One thing I dont get is why playing musical instruments is haram in Islam, I know that there is a sound logic behind everything in Islam but I cant seem to figure it out. I want to buy an electric guitar but I’m having doubts. Whats so bad about musical instruments anyway and how come drums are allowed but not stringed instruments??
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stringed instruments is like sinnly--they are satan's music---because like i kno the flute is haram-mainly because it can be kind of sensual. however i do not kno the proper reason
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Dear Brothers and Sisters
Assalam-o-Alaikum
It is a controversial issue. Some people relate certain instances from Islamic history, to prove that it is NOT ALLOWED **while there are others, who think it to be **PERMISSIBLE. I have deliberately not used the word **Hallal **or **Haram **because throughout Holy Quran, there is no clear cut **Hurmat **of Music. Lets look at some Ahadith and instances from Islam on this topic.
- There is a Hadith which says, "Amongst Muslims there would be people who would allow adultery, silk, wine and musical instruments".
This Hadith states that there would be people who would allow this, but it does not tell that Music is Hallal **or **Haram. Definitely, adultary, wine, gambling, magic, murder, theft etc have been clearly made Haram, both in Sunnah and in Quran. Moreover all acts of lust, obscenity, vulgarity and immoralty are Haram. In this Hadith, the mention of music is in relation to Wine, Adultary, Silk etc all related to lust, immorality etc. Most probably this Hadith relates to that form of Music which is associated with these vices of immorality and acts of lust.
- There is an incident quoted in the books of History that once a Sahabi (probably Hazrat Abu Bakar) (RA) was reciting Holy Quran when he heard the sound of a flute. After hearing this sound, he put his fingers in his ears.
There are some people who on the base of this incident state that Flute **is Haram. Some go further ahead and say that music of any kind is Haram as it tends to distract you away from Quran, Prayers and Religion. It is probably mis-interpreted. This incident does not prove that Flute or Music is Haram. It simply states that the sound of flute was found to be disturbing by Hazrat Abu Bakar (RA) so he put his fingers in his ears. Similarly, any sound, act or thing can distract your attention from reciting Quran or offering prayers. It can be a book, a game, a relation etc. Just take the example of Internet. Internet itself is neither Haram nor Hallal. But if you start missing your prayers and other religious obligations, than it would be better to stay away from it. Similarly **if Music keeps you away from religion, then it is better to keep yourself away from Music, but it does not mean that it is Haram in itself.
- There is another incident from the life of Holy Prophet Muhammad (MPBUH) while he was in Makkahh. It is stated that once Holy Prophet (MPBUH) was passing near the Holy Kaaba when he heard the sound of **Drums **coming from Holy Kaaba. Holy Prophet (MPBUH) put his hands on his ears and started running away from Holy Kaaba and asked his companions to tell him when that sound stops coming to their ears. After a distance where the beat of Drum could not be heard, Sahaba (RA) told Holy Prophet (MPBUH) to drop his hands from his ears.
There are certain people who on account of this incident declare **Drums **or Music to be Haram. Whereas if you read the full account of this incident, it would be made clear that at that time, a religious ceremony of **Kufar **and **Mushrikeen **was being held, and they were reciting un-islamic songs (like Bhajans of Hindus) on the beat of Drums, so Holy Prophet (MPBUH) was not running away from the beat of Drums but from listening to those un-islamic religious songs being sung for **Idols **on the beat of Drum in Holy Kaaba.
- When Hazrat Muhammad (MPBUH) migrated to Madina, some little girls were reciting qaseedas on the beat of a Daff.
Some people say that only **Daff **is allowed and that too with Qaseedahs by young girls etc. My point is if Daff is allowed with Qaseedahs of Holy Prophet (MPBUH) than why not other instances. Please read the following.
- At one of the Eids, some girls were singing near Hazrat Muhammad (MPBUH) on the beat of Daff, when they were stopped by Hazrat Abu Bakar (RA). The Holy Prophet (MPBUH) then told Hazrat Abu Bakar (RA), "O Abu Bakar (RA) do not stop them on this occasion of Eid. Don't you know that every Ummah before us had an Eid and we have two Eids".
