Musharraf mismanaged US Aid

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If Zardari recovers that loot from Musharraf, he can have his 10%, 90% is better than nothing!!

ISLAMABAD: Co-chairman Pakistan People’s Party, Asif Ali Zardari has disclosed that President Pervez Musharraf attempted to sabotage the present set up due to which the government was forced to take an extreme measure of his impeachment.

In his interview to a UK based newspaper, he also disclosed that his government would investigate the appropriation of American aid given for supporting the war on terror.

Zardari said the Army was only receiving about a quarter of the $1 billion annual funds from the US.

He said the army was only getting 250-300 million dollars and that the loss of the remaining 700 million dollars was not something to be taken lightly. He added that the official explanation was that the money had gone towards budget support.

He asserted that his party was actively looking for the money.

When questioned about the new drive towards impeachment, Zarari says he offered Musharraf an honourable exit that the latter had refused. Zardari claims he was left with no choice but to go along with Nawaz Sharif’s more aggressive approach.

Zardari accuses Musharraf of misappropriating US aid - GEO.tv

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He did not say the same infront of US ambassadar or foreign media. why? because it just didn't happen. This is just a local political stunt. Frankly I don't know what these guys are upto.

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It doesnt matter if he said that to the US ambassador or not, this interview to the british press will make sure the ambassadors know about it. It doesnt matter what zardari is upto either, thats not the concern, the concern is where all this money that Musharraf mismanaged went to.

Timepass -April 2012
Timepass -April 2012
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I just cannot believe the day has come when Zardari is blaming others about misappropriation of funds! The death of Benzir Bhutto has turned everything topsyturvy. Navas Sharief has gone from a "me too" to "most powerful", Zardari from cypher to king maker, Musharaf from king to pauper!

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ah, now I know why Zardari is after Mush :cb:

I think Mush should give him his due share and take a silent exit (well silent is no more).

OTOH, NAB should take action and hopefully someone is tapping conversation between Zardari and Musharraf about “where`s my share, dude?”

Timepass -April 2012
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he did not. If he did, guess who will be the first one to shout?
US of A.

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These are quite serious allegations. Why don't Mush address the nation to clerify where the money has gone? If he can not then 'dal main kuch kala hay'.

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Robert, remember the US aid for the Afghans... after the war was over, it was then realized how alot of it was mismanaged, and Generals became millionaires overnight. There were US reports about Musharrafs aid mismanagement too, but the Govt kept quiet as they could not afford to make Mushy accountable at a volatile time. Ultimately, they wont spare this mismanagement sooner or later, but there wont be a Mush to make accountable, they would take it out on the nation's credibility instead.

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Of course Zardari is wondering where the money went.
He didn't get his 10% !

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US of A did say something about it, but US of A wouldn't really be concerned about whether the money is making to exchequer or a few generals only as long as their "to-do-list" is being addressed.

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Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

US reimbursements to Pakistan allow for no ‘slush funds’
** 10-step multi-tiered system put in place by US, Pakistan govts to process CSF transactions

By Khalid Hasan*

WASHINGTON: Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) Co-chairman Asif Zardari’s accusation in a Sunday Times interview that President Pervez Musharraf diverted United States funds meant to aid the war on terror into some slush fund to aid rogue members of the military intelligence, has been greeted with disbelief on Monday by those who know how the system actually works.

The total security and economic-related funds received from the US since 2001 total $11.25 billion. The security-related funds amount to $8.13 billion, out of which $5.93 billion represents Coalition Support Funds (CSF), which is the reimbursement for actual expenditure incurred by Pakistan in support of the war against terrorism.

Every dollar paid out is carefully scrutinised and accounted for, leaving no room for any money being siphoned off, as has been alleged.

Zardari’s unsubstantiated allegation comes at a time of deepening political crisis. This can only damage the country’s image and lend strength to lobbies that have been propagating that Pakistan has not kept its end of the bargain and that the money that has gone to Islamabad from Washington has been put to questionable uses, apart from having failed to benefit the people.

