Musicians speak on the current situation

Musicians on the ban on news
In this concluding part, Instep Today brings you soundbytes from the music industry on the news channels being taken off air in Pakistan. They are largely apathetic to the blank screens where news used to be…
Maheen Sabeeh
Karachi

Once upon a time, it seems not too long ago, but it is actually a very long time ago Pervez Musharraf came and took charge of Pakistan. He let private channels beam into our homes,

stood on stage with Junoon and gave Faakhir Pride of Performance, smoked a cigar and relaxed at the Karafilm Festival in 2005, recommended others to go and watch Khuda Kay Liye. In return, the entertainment industry has defended him on days when even the strongest Musharraf supporters were going through a change of heart. The music industry is now divided on the banning of news channels. Most of them feel that this media was irresponsible in its approach to political matters.
“The media had an opportunity to be responsible but the media had let go of all their aesthetics,” says Ali Hamza and adds, “taali do haaton sey bajti hai (it takes two hands to clap). Everyone had a role to play in what has happened today, the judiciary and the media.” Of course President Musharraf’s role in the way he dealt with these pillars of democracy is a non-issue for musicians who believe that news channels are responsible for what has happened.
Rohail Hyatt says, “Now that all the news channels are off air, it suddenly hits you how far we had come and how Musharraf had given freedom. This is a glimmer of how things were back in the day when we were growing up. What is the 24 hours of negativity? Are there no good things that have happened or are happening? This doomsday scenario that was being played out by the media all the time was irresponsible. Media, news channels are a platform and it shapes the views of the people, the nation.”

Rohail holds news channels responsible for the news mix and projecting that everything is going downhill.
Shafqat Amanat Ali Khan agrees with him. “To a certain extent media did cross a line. There are limits to everything. The Lal Masjid footage shouldn’t have been shown on television because it really destroyed our image in the world, the image we have been struggling to change for so long.”
And other musicians like Abbas Ali Khan present a view which is rather mind boggling.
“To some extent media is responsible Negativity has been in the air for the last few months,” he recalls. “Back in the old days, even when the political situation was bad, people were living in some peace because there was little propaganda on television. Now people are living in constant fear.”
Ali Hamza, Rohail, Shafqat and Abbas like their news dumbed down, without edge, rosy. Let’s forget about the judicial crisis and concentrate on the flyovers being built. The apathy of musicians to the cause of free media is mind boggling. If anyone should know what it’s like to be banned and put out of sight by those in power it’s them. But then again, reporting the truth for what it is and selling lullabies of love are two different ballgames. I personally feel that our news channels were controversial because Pakistan is a controversial country and couldn’t understand where these guys were coming from at all until one member from the music fraternity put it all in perspective.
Fuzon guitarist Shallum Xavier says: “The emergency is not fair on the music industry. Music is the most consistent form of entertainment in Pakistan. Even before the emergency, the political scenario had become a soap opera and the nation had been tuning in to see what was developing on a daily basis. The news channels had suddenly become entertainment channels whereas the entertainment industry had been sidelined.”
An honest take on the situation at last!
The music industry hasn’t gotten much attention in the last few months because even as channels have been around, the masses are focused on news. But isn’t that what is more

important? Perhaps it is being sidelined that has led our iconic musicians resenting the fact that the masses of Pakistan have of late been hooked onto hard news and not their music. But do we really want to live in a world where music thrives as lawyers, activists and journalists are being baton charged by police men?
While one understands the fears of the music industry – they thrive on fame and glory - it is certainly not the time to take this selfish approach. This is about Pakistan and its leadership who is threatening unarmed men and women because they are taking a stand on an issue. It is not about videos anymore or gigs. But when will our singers realize this?
Media has a social responsibility and there is no denying it. However, the nature of Pakistani politics is such that it is hard to put a positive spin on it. How can one put a positive side to journalists being beaten up, illegal arrests, constitution being molded again and again, CJ being expelled or suspended, bomb blasts and the inability of the government to control the situation in Waziristan and now Swat?
Omran Shafique is one of the few musicians to get it. “You can’t hold the media responsible,” he says firmly. “The job of media and of reporters is to report things as they are. They can be positive or negative. The nature of news is such that it is usually negative. You can’t blame them for doing their jobs.”
He is joined by a shocked Ali Haider who said: “This same government gave media independence when it came into power and now the same government has stripped the media from its independence.” Ali admits to being saddened by it.
Musicians, like always, refuse to take a political stand. Music channels are on air and they are in business so far. This too shall pass and they’ll be able to play their guitars in open air again. And if news channels aren’t their to cover the concerts, they won’t be missed. Videos are on and all is okay on the small sonic island of Music-dom in Pakistan where songs of free speech are simply not sung.
Their attitude is more ‘Dil Dil Pakistan’ than anything else. ‘Bol Keh Lub Azad Hain Teray’ belongs in some forgotten book on some dusty shelf.

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rohail hayaat himself was a dictator in VS group. so no surprise he is kissing madman mushy’s butt. :halo:

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VS=mush supporters?

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Do you have a link because it is really difficult to read with all these codes...

