Muslim leaders condemn fake hostage video

Personally I think the muslim groups over-reacted.

Muslim leaders condemn CW Post video

A video by five students at the C.W. Post Campus of Long Island University depicting ski-masked “hostage-takers” speaking in cartoonish Middle Eastern accents has drawn condemnations from local Muslim leaders.

The university dismissed the students from their jobs as residence hall assistants in Brookville Hall, saying they had engaged in activity that violated their employment contract and that reflected “insensitivity.”

In the video, which mocks those aired by real-life terrorists, five figures speak in exaggerated accents as they threaten their captive, a rubber duck dubbed “Pete,” according to an account in the student newspaper that knowledgeable campus sources agreed was accurate. The subtext is understood to many on campus: The duck is the mascot for Brookville Hall.

While friends of those who created the film amphasized it was made in jest, Muslim leaders did not see the humor. They acknowledged students’ right to freedom of speech, but said that right carries responsibility.

“I think it’s not a prank,” said Ghazi Khankan of Long Beach, a member of the board of the American Muslim Alliance, which he described as a regional and national group that advocates for Muslim participation in the political process. “Campuses are for enlightenment and for teaching us to get along, to respect each other, to know how to live together.”

News of the video quickly went national. The Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Muslim civil liberties and advocacy group based in Washington, D.C., sent out Newsday’s Web article about the incident in an e-mail blast. Said Ibrahim Hooper, council president: “It’s something that needs to be addressed.”

Habeeb Ahmed, president of the Islamic Center of Long Island in Westbury, who said he was a C.W. Post alumnus, agreed. “People are testing the waters again and again, and the Muslim community is always at the receiving end.”

Back on campus, provost Joseph Shenker, said the five students involved would continue to receive free housing and the meal plan – but in exchange for working 10 hours per week in community service.

Student employees must “function as role models and as teachers for the other students,” Shenker said yesterday. "We expect them to be instructing our students on being sensitive regarding all groups.

“I think the tape was an insult to the victims and families involved in hostage situations,” he added.

The college, which has about 8,500 undergraduate and graduate students, could not provide a breakdown of Muslim students on campus.

The video, which was posted on YouTube and Google – then taken down – came with a statement indicating that it was done “all purely as a joke of course.”

Meanwhile, the five students, all seniors – Robert Bennett, Bert Estrada, Dustin Frye, Jordan Marmara and Billy McDermott – are to face a formal campus hearing, either later this week or sometime next week, Shenker said. He declined to speculate on what disciplinary action could result.

The students have hired civil rights attorney Frederick K. Brewington of Hempstead, who said he felt the college’s actions were unfair.

The affair apparently also cost Brookville Hall’s residence hall director, Kristin Kielczewski, her job. She did not respond to a message seeking comment.

McDermott, 21, of Ocean City, Md., said yesterday that Brewington had advised him and the other fired student resident assistants not to comment beyond saying, “We’re getting our ducks in a row.”

Danny Schrafel, the Pioneer student newspaper editor-in-chief, said the administration’s actions have split the campus into two camps: People who believe the resident assistants were fired unjustly and those offended by the video.

Matthew Bartlett, 19, a freshman from Clifton N.J., who lives in Brookville Hall, called McDermott "a great guy.

“I’m pretty appalled by what they [the administrators] did because I don’t think it’s fair. It’s our right as students to express ourselves. We’re in college.”

Frank Schlegel, 21, of Westhampton Beach, a senior in marketing, said he has had all five of the students as an R.A. during his nearly four years in Brookville Hall.

“I thought it was hysterical,” said Schlegel, who said he had seen the video. “There’s no way it can be seen as these guys are being racist. It was strictly made for entertainment. They’re not troublemakers of any sort.”

Michael Colon, of Westchester, 19, a freshman biology major, said he started a petition supporting the R.A.s on Monday. So far, he said, he has 80 signatures.

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the attitude of the muslim leaders is truly pathetic. kids do all sorts of pranks on campuses and am sure it was only just that; something done out of naivety instead of provocation ..perhaps these so called leaders should stop being touchy about every lil incident...

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Meanwhile when a muslim screws us (happens quite frequently), they don't take out the time to admonish those people.

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ya these people need to get their priorities in order

condemning a bunch of slacker college kids for making a funny hostage video in which they are beheading a toy duck does more harm than good

all it shows that muslims dont have a sense of humor

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Funny…If a non-Muslim mocks Islam or Muslims, the Muslims are offended if any action is taken against them as is evident in the posts above…

However if a Muslim does such a similar prank, not only non-Muslims but Muslims themselves start condemning him…

The result of this Muslim’s prank is that he is currently in jail…The result of the non-Muslims’ pranks is that Muslims should not be offended no matter what…

I wonder how much is it possible to bend over without a spine?

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Lajjo I think there is a diference in the type of humour there. a different comparison may have illustrated your point better.

I do however think that actions against pranks and all need to be equitable and that humour should not be paraded as racism and racism as humour.

If there was some 'humorous' video mamde of our soldiers getting blown up, I bet that would not have been taken with open arms by public at large

I agree there is too much prejudiced crap out there hiding under the facade of humour. Idiots should know that we would take a stand and not just deal with that shyt, and there is not going to be an open season on us.

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^^

Can you tell me the difference? All I see is two examples of theatrics...

And by 'our' troops you mean American troops? As in you standing-up-for-national-anthem-support-our-troops-sticker-sticking-apple-pie-beer-drinking-pork-rib-drinking-red-white-and-blue-American?

HAH!

Do an experiment on how much of an American you are: Go down to Alton, Illinois, walk into any diner and say, 'Hi, I am a Muslim, can I use your restroom?'

'Our' people will show us how American you are...HAH!

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There have been instances of frat boys dressing up as KKK members and accosting Black students (their friends) as a prank; those "practical jokes" received a lot of criticism from left, right and center.

The actions of these kids show a lack of sensitivity towards Muslims, and really demonstrate a societal apathy to the acceptable racism against Muslims.

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No they are not. Adopting a "don't make noise" policy, especially in these times, would make things very difficult for Muslims in the west.

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ummm one could cause fear in people who see someone. a prank of a similar nature would be if you walkout of masjid after jummah and see a bunch of KKK folks wth machine guns standing there. only to find out that it was a bunch of isiots either with a piss poor sense of humour

so first of all by our troops I meant the troops who have recently been killed in Pakistan. I would not use the term ‘our’ when referring US troops during a discssion with you of all people. But then you dont really consider Pakistani troops as ‘our’ troops either

so then u make an assumption and then go off on a rant on how american or un american i would be considered. Since it was not relevant and was soley based on your own assumption, and just a bunch of crap, filler material there due to lack of an argument on the base topic, which btw if you bothered to read i was agreeing with you :p, Therefore…Its not really relevant or worthy of a response.

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This isnt the first video to go on the internet... Many many many people have done stuff like this. Muslim leaders need to watch more tv or go on the internet more often.

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^^ dont they have better things to do than surf the net and watch TV?

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merc, the fact is we do need something along the lines of the anti defmataion league.

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true

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This protest is an utter time waste.

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You would think so, and yet they were able to find this video on the net!

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^^ ya strange