Re: Muslim Behavior
Yes, indeed. What goes around, comes around, AQ. We should all be vigilant of our behaviors.
Subhanallah. Allah-hu Akbar. Ameen. May God have mercy on your soul.
Re: Muslim Behavior
PCG, it seems as though you're correct. There's more theory and very little application, if at all any.
AQ, my #2 basically meant 'we have the knowledge, but don't act upon it'.
Re: Muslim Behavior
because Muslims talk ABOUT others instead of talking WITH others
Re: Muslim Behavior
that is true. We all should be. If we fear ALLAH and have imaan in our hearts, we will never do what others do to hurt us. Allah says in Quran:
13:22 Those who patiently persevere, seeking the countenance of their Lord; Establish regular prayers; spend, out of We have bestowed for their sustenance, secretly and openly; and turn off Evil with good: for such there is the final attainment of the (eternal) home,-
So true Iman requires us to turn off others’ evil with good… and those who reply evil with evil are the companions of Satan.
may ALLAH :swt: give us strength in our faith to really know His words. Aameen
Re: Muslim Behavior
Shouldn’t the proper question be: what can we do to punish those who hurt others? Or to ease the suffering all around? You do understand the self-defeating nature of outlining a negative without any further elaboration on how to progress…
In any case, we hurt each other for the same reason other people hurt their own. Hey, vague questions get vague answers…
Re: Muslim Behavior
Sounds like a forced categorization. Islam identifies a set of ideals, and makes it a duty to follow them…beyond that, it’s up to us. From this point, I agree with you…there should be more discussion on the how’s, given that we’re more than familiar with the what’s…
Re: Muslim Behavior
Why you always attack muslims and Islam? What about Christianity? Hinduism? Judaism? I dont think all ather followers are pious and well mannered at all.
It happens when people became ignornat of their religion and start living just like animals whom dont have such laws which we have from Allah via Quran.
But if a muslim is a true follower of his/her religion, he must be the best amonst all people even comparing with non mulims.
Re: Muslim Behavior
PCG read quality stuff or news. TV is just TV. Is this an argument where you gave example of a movie? Please grow up. Will you?
Human traficking is very commonly seen in Mexico btw. people are killed in trucks without air holes to breath and just to get smuggled into U.S.
Other places are south east asia (non-muslims countries) where kids are forced to be the prostitutes and rich from whole world go for ‘fun’.
other places are many and wait, south american country such as peurto Rico is not a muslim country either.
Re: Muslim Behavior
I just gave you answer in my earlier post. You have too much time to spend on movies I guess. I think you beileve on all other anti-muslim and anti-islam movies too.
One has to read the religeon and learn before making assumptions. Lack of knowledge and clear, strong faith creats doubt even from a TV movie.
Re: Muslim Behavior
This post is only for the sunni muslims, so no need to flame.
Sadiyah, I disagree. Islam is perfect and provides both the theory (Qur’an) and the practice (Sunnah of our beloved Prophet (SAW)). There is a logical reason as to why the Qur’an was revealed over a period of 23 years. Our prophet was a living, breathing, walking example of perfection.
We deliberately choose to ignore the practice, since it is so difficult in today’s day and age–so we say.
I remember we took physics in college and learnt about maxwell’s equations. We had the theory and the lab manual instructions down pat, but when it came to down to applying the theory with magnetic fields and electric fields, CR oscilloscopes and knobs in a practical setting, we found it to be incredibly diffcult.
Re: Muslim Behavior
dope, I totally agree with you on Islam being the perfect religion and providing both theory and practice.
What I tried to get across was that sometimes our teachers and those whom we look up to don't do a good job at getting the application part across to us.
PCG gave a great example about how we're taught to be to charitable at Islamic school; however, getting the kids to do some sort of fundraising would be great a idea to teach the kids how to go about being charitable and less extravagant.
Re: Muslim Behavior
…yet, only NOW it has been proven true.
Re: Muslim Behavior
Are you trying to explain “Human behavior patterns and nature” in the context of Islam? Some characteristics are shared by humans of all backgrounds and religions. Why are you specifically trying to attribute them to Muslims and Islam?
I am confused?
Re: Muslim Behavior
You can't separate "Islam and Muslims" from "How Muslims Actually Behave".
Re: Muslim Behavior
deedawar:
I'm not bringing this whole topic up because I saw a movie. Nor is this about the movie. Nor can you assume that the movie is not an accurate reflection of what goes on in real life. The movie, if you read up on it, was modelled based on actual incidents that have happened.
Furthermore, what does that movie have to do with muslims? The topic of human trafficking is rampant in Pakistan, and also many Pacific rim countries that are muslim or heavily muslim populated (ex. Malaysia, Indonesia, Phillipines, etc). In fact, we're seeing people kidnap Earthquake victims for this purpose. Regardless of what non-muslims do, muslims are very much a part of various activities, human trafficking only being ONE example, where one muslim intentionally delivers hurt to another.
So the question is as stated: Why do muslims hurt one another?
You talk about religion, but these muslims are not ignorant of Islam and what is Islamically correct. Despite KNOWING what they should do, they don't do it. Why? Is it the way we're taught Islam?
This doesn't make Islam a bad religion or anything, as Islam is an independent entity. Its like mathematics. Mathematics is pure and accurate. But if a student is doing math problems and keeps making mistakes...does that mean mathematical equations suddenly aren't working? Or does it mean the student was not taught correctly?
Re: Muslim Behavior
Because we always look for "bad" things in our Muslims rather than looking at the good part and promoting that.. we can spend 1000 hours on discussing what is wrong but not a single hour or minute to help in the cause of Islam.
Re: Muslim Behavior
How can you help in the cause of Islam if you don't know what the obstacles to Islam are?
Unfortunately, muslims themselves are the obstacles to their own religion! The irony.
Re: Muslim Behavior
Of course you can…Islam as a religoin is external to what Muslims do. Gray areas come in matters of interpretation…but let’s not get too carried away with these…
What one can’t do is seperate the perception of Islam from how Muslims behave.
Re: Muslim Behavior
We value "world" more than our religion, simple. Since "religion" is our only "moral" teacher (which is fine), putting religion on backburner throws you in the open and then you run wild for everything and run into all sorts of problems.
Re: Muslim Behavior
But what makes us put religion on the backburner? Is it because we gulp actually don't believe in what we profess to believe?