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Why just blame Rohail Hayyat, because he gave the music for KKL? what about the other two with similar staements?

“The media had an opportunity to be responsible but the media had let go of all their aesthetics,” says Ali Hamza and adds, “taali do haaton sey bajti hai (it takes two hands to clap). Everyone had a role to play in what has happened today, the judiciary and the media.” Of course President Musharraf’s role in the way he dealt with these pillars of democracy is a non-issue for musicians who believe that news channels are responsible for what has happened."

Shafqat Amanat Ali Khan agrees with him (RH). “To a certain extent media did cross a line. There are limits to everything. The Lal Masjid footage shouldn’t have been shown on television because it really destroyed our image in the world, the image we have been struggling to change for so long.”

And other musicians like Abbas Ali Khan present a view which is rather mind boggling. “To some extent media is responsible Negativity has been in the air for the last few months,” he recalls. “Back in the old days, even when the political situation was bad, people were living in some peace because there was little propaganda on television. Now people are living in constant fear.”

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Rohail Hyatt says, "Now that all the news channels are off air, it suddenly hits you how far we had come and how Musharraf had given freedom. This is a glimmer of how things were back in the day when we were growing up. What is the 24 hours of negativity? Are there no good things that have happened or are happening? This doomsday scenario that was being played out by the media all the time was irresponsible. Media, news channels are a platform and it shapes the views of the people, the nation."

Absolutely! Now a lot of people are realising all the freedoms that Musharraf gave us.

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it was on jang instep, but it gets updated everyday and previous content is deleted.

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a dicator??
is that why shoaib monsoor and jj are full of praises for him, he is a very respectfull person in the music industry and superb musican,
just cause he doesnt share the same opinion as you doesnt mean you start making up things about him,

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"The media had an opportunity to be responsible but the media had let go of all their aesthetics," says Ali Hamza and adds, "taali do haaton sey bajti hai (it takes two hands to clap).** Everyone had a role to play in what has happened today, the judiciary and the media." Of course President Musharraf's role in the way he dealt with these pillars of democracy is a non-issue for musicians who believe that news channels are responsible for what has happened **

Yup, so true.

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The musicians found unprecedented freedom under Mush, which they know they will lose (along with their heads) once Taliban comes into power.

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What this has to do with Politics and Economics? I wonder this thread which does not belong here is still there!!!:offtopic:

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because its about how a particular industry or group of people view an action taken i.e. shutting down TV stations, as part of an emergency imposition.

how is that not related to politics :)

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Yup, that's very true.

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Please emphasize on "GAVE" in this very sentence. Again, he gave us more than any other leader on freedom of speech, expression and created a total independent and free media. THank you. But the situation today has made us jump back to stone age. Pak's image around the world right now is worse as ever. Maybe even worse than at Zia's times.

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:cb:…tru

besides
is that Ali Hamza, Ali Noor (gay’s) brother?

Shafqat Amanat Ali Khan’s requires more in-depth analysis. he is blaming media which just a medium rather the actual actors (govt and Mullahs) :smiley:

Abbas Ali Khan- lets see what Liaqat Ali khan gonna say on his grandson’s statement on the day of judgement :halo:

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Nice to read this thread thanks for sharing it here Suhaib.
Some very logical statements by the stars!

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^ like what?

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^like mushy is great mushy is awesome mushy is right. All that blabbering. You know.

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"The media had an opportunity to be responsible but the media had let go of all their aesthetics," says Ali Hamza and adds, **"taali do haaton sey bajti hai (it takes two hands to clap). Everyone had a role to play in what has happened today, the judiciary and the media." **Of course President Musharraf's role in the way he dealt with these pillars of democracy is a non-issue for musicians who believe that news channels are responsible for what has happened.
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Rohail Hyatt says, "Now that all the news channels are off air, it suddenly hits you how far we had come and how Musharraf had given freedom. This is a glimmer of how things were back in the day when we were growing up. What is the 24 hours of negativity? Are there no good things that have happened or are happening? This doomsday scenario that was being played out by the media all the time was irresponsible. Media, news channels are a platform and it shapes the views of the people, the nation." *Rohail holds news channels responsible for the news mix and projecting that everything is going downhill. *
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Shafqat Amanat Ali Khan agrees with him. "To a certain extent media did cross a line. There are limits to everything. The Lal Masjid footage shouldn't have been shown on television because it really destroyed our image in the world, the image we have been struggling to change for so long."
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And other musicians like Abbas Ali Khan present a view which is rather mind boggling. **"To some extent media is responsible Negativity has been in the air for the last few months,"
he recalls. **"Back in the old days, even when the political situation was bad, people were living in some peace because there was little propaganda on television. Now people are living in constant fear."
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Fuzon guitarist **Shallum Xavier says: "The emergency is not fair on the music industry. Music is the most consistent form of entertainment in Pakistan. Even before the emergency, the political scenario had become a soap opera and the nation had been tuning in to see what was developing on a daily basis. The news channels had suddenly become entertainment channels whereas the entertainment industry had been sidelined."
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I couldn;t find any such thing here :p

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thanks Spock....I have been assigned this special duty to keep all Mush supporters on their toes by Spock!

