MUSLIM UNITY SHIA-SUNNI UNITY Misconception

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The poster of this thread and poster’s fellows in this thread are simply fooling others and deceiving their ownselves.
If it was so simple then shias and sunnis wouldn’t have been killing each other for centuries.
Shias betrayal of the Khilafat of Banu 'Abbas and inviting Halaku Khan to Baghdad, their conspiracy against Ottoman Empire to assist Christians, betraying Tipu Sultan and Nawab Sirajud Daulah and in the present time Iran’s coalition with Russia and India against Talibans and assisting Americans in their attacking them, Shias supporting occupying forces in Iraq strategically and politically, all are undeniable and solid proofs that there is something between Sunnis and Shias which make them disunite with each other and that is their Long Ago Religious Rivalry and their Different Fundamental Beliefs on whose basis Imam Abu Hanifah, Imam Shafi’i, Imam Malik, their followers including Deobandis, Barelvis, Wahabis / Salafis regard shias (12ers) out of the fold of Islam.

But if you insist upon fooling yourself then here is something for you to open your eyes:

According to Imam Shaf’i:

I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Raafidi, and on another occasion he said; "Narrate knowledge from everyone you meet except for the Raafidi shia, because they invent ahaadeeth and adopt them as part of their religion.”

(Minhaj as-Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah)

According to Imam Abu Hanifah:

Whoever doubts whether they are disbelievers has himself committed disbelief.”

Imam Malik said about Rafidha shias:

Do not speak to them or narrate from them, for surely they are liars.”

During one of Imam Malik’s classes, it was mentioned that the raafidi Shia curse the sahaba. Imam Malik recited the verse, “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are harsh with the disbelievers and gentle among themselves. So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them.” (48:29) He then said, “Whoever becomes enraged when the Sahâbah are mentioned is the one about whom the verse speaks.”

(Tafseer al-Qurtubi)

According to Abu Zar’ah ar Razi of the Rafidi’s doctrine of cursing Sahabah:

If you see someone degrade any of the companions of the Prophet SAWS know that he is a disbeliever. Because the Prophet SAWS was real, what he brought was the truth and all of it was conveyed to us by way of the Sahâbah. What those disbelievers wish to do is cast doubt on the reliability of our narrators in order to invalidate the Qur’an and Sunnah. Thus the disbelievers are the ones most deserving of defamation.”

Even the people of Barelvi group (Ahmed Raza Khan) regard shias out of the fold of Islam, e.g read the following from Imam Ahmed Raza Academy, South Africa; Read this and have some shame:

INTRODUCTION

The Sunni Muslims of today have become targets of Iranian propaganda. By reading through Shia literature, they conclude that Khomeini was the great modern day Islamic leader who despised the separation of the Sunnis and Shias within the Islamic Community. They also believe that Khomeini preferred a total Islamic Unity of both Sunnis and Shias and that Khomeini respected the Great Prophet of Islam (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), the Khulafa-e-Rashideen and all the Sahaba (radi Allahu anhu anhum ajma’in). They are also under the impression that Khomeini labelled as “Shaitaan” those who spoke of a separate Shia and Sunni group within the Muslim Community.

Details: http://www.raza.co.za/Deviant%20Sec…a%20Beliefs.htm

One more evidence from moderate Sufis’ source:

http://www.ahya.org/amm/modules.php…ticle&artid=234

Re: MUSLIM UNITY SHIA-SUNNI UNITY Misconception

As salamunalikum

you said so much from the eyes of Mullah now obey Allah. why we never think what Allah said how to treat others. if other commit sin they are answerable to Allah for their acts and belief. why we target eachother? Because some of us running behind money sold their imaan and started to act like ibne muljim who killed hazrath Ali(a.s), His name was Abdur Rahman Muljim but he was not a muslim is a known fact.

Allah…
“He is the Creator, the Omniscient, the All-hearing , the All-seeing, the All-guiding, the Supporter, the Forbearer, the Amiable, the Always-forgiving, the Self-sufficient…
a God who knows our most secret thoughts, Listens to the prayers of all His servants, grants each and everyone his due; a God who is nearer and more gracious to us than any other being.”

And verily this Brotherhood of yours is a single Brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore fear Me (and no other).
But people have cut off their affair (of unity), between them, into sects: each party rejoices in that which is with itself. 23:52:53

There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction stands out clearly from error. Whoever rejects false dei- ties and believes in Allah has grasped a firm handhold that never breaks, and Allah hears and knows all things." Chapter 2:256

Concentrate more of orders of Allah not allegations made by MULLA,
wassalam

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If your Mullas have written books full of Kufr and Fisq, then we have the right to examine your beliefs and views which claim that shi'ism is an Anti Islamic Movement whose only objective is to disunite Muslim Ummah and inhibitting all efforts to establish shari'ah in Muslim societies e.g in Pakistan the biggest obstacle in Islamisation are shias.

