Musharraf, resignation, clarifictions, honorable exit etc. (Threads merged)

Oh dear. So the eralier news was yet another false hope for people wanting Musharaf out. :slight_smile:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008/02/28/story_28-2-2008_pg7_4

US senators deny calling for Musharraf to quit
** Say they are encouraged by political leaders’ commitment to move forward constructively*

WASHINGTON: Two key US senators, who witnessed the February 18 polls, have clarified their reported remarks regarding President Pervez Musharraf’s political position, saying they never called for Musharraf to step down.

Democratic Senator Joseph Biden and Republican Chuck Hagel, who travelled to Pakistan as part of a three-member Congressional election observer delegation, opposed any notion of presidential impeachment by the new parliament and also particularly highlighted the Pakistani leader’s avowed role in the transition period.

Senator Joseph Biden, who heads the influential Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said, “What we all three have been saying is that if, in fact, he’s treated with some respect by the parties that are forming the government, I believe that he will, in fact, step back from the exercise of the kind of power he’s tried to exercise.”

The legislator from Delaware also addressed the question on Tuesday at a press conference on Capitol Hill, saying he did not call for the Pakistani leader to relinquish his position.

“I’ve been reported to have said that I called for him to step down. That’s not what I said,” he clarified.

He said that Musharraf if treated with respect would “gracefully draw back, meaning not attempt to exercise the role of the prime minister, but exercise the role of the president. And so that’s what I mean when I say the transition is under way”.

In the Public Broadcasting Service programme, Biden said the Pakistani leader “made it pretty clear to us that he understood his role as president”.

“And the point I’ve been making — and all of us, actually, have been making — is that this is a transitional moment. The parties should look forward, not backward.”."

Biden added that President Musharraf “made it clear to us he thought the parliament should make the decisions now that it was elected”.

Hagel, who was part of the delegation that also included Democratic Senator John Kerry, said he “didn’t ever call for [Musharraf] to resign”.

“My goodness, what I said yesterday — go back and checck the record on CNN — is that, first, the leaders who will form a new government, a coalition government, will need to work this through. Certainly, it’s up to them, the Pakistani people, represented by their leaders,” he told the same programme..

He said Musharraf had accepted the elections and felt confident and comfortable when the delegation met him on the morning after the polls and he had accepted those results.

Hagel also acknowledged Musharraf’s vital role as an ally in the fight against terrorism, both in the interests of his country and of the world.

He added, “So I in no way want the record to show anything but what I’ve said about how important Musharraf has been, and he deserves that kind of respect, because he — let’s not forget hereeafter September 11, 2001, Musharraf became a very important ally to us at his political risk, his own risk here.”

Constructive way: Separately, Senator John Kerry, who also observed the February 18 polls, told a press conference, “I think Senator Biden, Senator Hagel and I were all enormously encouraged by the conversations we had with the leaders of each of the parties and by their commitment to try to move forward in a constructive way.

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Democratic Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., also urged the administration to move from “a policy focused on a personality, Musharraf, to one based on an entire country.”
Biden proposed that the United States triple nonmilitary aid for schools, roads and clinics and demand accountability in the military aid the U.S. gives Pakistan.
The United States has pumped nearly $10 billion in aid into Pakistan since Musharraf sided with Washington in the drive to topple the Taliban in neighboring Afghanistan and hunt down al-Qaida after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=278884

Honorable Way out for Musharraf

From the talk by US Senators who were on visit to Pakistan during elections, as well as the testimony by Gates yesterday, you can see an effort underfoot in the US to move away from Musharraf. At the same time, US does not want to hang Musharraf, because it will hurt US reputation in the world. Point being, Mushy was a US front-man, and if he had to leave under humiliating circumstances (like the Shah of Iran), dictators around the world who are deemed friends of US, will shake their heads and think many times before towing US line.

Its safe to assume, that in the famous Allah, Amreeka, Army troika, Amreeka is about the only one right now who is still backing this dead horse (no pun intended). Allah is not interested and Army, by all accounts, threw PML(Q) in front of the bus on February 18th.

So, here is what I believe will be an honorable exit for Musharraf. No, its not resigning right away. Its not impeachment. None of them give him a graceful exit.