Pakistan: Trapped Between a Pharoah and a False Prophet

By Salman Ahmad (the founder of the Pakistani rock band Junoon and a UN goodwill ambassador for HIV/AIDS) He's featuring in a rally in New York on the 18th.

As the world watches, Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons, descends into political chaos, much attention has been given to two leaders competing for power – the current dictator, General Pervez Musharraf, and the media-savvy Benazir Bhutto. The White House, for the moment, appears to be backing Musharraf as its best bet in the so-called “war on terror,” while the world media and the western liberal elite see Bhutto as a democratic savior for a country mired in Islamic fundamentalism.

Both fail to recognize the core of the problem that plagues Pakistani politics and society. l believe that without a strong and independent judiciary,Pakistan will be forever at the mercy of power grabbing dictators and politicians.Its the lack of oversight and institutional accountability which leads to the coups and counter coups and helps perpetuate a constant state of instability in the country.

As an artist and a social activist I have worked extensively with both Musharraf and Bhutto's governments on peace initiatives and social uplift themes before, and have been disillusioned by their lack of commitment and political will to get any real work done while spending most of their time in consolidating their power bases.

On several occasions after September 11th, I was invited to General Musharraf’s house in Islamabad, and was surprised to see him even join me onstage in concert to help support a united national anti-extremist front. I,like many others of my generation,initially believed and supported his commitment to introduce a new era of "enlightened moderation" in Pakistan, a nation that was hijacked by religious fanatics during the American-backed military dictatorship of General Zia ul-Haq in the 1980s.

Unfortunately General Musharraf forgot that artists like myself are not seduced by presidential palaces or official praise. We had supported him for his promise of fighting extremism,bringing accountability into politics,opening up a free and independent media and reducing the immoral gap between Pakistan's rich and poor communities.No amount of political song and dance or governmental fear-mongering can make us look the other way while he imposes emergency rule,intimidates the media, dismantles the judiciary and muzzles any form of dissent against his flawed vision of democracy which is doomed to fail without the respect for civil institutions.

And yet Benazir Bhutto is no savior. The queen of hypocrisy and media manipulation, she has managed to hypnotize Western liberal classes with her false claims to represent progressive elements in the Muslim world. Ms. Bhutto is a charlatan and a false prophet of democracy. How can she insist on being a democrat while selfishly appointing herself life chairperson of the Pakistan people's party? Her years as Pakistan’s prime minister witnessed staggering levels of corruption and billion-dollar graft that left even the most cynical Pakistanis speechless. Benazir's own niece and sister in law accuse her of conspiring to murder her own brother,Murtaza,who was becoming a thorn for her government and a real challenge to her power during her second term as prime minister.She continues to see Pakistan as her personal feudal fiefdom to be pillaged and plundered at will and threatens to bring back the rule of the gangster rather than the rule of law.

During the late nineties I recorded a song called "Accountability" along with a music video that satirized Pakistani politicians like Bhutto whose corruption scandals were being reported in international publications like The New York Times and Newsweek. Her government’s response was to ban the music video and threaten my life. In the years since Bhutto fled the country to escape investigation of her family’s corrupt activities, her greed to regain power has blinded her from the genuine struggle being waged by Pakistanis on behalf of true democracy. One of her own party members,the lawyer Aitzaz Ahsan, who won the case for the restoration of the Chief justice of the supreme court, still languishes in jail along with thousands of others while Benazir attends diplomatic receptions and makes speeches about freedom and liberty. Earlier this year,while lawyers and human rights activists faced injury and death for standing up to Musharraf’s authoritarian regime, she was sipping lemonade on the sunny beaches of Dubai waiting for her go ahead from Washington.

So if neither the path of the military strongman nor the path of the feudal democrat serves the needs of Pakistan, what is an alternative model? The answer comes from within the genesis of Pakistan's freedom movement:One needs to only look at Pakistan's founder, Muhammad Ali Jinnah's struggle and sacrifice as a clear example of legal and political activism.Jinnah ,belonging to the Muslim middle class of India,was a strict constitutional lawyer,and an exellent blend of both Islamic and Western values of social justice.60 years on, the vast majority of Pakistanis still look back at him as being the best role model for Pakistani politics.Although secular in outlook he quoted his inspiration to be Prophet Muhammad,who he recalled as being the greatest law giver in history.Tenacious and uncorruptible to the core,Jinnah, sacrificed his life and property arguing the case for Pakistan and won independance from the British imperialists.The US and its allies need to unequivocally support civil society:the Pakistani supreme court judges, lawyers,journalists and human rights activists who are fighting to protect the rule of law.That in itself is the best weapon against the extremists and will also provide a safeguard against other adventurous leaders.

Shakespeare warned that the first instinct of a dictator is to “kill the lawyers.” He was right. It is the lawyers and the Judiciary who are the hope and the future of Pakistan. Let’s stand by their side and not surrender to the Pharoahs and the false prophets, whether they are clothed in a military uniform or a stylish Hermes scarf.