Tehreek-e-Insaaf are funny.
Well to be honest Imran Khan is funny. I like the social worker Imran Khan. Not the political activist.
What the dude says is true but he doesn't have any plan or solutions. He just criticizes everyone.
Not that I am a particular supporter of Imran Khan and believe he has some viable solutions for pakistan's problems...
Can you name another political leader who does have a plan or solutions from the present lot...???
Not that I am a particular supporter of Imran Khan and believe he has some viable solutions for pakistan's problems...
Can you name another political leader who does have a plan or solutions from the present lot...???
I don't know if you read the earlier posts in this thread but I'm a pro-Mush so yea according to me Mush is Pak's solution.
Well regarding Imran Khan, I sometimes like the dude but at times its like....wtf Imran?
Imran khan supported Musharraf in 1999 and in 2002 even though Mush had broken the constitution but he only realized that after some time. I don't know what was going on in his head during those 3 years.
He preaches democracy one day but gives a vote to mullahs the next. His choice of candidate for prime minister was Maulana Fazlur Rehman from MMA. Is Imran actually a mullah at heart? If he preaches democracy so much then why doesn't he hold elections within his own party?
Khan was a critic of NS when NS was in power calling him a fascist. Yet, he joined forces with him in 2008 against Musharraf.
Imran says he believes in justice which is why he called his party ‘Tehrik-e-insaaf’. Yet he does not accept the judgment of Los Angeles court.
Basically my point being, Imran says something but does something else.
And lastly I hate the fact that he goes to foreign countries and criticizes Pak's govt. Pakistans problems should remain within the country. The outside world must not know of our problems. He should try to promote a positive image of Pakistan abroad rather than criticize the current govt, Zardari, Mush, NS, Bhutto, MQM........
Every interview you watch of his, he is pointing fingers at someone.
He preaches democracy one day but gives a vote to mullahs the next. His choice of candidate for prime minister was Maulana Fazlur Rehman from MMA. Is Imran actually a mullah at heart? If he preaches democracy so much then why doesn't he hold elections within his own party?
I don't want to digress, but isn't voting very essence of a democracy? Also, does democracy means that you should only vote for secular parties?
As for him not holding elections in his party. All parties in Pakistan hold internal party elections its just they keep elected same leaders. JI is the only exception.
I don't want to digress, but isn't voting very essence of a democracy? Also, does democracy means that you should only vote for secular parties?
I'm not arguing that. I don't support MMA and I don't like their views. They are pro-Taleban and I don't like their narrow interpretation of Islam and their conservative views on women, education, and television. If you like their views then you are most welcome to vote for them.
Imran Khan supports them which is why I will not give my vote to him, as simple as that.
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As for him not holding elections in his party. All parties in Pakistan hold internal party elections its just they keep elected same leaders. JI is the only exception.
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Well thats not a reason for him not to hold elections within his own party especially when he is an ardent supporter of democracy.
Rule of thumb: practice what you preach.
I don't know if you read the earlier posts in this thread but I'm a pro-Mush so yea according to me Mush is Pak's solution. .
Can you explain why he didn't solve Pakistan's problems in 9 1/2 years when he did get an opportunity as one and only exclusive decision maker for the country... what different he can do now given an opportunity which he didn't do in those 9 1/2 years when all the institutions were being destroyed one by one replaced by personal one man incompetent governance... in spite of the huge opportunity he had after 9/11 when over a 40 billion dollars of foreign debt was rescheduled for over 20 years interest free with no obligation to pay back anything for 20 long years..
The terrorist suicide attacks were almost non existent with almost no militant groups occupying Pakistani territory when he took over in 1999... when he left in 2008, there were over a 100 terrorist attacks in one year with Swat, Waziristan, and several other places in Pakistan practically under the occupation of these militant groups attacking Pakistani urban centers on almost daily basis from their strongholds... destroying pakistani economy, killing pakistani innocent people...
It will be interesting for me to see how you will justify the illegal dictator who could not see an inch beyond his own survival in all those years... As far as I am concerned Zia ul haq and Mush are two worse things ever happened to Pakistan...!!!
My friend we will never achieve anything in this country if we justify criminality and illegality of these army dictators... and the destruction and misery which resulted because of these tenures.. it will take years to unwind the damage they have imparted in Pakistan..
Have a nice day...!!!
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I’ve had enough of one decade of destruction Mush brought to Pakistan. No more please.