The CSF is made up of claims made by the Government of Pakistan on the basis of military and security operations undertaken by the defence services in connection with the war on terror on the one hand, and reimbursement for logistical facilities afforded to the NATO Coalition forces in Afghanistan.

Multi-tiered system: An intricate, 10-step multi-tiered system has been put in place by the two governments to process the transactions. The reimbursement claim entered under CSF is gone over by a special unit based in the US embassy in Islamabad known as Office of the Defence Representative in Pakistan (ODRP), currently headed by an admiral. The US ambassador validates the claim, which is then sent to CENTCOM headquarters in Florida, which passes it on after satisfying itself that all is in order.

Congressional and Pentagon approvals have to be obtained before the money is released, not to the Pakistan Army but the Government of Pakistan or the national exchequer.

Above is an article in Daily Times which clarifies Zardari’s accusation may not stand anywhere as the reimbursement is made to Govt (national exchequer) and not to some army account.

Timepass -April 2012
Timepass -April 2012
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Now thats enough that , one non governmental man blaming the president of world Muslim atomic power country . is true or false the coming time will tell ,, but for Pakistan its not fair,, we are going down ,

now it is request to all polictician plz think for Pakistan also ,

Gaali or calling names in different languages
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I know its in fashion, to blame Musharraf for all the evil in the world, but one should
A. consider the source
B. realize being accused is not equal to being guilty
C. check facts, or atleast see the odds of that happening

For example, as I said before blaming musharraf for eating from the US funds, is simply nonsense. US could (would) never have allowed that. They know where money is spent and while they may be upset on how Musharraf planned to carry out this war on terror, there was never a doubt or question, if funds are used anywhere other than this war. That is until, Mr. Asif Zardari opened his mouth, and started cooking up things that nobody smelled for last 7 years. pls check this http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\08\12\story_12-8-2008_pg1_13

Similarly blaming Musharraf of living in army house is rediculous. why? because he has his own house in rawalpindi (outside of presidential residence).

one more example was that army guy who blamed Musharraf of using chemical gas on lal masjid folks. I bet this guy also believed in rosewell crash at site 51.

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Where is he residing these days? Is it in his personal house or presidential or army (COAS) house? The blame is that he is in army house while not being entitled for it (as it is reserved for COAS?).

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presidential house, offcourse.

Following will be the biggest noise-makers if the above was true
1. Nawaz (looking for anything that can hurt Pres.)
2. Zardari (would be much easier charge to prove, than US aid corruption)
3. Gen Kyani (He is the one living in army house rightnow)
4. Qazi (always there to make noise)
5. Imran Khan (goes where Qazi goes)
6. Ch Eitezaz (living in army house for an ex-army person is yet another voilation of constitution)

shukriya

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Read article here. Following is the para from the link:

“He is no more Army chief but he is still living in the Army House of Rawalpindi. He has declared it as the President’s Camp Office. He is continuously meeting leaders of the PML-Q there even after their humiliating defeat in the February elections. He never respected the verdict of the people expressed through the ballot. His “forced” stay in the Army House is generally not liked by many Army officers.”

and here:
"Musharraf’s camp office, the Army House also remained hub of activities the whole day as the president consulted his lawyers for possible action against the government or assemblies. "

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Despite all the checks-and-balances built within this reimbursement system, it will be a very naive person who believes that every penny from this massive US reimbursement scheme was used for the desired purpose. Of course, parts of it, big parts of it may be, were embezzled. However, it can’t really be so big like Zaradari made it out to be, and it can’t all be going to one person (Mushy). There is always a hierarchy of folks who share in the loot.

What Zardari is doing is throwing the kitchen sink at Mushy, to see if any thing sticks. Quite possible that Zaradari pulled this one out of his arse. Problem is that more than harming Mushy, these kinds of statements create immense problems for the country internationally (all other aid donors become wary). But naturally we can not expect a greedy vadera like Zaradari to know the nuances of international politics.

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If you think hes not living in the army house, you are very ‘off’ my friend…

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Zardari being an expert at embezzlement may know more than you about ways money can be siphoned off ;)