Muslim Pharmacist Refused To Give Pill Because "It Was Against His Religious Beliefs"

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PyariCgudia nay farmaya

*Mr. Fraudia, he also does not have a right to use his opinion to represent all the other muslims in the world. *

sure, and i doubt he is trying to represent all muslims any more than the christian pharmacists who refuse to prescribe this are representing all christians. There is enough variance among christians and among muslims that one person saying by his religious beliefs..does not mean it is the religious belief of all followers of that faith.

*Islamic theology says that life doesn't start at conception, and I believe there is a set number of days written in the Quran or possibly a description in a hadith that solidifies that. Apparently, I'm hearing of some scholars going so far as to say that if its done in the first trimester, for various reasons, its okay (although that doesn't sound). *

At the same time there are also parts of theology and the opinion held by scholasr that unless the mother's life is threatened no sort of abortion is allowed at any point in time, and especially after the first trimester it is equivalent to murder. If you are going to use the theology and scholars views, you may want to do further reading and see that there is variance there and he may be following a different interpretation.

*I don't think any muslim has the right to sit there and say that something is against Islam, when its not. *

Its his religious belief, which may be different than your religious belief, and there is enough evidence to suggest that there is logical basis for him to say that the way he sees his faith, it is not allowed.

** He makes muslims look bad. Finito. **

To those who are pro-choice for those who are pro-life he probably made muslims look good..

** And I agree - he needs to transplant himself somewhere where the state law coincides with his PERSONAL beliefs, and he needs to quit allying those beliefs with Islam. What a jerk.**

state law allows him to say 'no' based on his PERSONAL beliefs. I think you missed that :)

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Yeah, I missed that the state law allows him to refuse to sell the pill. But then why is anyone complaining in the first place?

Secondly, the morning after pill is just as it sounds. You take it immediately after intercourse (non-consentual vs. consentual). I opened a topic on keeping babies after a rape in Life1, and I'm amazed how there EVERYONE almost unanimously agrees that they would abort the baby immediately after the rape. How is that any different than this situation? We don't know why the female came in to ask for a morning after pill. Maybe she was raped, or in some unfortunate circumstance?

Definitely, Islam is pro-stem cell research, and the basis is that life doesn't begin until some days after conception. This drastically differs from Christian view. How this is not common knowledge, I dont understand. I am not advocating first trimester or any abortions after that point. But I believe the Quran talks about 40 days (maybe its a Hadith, I can't be positive and do correct me on the number of days if its not 40). I've looked up the topic before, and that's what I found.

I am just surprised at the polar differences in replies here vs. the one replies in the thread on keeping the baby in Life1.

Furthermore, this raises other questions. Should this pharmacist be selling contraceptives or be in a store selling contraceptives? Shoul the pharmacist be selling morphine? That can be abused if it gets into the wrong hands. In fact, almost every drug the pharmacist is selling can be abused. So why is he selling such haraam-risk materials in the first place?

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since when is after morning/emergency contraception considered the same thing as abortion? :smack:

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PCG at the end of the day the dude can be completely off in his interpretation of religion and his persona beliefs as they relate to religion, but as long as he uses it as a basis he can refuse to give a prescrption. he is well within his rights, and you can question why is he selling contraceptives and what nots, but you are not him. An avg joe can question you based on theirevidence and say well if you do this why dont you also do such and such.

oh and btw...in cases of rape when the victim goes to the hospital, they give the morning after pill right there and then, they dont hand teh victim a prescription to go and find it from some pharmacy. and yes she could have not gone to the hospital but gone to the GP and just asked him for morning after pill w/o telling him it was a rape because if she tells him he is required to tell the cops. What you also dont know is if the prescription was dated from a week ago, which would mean that this is not due to some rape ttype thing that happened the day before, but that she has a prescription ready just in case she has unprotected sex over her weekend trip to blackpool or something.

anyhoo... she has a right to get the medication which is legal in UK, and he has a right to not sell it.

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What does abortion do and what does morning after pill do?
The only difference is that in one u kno for sure ur pregnant.

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former terminates a pregnancy and the latter does not allow fertilization. In my view a huge difference.

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I always thought contraception was OK in Islam, as long as both partners agreed.

Can anyone quote the Quran where it says contraception is not allowed?

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^ incorrect argument. while contraception may be allowed (among married couples), his view may be different, and incorrect from our perspective from a religious angle, but to him they are correct.

So he may be wrong in his religious belief, sure, but even if he is wrong in how he thinks it is, it still gives him a right to refuse based on his own religious beliefs.

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what is morning after pill :hmmm:

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So you think he's refusing it because he believes its wrong to take contraceptives in the first place?

Like I said, if the morning pill is basically a contraceptive, then how is that any different from selling condoms or other products that act as contraceptives?

I'm not sure about this, because I dont take this stuff yet, but don't you go to a pharmacy to get birth control pills?

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:confused:

If you’re responding to me, i made no comment regarding his right to refuse. As long as his profession allows, which in this case it does, he can do whatever he wants.

I merely wanted a clarification as to whether contraception was ok according to Islam.

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sorry mixed signals.
and yes from what I know islam does allow for contraception.

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he should have given it, its a multiculti society. plus allows the mainstream to find atleast one news story of their own!

what would you do
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he should have, I think it was wrog of him to not fill the prescription, and I would hate it if I go for some prescription and the pharmacist refuses to fill it. But he has rights to do so, so whether or not I like it, he has a right.

Its like when the whole prophet cartoon thing came to be, or other assorted stuff, or stupid exhibits which had statue of virgin mar made of animal feces, I despise that stuff...but ppl doing that have a right to do so under law. they are practising their rights..

one can try to lobby and say that this s not right or boundaries need to be set, but I think that would be a very tough solution to implement..

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The role of the pharmacist is to give the medicines prescribed by the doctors or if they are non-prescribed then the ones demanded by the patient. If they think that they cannot do this they should not become pharmacist.

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^ you may want to wrte to royal society of pharmacists and ask them to change their code of conduct.

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not trying to argue , but ISLAM allows temporary contraception and permanent ones are not allowed. E.g external contraceptives etc. But I think the pill is considered permanent. Quite a sensitive subject..

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this is not "the pill" that we are talking about.
and what external contraceptives are permament? are you washing and reusing some trojan you bought in 2001?

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The big deal here is that THE PHARMACIST WAS MUSLIM. This gives a whole new twist to the already inflamed and biased propaganda against muslims. He is supposed to follow the state law and if that law is against his personal beliefs, he should find another job. Dont open a new can of worms everyday now.

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Can that be done MR. Fraudia? Lolzzzzz