It is clear that it was the time of rejopicing and Holy Prophet (MPBUH) allowed for the celeberation with Daff. Some say that it is only allowed at Eids and by young girls. This is again is a radical approach as will be clear from the incident below.
- The incident of some black slaves **dancing **with **spears **on the beat of **Drums **and **Duff **in the streets of Madina is present in Saheeh books of Hadith. This dance was looked upon by Hazrat Muhammad (MPBUH) and also Hazrat Ayesha Siddiqa (RA) from behind the shoulder of Hazrat Muhammad (MPBUH) through a slit in the door.
It means that men can also dance or rejoice at the the beat of drum. Some say that it is only allowed at Eids and before wars by young girls or men only and not women. Now read this.
- There is a Hadith in Sunnan-e-Nisai Sharif in the chapter Ailan-ul-Nikkah. It goes like this, "Hazrat Aamer bin Saeed (RA) states, 'I went to Hazrat Qurzata bin Ka'ab (RA) and Hazrat Abu Masood Ansari (RA) in a wedding ceremony. At that time slave girls were singing some songs. I asked them that they were the Ashab of Prophet (MPBUH) and were from Ahle Badar. What was that music in front of them? After hearing this they both replied, 'If you want, you can sit with us, if not, you are free to go but we have been allowed by the Holy Prophet (MPBUH) for this at this wedding', ".
It means that even women can go for singing and music at weddings.
As far as the establishment of a relation between String instruments and **Shaitan **is concerned, it is an inference carved by some and not by majority of scholars.
Now lets look at it from another view and that is from a **Common Sense **point of View.
Allama Shami in the famous book of Fiqah, Rad-ul-Mukhtar says the following in book 5 page 343,
"As such no musical instrument **is Haram by itself. An instrument is Haram only when it is with the **intention of Lust. The intention of lust is determined by the intention (nee'at or nee'ah) of the player **of an instument of lust and its **listener. It means that if the intention of either of them is that of lust, then it would be Haram. Moreover, every musical instument is not an instrument of lust. Don't you see that playing of these musical instrument as detemined by intention is at times Haram and at others, Halal. And the ruling on Deeds is through Intention (nee'ah) i.e., Inna mal a'amal 0 bin niyyat".
Having written thus far, it is clear that in all those instances when music was being played in realtion to un-Islamic things, it was avoided by Holy Prophet (MPBUH) and his Sahaba (RA) but when it was played in relation to Islamic Celeberations (Eids), Weddings, Wars etc, it was not avoided.
It is clear that as such *NO **Ayat or Hadith declares the *Absolute Hurmat *of Music. That found in certain Ahadith is only *Relative Hurmat **and absolute hurmat has been carved out of them.
There are some people who say that the only instrument allowed is Daff. It is not the case. Since at that time, there were limited number of instruments. To say that only Daff is allowed will probably not serve the purpose, because on the same premise, all the modern inventions and developments will have to be thrown away. As there were only horses, camels, swords. etc, so one can argue that even in this 21st century, the Muslim Armies should only do Jehad with horses, camels, swords etc. Is'nt it illogical, that we use the Internet and all the modern gadgetories for the propagation of our own interpretations of Islam, but when it comes to the issues, not liked by us, we shrug our shoulders by saying no to any new invention, even if, it is in the musical industry. Why don't we get the point. We are mixing two issues of Halal **and **Haram, plus Music **and **Musical Istrument.
In view of the above, most of the Sunni (especially Brelvis), Shias, Sufi orders like Chishtia and Qadaria consider Music and Musical Instruments to be permissible. On the other hand most of Sunni Deobandis and Ahle-Hadith do not consider it permissible.
Lets summarise it as follows:
Q1. What is Haram?
A 1. It is Immorality, Obscenity, Vulgarity, Idolatory and Lust. Yes it is Haram even with Daff.
Q2. What about Daff? Is it the only instrument Halal?
A 2. No Sir. It is the music without Immorality, Obcenity, Vulgarity and Lust that is permissible even with instruments other than Daff.
