Musharraf refuses to pardon British murderer

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^^ where's the lie in that? As president he cannot violate a court judgement, as the court is an independent body. Court judgement finds him guilty, they now have not found him innocent. If you could understand the situation the sentence has been commuted, which means that he's still technically guilty but has served his time.

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According to home minister, Prime minister and his cabinet, looking at legal aspect and circumstances sent recommendation to President, to convert the death penalty to life imprisonment.

Regardless, where is pardon? Is converting death penalty into life imprisonment, pardon (when Pakistan laws have both sentences for murder)?

Now, looking at legal aspect and circumstances of the case, one feels that this case should not have got death sentence anyhow.

Whole case holds on accused self-confession, without any witnesses. If self-confession is taken regarding murder then why self-confession regarding the situation and circumstances of murder, was ignored?

Secondly, courts other then shariah court considered the accused innocent of intentional murder, rather considered that murder as accident, and in such situation, he should have got free. According to law, only intentional murder gets death penalty or even life imprisonment.

Let see the background of the case. A person comes to police station voluntarily, giving self-confession of murder due to accident, became accuse of murder. Criminal courts absolved him of intentional murder and discharged him. Shariet court, contrary to all other courts that absolved him of willful (intentional) murder, gave him death sentence on his self-confession. Is that justice?

Another injustice this case shows is that, for whatever reason, accused was getting punishment twice for same nature crime. His stay in prison is now around 18 years whereas life imprisonment for murder is normally 14 years, so he served life imprisonment. Now after serving that period in prison, court still wants death penalty for him, how unjust.

** It is true, the nature of case became known to people (public like you and me) and officials of present government, because of media and interfering of many (that includes British government), but then normally all government trusts that courts are functioning properly. Nevertheless, when case came to their attention (from whatever sources), Pakistan government acted. If Pakistan government would not have acted on this injustice, and not corrected the punishment, surely that would have been uncaring, unjust and worse thing to do. At least present government showed that they are caring and are not shy of correcting what is wrong.**

Only thing is that, government should abolish shariah court, as it seems, judges bounded in this court by shariah laws act pathetically, ridiculously and unjustly. We should remember that Pakistan shariah laws is nothing to do with Islam, but it is to do with Zia’s imagination and his licking of Saudi backside, that malign laws of Allah, making it look like ridiculous and unjust laws (when Allah and his laws are neither ridiculous nor unjust).

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I am seriously wonder about the purpose and utility of shariah courts. If this shariah court topi drama has to contnue we need to get independent legal scholars from various countries and schools of thought to review and make recomemndations.

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And you don't think that option was available to him previously when he said he would not intervene???

u r clutching at straws

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He has already been inside for 18 years, while the Life Term is for 14, therefore he has been released today (Friday) and handed over to the British High Commission as per news on TV, while this report says he’s free to go anywhere and is expected to be in UK soon.

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It's all so sad though. How will he face the world outside now? His education must be upto high school level only, he's 36 now, and it'll be so hard to adjust into normal life and society...I hope though that he stays strong and fights it. He's still a young man and can join the world outside again with some hard work and spirit.

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He’s back in Britain.

There are just so many things wrong with this picture. A man emerges after almost two decades from prison. He’s shattered. Powerless. Uneducated. Innocent. And people still have the courage to demand he get executed. One man’s wretched tango with the law has turned into a massive vendetta.

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^ missed one point, the man has committed murder and got away with 18 years improsonment.

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Who cares? He murdered a rapist. They should built a statue for him.

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Excellent decision by Musharraf.:k:

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Not really, he killed a poor driver and who care about a poor taxi driver. Isnt it?

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I think Jamshed's family was doing this because the young Brit had assasinated their families character as well as caused Jamshed's death.
**by accusing the deceased of being "Gay"....:( **

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Mirza Tahir Hussein served sentence and more for his crime, justice has been served. Lets not make this a ethnic issue,both families have suffered, enough is enough we should move on from here. Good decision by Musharraf.

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and you don’t think at all.

:k:
Glad to know he’s free..but now he’s just gonna face alot more troubles, uneducated, powerless etc. Poor guy :frowning:

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^LoL, how do u know he wasn't the reason the whole incident happened? Just a feeling? The whole story could be made up, truth is not always straightforward. I believe justice has been served though. And people with HS degree are uneducated and powerless? I believe he'll make a lot of $$ dishing out the dirt, so don't feel sorry for him too much.

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worst case scenario..he tries to run off without paying the taximan..Taximan pulls out a gun to stop him, struggle goes on, and he gets shot.

Even in the worst case, the murder was not pre meditated. If he's lying or telling the truth, doesnt matter. He didnt deserve to die for even the worst case scenario. He served his 18 years, and did his time. I don't feel sorry for him as I don't know the case details, but noone knows the real truth. He's served his time though.

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Of these taxi drivers! Not all but some of them are really dacoits! They have looted and murdered many expatraiats with the conivance of police over the years in Karachi.

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^ true.. back in late 80s and 90s it was advised not to take a cab from the airport because either u will get robbed en route or mysteriously robbers will show up at your house that night.

sorry guys, the poor guy has no record of violent crime, one does not just go to a diff country and flip a switch and become a cold blooded murderer, especially on his way from the airport..

And to say homosexuality and all is not rampant among some of these people is a misstatement, a culture which actually has a term 'aashna' ..... for young male companions of grown men..has more than enough shyt going on.

The reputation in cities like karachi is not based on fiction. the dry humping that these people do with lil boys in crowded buses is a all to known fact.

From where I stand, a scumbag rapist is sent to hell, an innocent victim of the guy's aggression is thrown in jail for self defence, and loses a big part of his life.
Good thing is he is back in UK, he should write a book and make millions...not that doing so will return 18 years of his life back to him and to his family.

The guy is my age..but looking at what being in jail has done to him makes me cringe. He has all my sympathies.

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^^ I agree with Fraudia!
How many people in Pakistan drive into police station after committing a murder or accident??

He went there being british and believing that he will get justice. instead he got locked up in jail for 18 years.

Being Pakistani he would have left the victim there and flew back to britain by next flight, and he would have avoided all this mess. Surely sincere people get nothing from justice system of Pakistan.

How many people would beleive he had gun when he just landed at airport? and already had this plan to murder this specific taxi driver?

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I dont know why we are spending hefty sums on our huge judiciary setup when we have a "Big Judge" who can supercede any decision of the court.