Music : Plain and Simple

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Music in Islam and why those who deny it is haram, are commiting an act of kufer. (The rule in islam “denying something in islam that haram to being halal or something halal to being haram is kufer” it renders one thinking, behaving, or immitating a non believer.) The qur’an and hadeeth, along with the statements of the companions and salaf confirm the prohibition of music.

Surah Luqmaan:06 “and there are among men those who purchase idle talk (music and poetry) in order to mislead others from Allah’s path without knowledge, and who throw ridicule upon it.”

Idle talk has been interpreted to mean singing, listening and playing of musical intruments by various scholars and companions including Abdullah Ibn Masood ans Abdullah Ibn Abbas. Masood when questioned about the term Idle Talk replied “I swear besides whom there is no other God, that it refers to singing (ghinaa).”

Contrary to popular belief there are a number of Sahih (Authentic) Hadeeth which clearly point to the fact that music, instruments, singing to the accompaniment of instruments etc. are prohibited by the Shari’ah.

Sahih Bukhari: “there will be those of my Ummah who will seek to make lawful: fornication, the wearing of silk, wine drinking and the use of musical instruments..”

The words, ‘seek to make lawful’, shows that music is not permissible. Furthermore the prohibition of music is mentioned along with major sins like drinking and fornication.

Ibn Majah, Abu Dawood and Ibn Habban: “A people of my Ummah will drink wine, calling it by other than that, it’s real name. Merriment will be made for them through the playing of musical instruments and the singing of female singers. Allah will cleave the Earth under them and turn others into Apes and Pigs.”

There are Ahadith by Haakim Al Mustadrak, Musad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal and Majma uz Zawaaid that say ‘Two cursed sounds are that of the wind instrument and that of wailing upon the occurrence of adversity’.

Bukhari & Muslim both quote: “Remember! To fill a person’s stomach with puss is better than to fill it with poems.”

There are those who will argue that the Prophet (saw) liked the sound of the Duff (a small hand drum without steel jingles). The beating of the Duff at weddings was not for the purpose of music, it was to announce the wedding. However, the Duff is a halal (permitted) instrument.

An Nasee&Tirmidhi: “that which distinguishes the allowed marriage from the forbidden is the sound of the duff”.

Though the scholars argue that the use of the duff was only allowed for women. The duff was used by Arabs without rhythm, melody or any trace of immorality.

In the highly regarded book on fiqu and fatawa FATAWA RAHIMIYAH, it states, “Qawwali, tabla and musical intruments etc. are absolutley prohibited (haram).”

It is reported in the Musand of Ibn Abi Al-Dinar that the holy Prophet (saw) said: “In the last era a community from this Ummah will be transformed into monkeys and swines.” The companions said, 'O Apostle of Allah! Will they not be believing in the Kalima ‘there is no deity but Allah and Mohammed is his apostle?’ The Prophet (saw) said, “why not?” The companions asked ‘Then what will be the reason for this punishment?’ The Prophet (saw) replied: “They will adopt the profession of singing and music.” He also said, “It is a sin to hear music, it is a fault to sit at a musical fete and it is infidelity to derive pleasure from it.” (Nisab, b.52,p 103, DM&S vol 5 p 306)

The great Imams, Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi & Imam Malik all declared the playing of and listening to of music Haram.

Yes i agree with u Saadia .... infact there is one more thing that i'd like to add
Its that before the Day of Judgement , at the arrival of Dajjal (Kaafir) who will declare himself the only god to worship, he is going to bring out music with him and will fill this World with it ,infact the ppl who are going to accomapny him will be his followers and they will be seen dancing and playing music around him ...
so we should all make sure we don't get ourselves into trouble ... right ?

Many don't believe it's halal, but do it, but that's a sin. Renedering a halal that is known to be haram by consensus is Kufur, and vice versa.

The problem is that some are so stubborn and ignorant, that because they do that Haram act, they would say about it's ok, it's not haram. There's a person who has a pizza store in which he sells ham in it, I adviced him, I said brother, if you want barakah in your money, leave haram and selling ham.. he told me no brother, I have to feed my family, so it's halal to sell it as long as I don't eat it!! Subhanallah.. I taught him and claified it to him and after it, he was convinced, and told him to say Shahadatayn: Ash-Hadu al-La ilaha illa-llah wa Ash-Hadu Anna Muhammadan Rasulullah, and he never went back to that belief, however, he did remained selling ham pizza but with the belief that what he's doing is haram.. which is so bad, but at least he refrained from that dangerous belief.

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May Allah Raise Their Ranks, and May Allah Gather us With These scholars In Paradise.

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[This message has been edited by Ahmad G (edited March 20, 2001).]

Are you guys for real? Playing music and listening to it is Haraam? Geez...louise!!

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Originally posted by Sadiaa:
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Music in Islam and why those who deny it is haram, are commiting an act of kufer. (The rule in islam "denying something in islam that haram to being halal or something halal to being haram is kufer" it renders one thinking, behaving, or immitating a non believer.)**
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So I am a Kafir? Again?

I am starting to enjoy being called that...


They shoot partypoopers, don't they?

How can you say one instrument is haram and the other is halal when “music itself is haram”!!!

Mr. Partypooper,
You should've been able to come up with a better reply.. no? Did you get the point of the article..? If you did, then no use disecting it.. and if there's anything which u find is stated incorrectly in there.. back it up with proof...

natureboy,
I dont know for sure.. but it has something to do with the fact that some instruments produce a tune or a rythm.. while others dont.

ammarr...

My question remains unanswered.

I suggest that we take this one step at a time.

According to the opening article of this thread, why does the article need to declare at the outset that any person who does not agree with it is immediately qualified to become a Kafir in the eyes of the author?

Is there a potential for healthy discussion here? Or do you think that the article is more likely to scare off people?

Especially if it is wrong?


They shoot partypoopers, don't they?

Mr. PartyPooper,

I dont know as much about Islam as you do.. I'm only here to learn..

why dont you start by contradicting yourself and asking 'why not should a person be labled kafir..?'

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Originally posted by Sadiaa:
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Music in Islam and why those who deny it is haram, are commiting an act of kufer. (The rule in islam "denying something in islam that haram to being halal or something halal to being haram is kufer" **
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so typical of us muslims' happy-go-lucky style of kicking everyone out of islam, at the blink of an eye.
as if islam is so weak, that it cant keep its followers devoted to itself.
listen, music might be a sin, but then there are so many others. does this mean that after every sin you are a kafir? theres no mercy in islam; its just that since you do this and that, hence you are a kafir and out of islam.
put this way, we are all kafirs here, one way or the other.

qawwali? naats?


ThE MuChaChO, man with the plan..