Considering the above, it can be inferred that those forms of Music associated with immorality, obcenity, vulgarity, lust etc are not allowed at all, but Music associated with weddings and functions, in the absence of immorality, and without mixing of genders is permissible. Similar is the case with Military Bands and National Songs, Qawalis etc. But concerts, discos, dance clubs, music clubs and musical shows with lusty songs and immoral dances have no place whatsoever in Islam.
Regards for all of you.
Wassalam.
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Nothing is wrong with it. Go out and buy that guitar, you won't regret it.
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Aao Tum ko bataaouN maiN, Taqdeer-e-Umam kiyaa hai
Shamsheer-O-SinaaN awwaL, Taaoos-O-Rubab Aakhir
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There is no reason, and music is not haraam. Sensual? So many things can be sensual for different people, does it make it haraam? Tapping your feet, or walking and marching can create rythm, does it make it haraam? This topic has been beaten to death.
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Musical instruments affects on human body same as vine. YOu lost your control over your body and start to dance.
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Not true. It may have this effect to you, and others, but some people enjoy music for what it is, MUSIC.
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Somebody please explain to me why a trumpet (which is also a musical instrument) will be blown, by Hazrat Israfil, to rise all souls from the dead, at Judgement Day.
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Why the Psalms were gifted to Prophet Daud (as)?
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haww you terrorist..
how uncultured
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hehe… I have not read anywhere that it will be a trumpet.
Hazrat Daud :as: had a great voice that was blessed by Allah :swt:. He :as: used it for Allah’s zikr and rememberance. At that time, Shaitan used tried to counter his zikr with music. I read it in Kashful-Mahjoob (by Syed Ali Hajveri Rehmatullah Aleih ).
If anyone gets a chance, do read Allama Iqbal’s “Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam.” He has mentioned in it how music imparts a touch of non-reality to human behaviour, which can be detrimental to a person’s attention towards Allah.
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Why the Psalms were gifted to Prophet Daud (as)?
Just cause its "called" a trupment doesn't mean its supposed to be "just like" one we have in this world and musical in nature. I bet no human would wanna hear the "music" that comes out of "that trumpet".
And as far as Psalms are concerned..the psalms were sung. The issue here is about music, not about songs.
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Since when is singing not music? Singing is NO different than playing a musical instrument. Like musical instruments, singing consists of the arrangement of notes to form a melody.
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And as far as Psalms are concerned..the psalms were sung. The issue here is about music, not about songs.
What is Psalm? Its a derivative of a word which means Harp. A harp is a musical instrument which is played by striking its strings. Also known as "a wind instrument".
As for the trumpet, its not about liking & not liking. The question is why a musical instrument will be blown at judgement day, if it is forbidden.
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assuming what you're saying is valid,
Musical instruments ------> arrangement of notes to form melody
Singing ------------> arrangement of notes to form melody
Singing -------/-------> Musical Instruments (invalid argument)
Now that you've exhibitted your etymological skills, let me state that its merely its literal meaning and nothing more. Its clearly mentioned in both the Quranic and the Biblical texts, that the Psalms were songs or poems and nothing else with absolutely no music.
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Now that you've exhibitted your etymological skills, let me state that its merely its literal meaning and nothing more. Its clearly mentioned in both the Quranic and the Biblical texts, that the Psalms were songs or poems and nothing else with absolutely no music.
Thanks for clearing that up, brother Sharaabi.
Can you please give referrence to these Quranic texts?
Thanks.
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I don’t see you can call it an invalid argument. When one is singing, their VOICE is the musical instrument. An instrument is a tool used to create the arrangement of notes to form a melody.
The Azaan is musical. Nobody can deny that. Why is it? It’s simple. The notes used in it’s recital, is arranged to create melody.
It’s really not that hard to understand.
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^^ even if "Voice" is a musical instrument, it doesn't really matter.
No one ever said.. ALL musical instruments are haraam. Just stringed metal music instruments are.
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So what about Stringed non-metal musical instruments, such as a nylon stringed classical guitar? Regardless if it’s stringed, skinned, or air instrument, or even a voice, it all leads to the creation of music.
I don’t see your logic.