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why would you worry about muslim ummah?

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Brother i am talking about ALLAH and you are about Mulla. Forget about my or your mullah and Obey Allah then only you will be able to teach other. Do not forget Judge is Allah not Mulla.

And verily this Brotherhood of yours is a single Brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore fear Me (and no other).
But people have cut off their affair (of unity), between them, into sects: each party rejoices in that which is with itself. 23:52:53

wassalam

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I agree with Debater, things are not as simple as the thread starter has attempted to show. I am all for unity among Muslims, but not at the sake of accepting fitnas and corruption in the religion.

Re: MUSLIM UNITY SHIA-SUNNI UNITY Misconception

A thread calling for Muslim unity is almost 100% guaranteed to end in disunity and disagreement.

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End is disunity because there are some people whio are not ready to obey Quran. They act very differently and moreintrested in makin allegation on others, they always think what deobandi said what shia said what other sect of muslim say but never think what Allah instructed? How to handle differences and unite muslims.

And verily this Brotherhood of yours is a single Brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore fear Me (and no other).
BUT WE MADE SO MANY LORDS(MULLA) But i am satisfied with the result as you can see literate muslims welcome UNITY AMONG MUSLIM by respecting others faith.
* Repeat *Professor Seyyed Hossein Nasr wrote to me "to ignore and not waste time
in responding to such wrong allegations." **He also mentioned that "a
great deal of money and effort is being spent in the last few years to
fan the fire of hatred between Shia and Sunni in the Persian Gulf
**region with obvious political and economical fruits for powers to-be."
However, in the interest of Islamic unity, I must deal with the
questions rather than shun them. Please note that Imam Jafar (peace be
upon him), founder of the Shia school of law, was the teacher of Imam
Abu-Hanifa (peace be upon him).

wassalam

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Salamun alikum,

I think right place of this message is here so you all can se true face of those who are speaking aginst islamic unity and more intrested in our differences. If they act aginst Quran they are ignorant and if you think they are following the instruction of ALLAH FOLLOW THEM.

Islam is a religion of peace, love and compassion. Lies, unjustified suspicion, backbiting, slander and gossips are totally alien to Islam. In fact they are considered amongst the most destructive of major sins.

This is so because these sins sow enmity and discord among the Muslim community (Ummah) and lead to its destruction. They cause hostilities between people of the same household, and between neighbors, friends and relatives.

Islam states that our relationship with mankind should be one of sincerity and responsibility. It should be one where we have respect for the honor, reputation and privacy of others. This beautifull relgion teaches us that we are not only held accountable for our own attitudes and actions but also for anything else over which we have control or influence over, in our society or the world around us.

Those who worship Allah should care for each other in every way; the Muslim community should sustain best moral values of the faith: Mercy, compassion, fear of Allah, piety, and justice.

Allah ordered Muslims to defend, help and stand by each other,

"strong against unbelievers but compassionate amongst each other"[Qur’an 48:29].

A Muslim is required to defend his brother when someone talks about him behind his back. In Islam, Muslims should not do injustice to others nor do they tolerate any injustice to themselves.In their love and concern for each other, all Muslims are like one body, as Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:

“when any part of the body suffers, the whole body feels the pain”.(Sahih Muslim)

Allah has promised for the one who defends his absent brother with a great reward and promised to protect him from the fire.

Abu Ad-Darda narrated that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:

"The one who rebuts another from backbiting has protected himself from the fire."

Defending (Rebutting) backbiting is a characteristic of a believer. Allah says in the holy Qur’an:

(And when they hear Al-Laghw (dirty, false, evil vain talk), they withdraw from it and say: "To us our deeds, and to you your deeds. Peace be to you. We seek not the ignorant.)(28:55)

The believer knows that the devil wants to destroy him because he rejects backbiting by rebutting it. If he cannot change the topic of conversation he should dislike it in his heart and leave the gathering, remembering Allah's saying:

(...And if Shaitan(evel) causes you to forget, then after the remembrance sit not you in the company of those people who are the Zalimun (unfair, wrong-doers,etc..)(6:68)

Also, Prophet Muhammad advised Muslims to love each other, he said:

"...no one believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself."(Muslim)

Islam teaches us that if people are being ridiculed or backbitted in our presence, we should defend their honor. If we neglect this, we shall deprive ourselves of ever needed help and mercy from God. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:

“If a man's Muslim brother is slandered in your presence, and you are capable of defending him and you do so, God will defend you in this world and in the next. But if he fails to defend him, God will destroy him in this world and the next.”
wassalam