What is likely to happen (personal opinion, of course) is a secret deal. Under which the parliament will be called in session. New government will be formed with Amin Faheem as Prime Minister. PML(N) will support the government but will not be in the cabinet. Supreme Court will be reinstated, but delaying tactics will ensure cases against Mushy are not heard right away. And within 4 to 6 months, there will be a serious medical crisis (heart attack or some thing), and Musharraf will leave his position to move to US for his medical treatment. His son already lives in California. Chairman Senate will take over temporarily and new Presidential elections will be called. Supreme Court cases against Mushy's eligibility for President will become moot. This will provide Musharaf an opportunity to make an honorable exit from Pakistan. It will rid the country of Musharraf, which is a critical demand by PML(N) and apparently majority of people of the country. And most importantly, no one loses face. Win-win all over.

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Daleel bhai. What is wrong with this? Are you not happy that the great USA wants to continue to help ALL of Pakistan. The US senators, despite the lies posted, have denied calling for great President Musharaf to quit. :D

Musharraf, resignation, clarifictions etc. (Threads merged)

Oh well. Let’s see if the PPP and PML (N) decide to Impeach the great President.

http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/news/international/musharraf-i-won’t-resign.aspx

Musharraf: I won’t resign

Islamabad, Feb. 28: Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf has said that he will not quit his post under any circumstances. “I am elected for five years and will continue to play my role. I will not resign,” Mr Musharraf said.

Talking to a delegation of newly elected members of the Pakistan Muslim League (Quaid-e-Azam) headed by party chief Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain here on Wednesday night, Mr Musharraf said he will not resign.

The PML-Q, which supports Mr Musharraf, lost heavily in the February 18 election as the Pakistan People’s party (PPP) and Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) won the majority of seats in the National and provincial Assemblies.

The PML-Q delegation assured the President that if anybody tried to impeach him their members in Parliament would oppose the move, a party leader said.

Mr Musharraf told the delegati on that services he had rendered to his country were visible to the masses and he would continue to perform his constitutional role in the future, the PML-Q leader who attended the meeting said. “The President said he had fulfilled his promise with the nation of holding free, fair and transparent elections in the country,” he said.

PML-Q leaders Faisal Saleh Hayat, Wajahat Hussain, Riaz Fitiyana, Raza Hayat Hiraj, Riaz Pirzada and Sheikh Waqas Hussain comprised the PML-Q delegation that discussed and reviewed the political situation and also Article 58 (2b) .of the Constitution.

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Isn’t the Great President going to live upto his word and leave because the public has given its mandate?

If i recall correctly Great Musharraf said if it is known that public does not want him around, he will leave.

hmmmm…:hmmm:I used to think he was a man of his word in all instances…:frowning: i’m hurt

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Aalsi bhai what is wrong with you, arent you happy that the people of Pakistan have spoken and they want the great Musharraf out or do you think he should stay despite the chappair he received at the elections. Like it or not your great leader is on his way out. Count the days, after all people did not come out on streets to protest against him because of the love they had for him. Remember that.

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Teggy bhaijan. No need to panic. Nawaz Sharif (PML (N) and Zardari (PPP) will oust great President Musharaf very soon, as per their pre-election promise to the electorate. Won’t they? :slight_smile:

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desperate measures of a desperate man. I have no doubt about him not resigning after all kursi means more to him than Pakistan and if he has to destroy Pakistan to stay in power than so be it.

That is why people didnt come out on the streets against him and also voted for his party in droves at the election. :hehe:

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Daleel bhai. That is why I am not worried. I am sure Nawaz Sharif (PML (N)) and Zardari (PPP) will keep their pre-election promise to the people, that have allegedly spoken, and will oust great President Musharaf. :hehe:

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But where were all those people on election day who did not come out on the streets against him because of the love they had for him. :rotfl:

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Daleel bhai. I absolutely agree with your quote. Great President Musharaf has indeed lived up to his promise, despite people shouting rigged, rigged, rigged before the elctions and saying he will do anything to save his Kursi. :D

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Daleel bhai. You are absolutely right. There were no people coming out on the streets protesting against great President Musharaf because they love him. Well spotted. But no need to panic. Afterall, Nawaz Sharif (PML (N)) and Zardari (PPP) had promised the electorate that they will oust the great President Musharaf when they are in power. Good luck. :hehe:

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as i said before the free and fair elections were held not because of Musharraf but despite him and the credit goes to Kiyani (withdrawing the army) observers and the media. They destroyed Mush's plan to rig the elections.
You still havent said which one is more important for you Musharraf or Pakistan.

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Daleel bhai. Once again you are absolutely right. Just like 1971, once again the Pakistan Army ensured the Freeest and Fairest election in Pakistan History. Thank god this time around under the Presidency of Great President Musharaf the leaders of the political parties are talking about forming governments and not splitting the country.