim male and a kitabiyya would still be Muslim; 2)It was argued that Muslim men are Islamically prohibited from forcing their wives to become Muslim. Religious coercion is prohibited in Islam. However, in Christianity and Judaism a similar prohibition against coercion does not exist. According to their own religious law, Muslim jurists argued, Christian men may force their Muslim wives to convert to their (the husbands') religion. Put differently, it was argued, Islam recognizes Christianity and Judaism as valid religions, but Judaism and Christianity do not recognize the validity of Islam as a religion. Since it was assumed that the man is the stronger party in a marriage, it was argued that Christian and Jewish men will be able to compel their Muslim wives to abandon Islam. (If a Muslim man would do the same, he would be violating Islamic law and committing a grave sin).
Importantly, the Hanafi, Maliki, and Shafi'i jurists held that it is reprehensible (makruh) for Muslim men to marry a kitabiyya if they live in non-Muslim countries. They argued that in non-Muslim countries, mothers will be able to influence the children the most. Therefore, there is a high likelihood that the children will not grow up to be good Muslims unless both parents are Muslim. Some jurists even went as far as saying that Muslim men are prohibited from marrying a kitabiyya if they live in non-Muslim countries. so, in short it is not all legal for Muslim men either."
We, as Muslim do not recognize race or color as valid argument.s A gora or chapta or whatever is as Muslim as anyone who was born desi or Arab Muslim. If he is a practicing Muslim then is 100 time better than a non practicing born Muslim. Any women marrying such a man will be a lucky one.
My 2 cents…