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Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
i think it was a positive move to mend relations with jewish ppl.. not sayin that we should trust them, but we need to get out of this yahoodi thing.. this anti-jewish thing..
i mean we here in nz are tryin to mend relations with christian and jewish community.. nd having public dialoges.. and then being hipocrytes about anti-jewish..
i dont think that allah said that we should hate jews.. if we can eat their food.. then we certainly can be their frnds.. bt as i said.. we cannot trust them as they might stab our backs..
ok wat m tryin to say is.. y cant we just live peaceful??
to be honest many christian ppl have not a got a basic idea of wat is islam... may it be priest.. from when they born in a hard christian family.. they are tought that mulims worship this stone in mecca.. and kiss the ground 5 tiems a day.. and i dono so much else.. ad many who get to know tru islam.. tend to convert..
so.. y best is to hve peacful dialogues.. then to protray hatred.. as that gets nothing..
Allah hafiz
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
ok reading that whole article.. that article only is protrayin y he didnt say isreal is legitimate..
first of all.. my 1st post was about makin peace with jews.. not isreal..
secound.. isreal is still unlawful... bt since they are goin to stay.. and the final battle going to happen there.. so we cant really do much.. bt to move on and go and we are
bt over all.. i support ma mushy
Allah hafiz
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
My heart goes out to the author who happens to be father of Danial Pearl. Danial was ruthlessly murdered by the MAToos in (or close to) Karachi.
However he should avoid these Bhatoo MAToo rag like SA tribune. I would say Amen to his suggestion of opeing up center in Karachi. That’s something we at people-to-people level should be doing. Dragging Musharraf into this is too much to ask.
The second issue is recognizing Israel. I think Pakistan should recongize Israel and move on.
We can’t force Israel to solve Palestinian issue just by ignoring its existence. In fact we may be prolonging Palestinian misrey by cutting ties with Israel. We should have ties with Israel and step in to help bring peace in the region.
Look what Hammas MAToos have done in the last few days. They simply are destroying any chances of bringing peace to Gaza. Pakistan should have enough leaverage with Israel to propose sending Pak army as peace keepers in Gaza. This will be good for Pakistan and good for Palestinians.
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
dnt tell me you actully read the south asian tribune
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
That silly urge to type this silly word like MAtoos…damn he did not call is shrink yet.
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^^ Cool! MAToos are getting irked now.
Deedee you got anything to say about the thread? Oh wait, your ilk eat the personal attack $hite three times daily.
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
Do you know the pros and cons of recognizing Israel besides APPARNTLY looking at the issue and taking a stance that relieves you from going into the detailed scrutiny of the facts?
This is the most stupid thing to say that we will prolong the Palstinian misery by NOT accepting Israel. Looks like you ignore the statements of the Israeli Leaders, their intentions clearly stated and their historical background during the last century…
Hammas is a struggle movement, just like any other movement in the world. THEY ARE NOT TERRORISTS… They are fighting against the terrorist aggressor… which is ISRAEL. And what do you mean by bringing peace to GAZA, a strip spanning only 11x4 miles !!! and do you know some facts of this area? What is the ratio of Muslim to Jews was there?
There were only 8,000 Jews in that area and 150,000 Muslims and I repeat the area of Gaza strip is 11 x 4 miles. Can you imagine how much Israel had to spend on the security of its Jews in that SMALL geography and take that headache??? So they thought of evacuating it IN A MANNER and PROJECTING it to the world that they are the most innocent peace loving people in the world. It was given great media coverage and the Fool Muslims were well pampered by the LOLLYPOP Israel gave to them…
Now here is another aspect. At the same time, Ariel Sharon issued statements that more Jewish sattlements are to be built in the West Bank where the Palastinian population is 2,400,000. The FULL control of GAZA strips Air and Sea routes is STILL COMPLETELY in the hands of Israel. So what are they trying to show the whole world? Jews never included the Gaza Strip in the map of greater Israel. If they evacuated it, it was for their own benefit and not for the benefit of the Palstinians…IN FACT, the Gaza strip is still in possession of Israel…
In fact is a a big DECEPTION by Israelis and WE, the MUSLIMS are FOOLS to look at it in this manner.
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
screw israel.
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
In addition to missing, this donkey president even twisted the facts. He(Musharraf) said in his address to Jewsih people that Hazrat Umar (RA) allowed the Jews to SETTLE and BUILD homes in the Palastine which is a shear naked dirty lie.
Hazrat Umar (RA) never allowed them to settle or build homes in Palastine. In fact, the city was peacefully surrendered by the Christians WITH THE CONDITION that the Muslims will NOT allow Jews to settle in there. And It is clearly stated in the pact that was made between Muslims and Christians upon the surrender…
Musharraf is such an asshole to say that in front of the Jews and MAKING IT and HISTORICAL address. I say this is a Historical Mistake of Musharraf, rather THE ONLY SO CALLED MUSLIM DICTATOR which the history will remember in its pages. S of bitch 
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
^ move with times son. Lets leave the bomb belt at home and speak with the vision of peace that Quran preaches. Ramazan mubarak
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
Oh great advice from you saint. Lets take your advice for a minute and let me ask you,
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Doesn’t Quran teach us to speak the truth and not give false testimony? Why did Musharraf spoke that lie?
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Second, (again considering your advice of taking the vision of Quran), doesn’t Quran say “steadfast to the truth” then doesn’t your advice of “move with times” a self contradiction? Does it mean if time says speak the lie, we should go with the FLOW of time and speak the lie ourselves?
What an ill-logic and what an ill reference you have made to Quran… AMAZING dude…really commendable advice.
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//AMAZING dude......really commendable advice.//
Amazing friend .....
Go around carrying the belt bomb..It will bring u peace or atleast pis#
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
I’ll ask you the same question if your family gets kicked out of your home, your money taken away, your lands occupied by deception and illegitimate means, your temples broken, your women raped, then I’d see how would you not carry a belt bomb. Oh yeah, then I’d say, “learn to live in PEACE”…don’t herbour hatred about others… Yeah right, that would be right…
Carrying a belt bomb is an act of straightforwardness, telling others, we hate you the most. What do you guys do, you Hindus… stabbing in the back. Lacking courage to say things on the face, coward rats… attack while someone is sleeping and in a way that does not harm your “Shareer and Atma”
Oh, sorry, I forgot. You don’t care about anything, right? You are not emotional about religion or your right, Right? People call name to your faith, insult you, doesn’t matter. You are dheet and besharam…you don’t even care if someone sells your mother…
How does that sound to you now. Now put yourself in the shoes of Palsatinians and think logically…
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
You need some fresh air dude 
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^ Yeah coz when it comes to backstabber, the only country you could think of is Israel.
I don't think we should let other countries influence our foreign policy but we do have to be careful because if sucide bombers start going off in Pakistan then it is the worst nightmare we could ever imagine. Friendship with Israel can bring great things to Pakistan economy and publicity wise but it has its implications.
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^^ You mean Arrabobs and other MAToos will start exploding in Pakistan.
Hey let them explode. Khas kum Jahaan Paak.
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
such as?
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
If only the Saud's weren't so corrupt, the world would have been much different today.
Re: Musharraf missed many good opportunities in his jewish debut
You mean they should have killed Osama instead of gifting him to Afghanistan and Pakistan?