Muslim Minorities

“There is no Palestinian people.”
Former Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir

“There are no Bosnians per se.”
Former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

“Every civil building connected with Mahommedan tradition should be levelled to the ground without regard to antiquarian veneration or artistic predilection.”
British Prime Minister Palmerston’s Letter No. 9 dated 9 October 1857,to Lord Canning, Viceroy of India, Canning Papers.

“Our approach must be careful and dexterous. Our programme should be anti-religious propaganda, not anti-religious struggle. We should knock from the hands of enemies the weapon they [Muslims] use.” - Stalin, May 16, 1918.

“The practice of dominant Russia, inside the Soviet Union led to tragic consequences for non-Russian people. Some of them which once, i.e., prior to their enslavement by Tsarist generals, not only constituted one whole as a people but were also independent as states, have today been completely eradicated from the face of the earth and in most inhuman way which could be envied by Hitler himself.” - Tito at the 8th Congress of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia, 1952.

“We have the right to demand anything we like from the world. As Jews we do not owe anything to anybody, while the rest of the world owes us a great deal.”
Ariel Sharon at a speech to foreign Jewish delegates at a meeting at Gush Etzion.

“To maintain the status quo will not do. We have set up a dynamic state, bent upon creation and reform, building and expansion.” Ben-Gurion in Rebirth and Destiny of Israel, 1954.

“Phrases such as “Muslim militant” and “Islamic terrorist” appear so often in the U.S. media it is as if word processors were programmed to produce only such pairs. Muslims, now numbering about one billion, are aware of the stereotype. Do these Muslims tend to see a duplicity in U.S. Middle East policy? Do they perceive that the U.S. and Europe make the same stereotypical judgment for all Muslims, all over the world? If they are not seeing Muslims as authentic human beings, will they deem them expendable. Is this why, they ask, the Americans and the West can so easily turn a blind eye to a genocide of Muslims in Europe?” (1994)
Grace Halsell, former speech writer for U.S. President Johnson.

“I hope that in the next century we will come to terms with our abysmal ignorance of the Muslim world. Muslims aren’t a bunch of wackos and nuts. They are decent, brilliant, talented people with a great civilization and traditions of their own, including legal traditions. Americans know nothing about them. There are people in that part of the world with whom we are simply out of touch. That’s a great challenge for the next century.”
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, December 1999.

“Islam is the best chance the poor of the planet have for any hope of decency in their lives. It is the one revolutionary force that cares about humanity.” [1998]
Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark.


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All your references to Stalin and Communism are just a generalization.

Communism is a economic platform of Atheism, in which we reject the idea of god, superstitution and 'supernatural' powers, when we know as a society we must strive and live together without poisoning our mind of ridiculous things that make us slow our life down. What Stalin and many other communistic, socalistic leaders is their view on almost any religion and not targeted directly at Islam. If you asked Stalin the same thing, if he agrees this should be done to Christianity, he will say most definitely.

Arai

I have been, it seems like, black listed by the tableeghi jamaats. Everytime they have visited me, I have ask them that short of them trying me to come to the masjid what are they doing for the community? What audacity they show in relating in every paygham that "whenever the Prophet (sws) went to other communities he (sws) worked for them..." This riles me up. I have to challange them on this and ask whether we, after 1400 years, are not allowed to do the same? Why is it that the jamaats can not spend a few hours a MONTH for community service? Why is it that instead of giving the Juma khutba attacking other muslims beliefs, khutbas could not be given that tell people how to behave? Why do people have to talk inside the masjid? Why do people have to smoke outside the masjid? Why do people don't care about throwing the smallest of the trash in a trash-bin? Why not teach the people the concept of hygiene?

Why is it that Muslims, in general, are not politically active in any sphere, even political or social, in their communities, cities, states, or countries in the West? (I know the reasons of the old-world.) The West is giving is us just the platform to come forward on to and show the world the real meaning behind the word Muslim.

I don't blame the West in behaving that way they do towards the Muslims. They only behave towards us according to the knowledge they have. How much of that knowledge, in general, is or can be attributes to Muslim efforts? I just find it utterly unbelievable that there is absolutel no concept of public relations. Islam, whereas, shows how to behave, walk, act to show and interact with other to show your faith so that they will, at the least, think about what you said or did. When was the last time anyone here remembered their last masjid hold an open house for the public? What roles do the masjid play in the communal affairs where you and I live? What is the role of the Imam? He is the communal leader of the Muslims, but..... I don't hate the Christians and Jews for acting as they do towards the Muslims. They are only acting as we let them. Is the answer to pickup the guns and knives in every situation? Islam dictates that informative discussions be held with the non-belivers. Fighting a Jihad is a last rsort but by an Islamic nation and army (I am hinting to the current jihads underway in the world). A priest can argue with a Muslim just from the Quran. How many Muslims can aruge from the Bible. We are show so many disparaties in the Quran? How many Muslims can return the favor?

I am sorry for carrying on. Yes, this is my pet peeve with my friends and visiting tablighi jamaat. My point is that the west only sees us protesting. There are countless other ways we can show them what Islam is and how it governs our lives. Why not start by telling your non-muslim friends what Islam really says about terrorism, homosexual relations, crime, taking care of the poor, women's issues, freedom of speech, the issues of privacy, etc. etc. etc.

I firmly believe that the change will be brought on by those born in the West. Those of us who migrated to the West are just too traditional and that is really hurting all of us.

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Communism is a economic platform of Atheism, in which we reject the idea of god, superstitution and 'supernatural' powers, /B]
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You are right....Communism was a struggle against capitalism. It rose to remove the divisions between the workers and the capitalists. The idea of communism was to remove all distinguishing differences. Religion just fell in that equation. Communism was a sword against anything that made any portion of the population standout on any basis. You will need to go back and read up on the Industrial Revolution to get a better understanding of how the societies were affected and why Karl Marx wrote his menifesto.

I have read the translation of Marx's manifesto from Germanic form. It's really more of a economic constitution, and workers right. That is the prime basis of communism, is the struggle against Capitalism, but communism is incomplete without Atheism, Secularism etc..

But, yes the Industrial revolution was the "biggest" renansaince in Communism, workers began to take control.

arai

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But, yes the Industrial revolution was the "biggest" renansaince in Communism, workers began to take control.
arai**
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Do you know the very first country which had implemented communism? Seriously, and I know what you are thinking. Bear with me.

Iran... a few centuries ago. There people, at the time, had full freedom to enjoy any property then wanted. I would someone versed in history to add more on this.