The mush-era ‘economic boom’ is a myth. It was brought about by massive government borrowing and promoting non-value-adding sectors i.e. telecom and banking. While the telecom companies flourished and banks made maddening profits, the manufacturing and agricultural sectors doomed. Billions of dollars spent on importing telecom related equipment could easily have been channeled into manufacturing or agriculture boosting long term economic growth. The banks should have been forced to lend at lower cost to MFG and AGR. The telecom firms are moreover easily allowed to repatriate profits to their parent companies, leeching Pakistani economy.
This is an interesting analysis by an accomplished Economic Historian. Pages 5 to 7 explain what I am trying to say.
As for the ‘war on terror’, well, it was Mushy’s time that TTP rose to such power and Baluch separatists gained momentum.
Politics – well, it thrived on ethnic and provincial sentiments and differences between provinces had never been so severe as in Mushy’s time. NRO?
I don’t really find anything positive happening. It truly was a ‘lost decade’.
P.S. For a more ‘politically correct’ analysis: Kaiser Bengali explains the Economic performance of Shaukat Aziz - Teeth Maestro
Yeah, let’s forget about the lost decade, we have so much to gain under Zardari and then Nawaz Sharif…Next decade belongs to Hamza Sharif and Bilawal Bhutto Zardari…So much to look forward to
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Yesterday Dunya Mere Agay (nusrat Javed & Mustaq Manhoos) went to APML HQ and meet the members, watch here:
http://www.awaztoday.com/playvideo.asp?pageId=9344
or here:
http://pkpolitics.com/2010/06/24/dunya-meray-agay-24-june-2010/
I've had enough of one decade of destruction Mush brought to Pakistan. No more please.
The mush-era 'economic boom' is a myth.
perfect crap, me and millions others were alive in those days which you are calling myth. I and countless others i know made huge fortune in those days.
The day Musharraf resign, your stock market crashed - now well some will argue its was fake .. well let me assure when i made & lost money it was real not the one printed at home.
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^ Making and losing money on gambling doesn't count. Stock market or real estate bubbles (where you and countless other made huge fortune) cannot be described as economic boom, specially with 25% inflation in the economy.
^ Making and losing money on gambling doesn't count. Stock market or real estate bubbles (where you and countless other made huge fortune) cannot be described as economic boom, specially with 25% inflation in the economy.
stock market, real estate bubble is only created when the economy is growing and getting over heated. If you can't control the growth then you get electricity/raw material/inflation and bubble bursts.
Well said :k:
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May be if Altaf Hussein dies, Mushy can become the next fascist politician.
May be if Altaf Hussein dies, Mushy can become the next fascist politician.
dont' we have enough already ...for ex.. Altaf Bahi, Imran Khan, Munawar Hussain, Nawaz, President Zardari .... ...etc..etc..
stock market, real estate bubble is only created when the economy is growing and getting over heated. If you can't control the growth then you get electricity/raw material/inflation and bubble bursts.
:D
Thank you for your enlightening lesson.
President Bush should get a Gold Medal for economic brilliance if that is the case!
blame it to the person :k:
why don’t you just accept that the system, the laws always kept changing. What causes recession and plumbing of global economy were debated and new laws & regulations are being created and the circle continues until the fault lines come again in few decades.
New financial bill which is set to approve in coming days by both houses in Washington, will change the way Global Financial system work.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703615104575328430427126018.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEADNewsCollection
I don't know if you read the earlier posts in this thread but I'm a pro-Mush so yea according to me Mush is Pak's solution. : Basically my point being, Imran says something but does something else.
As if Musharraf is honest. NRO rings bells? Is making deals with criminals a good example? I am no Imran's fan but a harsh critic of anyone who does wrongs.
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Resorting to irrelevant rambling, are we?
When you can credit bubbles to Mushy, why can’t I credit them to Bushy? 
Please demonstrate REAL growth/development in manufacturing/agriculture in Pakistan during Mushy’s time, Respond to Professor Ali’s analysis, or keep quiet.
As you have just said, bubbles and recessions (specially in speculative markets like stocks or real estate) are not caused by individuals, keep them away from the debate, shall we?
yayyyyy..im all for musharraf!
Agree with u 100%. The myth of economic boom during the mushy time was largely due to $2billion+ per year handout by uncle sam. Most of the money was meant to fight terrorism but he played double games. he took money from uncle sam on one hand and did nothing about the talibans, we are suffering the consequences of his double game now! Its funny how an army general ends up with million+ pounds condo in UK! Not to mention farm houses in isloo.