Musharraf Is Not the Rogue that Benazir Was

Interesting Article.

It does shed some interesting light on the current situation in Pakistan and shows that there are some people who are taking a more even handed approach to the whole matter

Musharraf Is Not the Rogue; Benazir Was

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=105366&d=7&m=1&y=2008

President Pervez Musharraf gets a bad press; Benazir Bhutto a too kind one. Which of them is the real rogue?

When Musharraf, as Pakistan’s top army commander, tried to engineer war with India over Kashmir in 1999 he demonstrated his roguish side.

Yet even many of his opponents in Pakistan will concede that since he deposed Nawaz Sharif and assumed power he has been largely a benevolent dictator.

Compared with last days of the Shah — and many in the American foreign policy establishment are falsely comparing what happened then with what is happening today in Pakistan — the country remained until this assassination rather stable, except in its lawless frontier provinces that border Afghanistan, a problem area even in British colonial days. Until now Musharraf has rarely cracked the whip. His riot police act with relative moderation. His jails are not full. Executions are rare and never for political offences. When one sits down and talks with Musharraf one get answers rather than bluster. Pakistan today is not Iran of yesterday, neither in the type of leadership nor in its degree of religious fervor: the Islamist parties have never gained more than 11% of the vote in a free election.

Bhutto and her husband seem to be manifestly corrupt. The one chance of nailing her lay in Switzerland where she had stashed cash in quantities she could never have earned honestly. At the time of her death she was appealing a Swiss conviction for money laundering. Many believe she was implicated in her brother’s death. Certainly she quarreled with both her brothers and her mother, all of whom competed to have the lead billing in the family’s political drama. She also was estranged from her husband. Yet now, according to her will, her husband was her chosen successor. For Bhutto keeping the family — to wit her 19-year-old son — in the line of power was more important that developing a democratic, openly competitive, party. We still don’t know if her father was blameless in the political murder that saw him hanged.

Nor must we forget that it was her father who started the nuclear weapons’ project and swore that if need be “the people will eat grass” in order to make that possible. In comparison, Musharraf has done no great favors for his family, nor earned excessive wealth. He is a down to earth army man, who when younger loved to test his macho side. It was under Musharraf that Pakistan extended the olive branch to India over Kashmir. Manmohan Singh, India’s prime minister, praised Bhutoo as someone who had wanted to break the “sterile patterns of the past” that had brought them to war three times over the disputed province of Kashmir. But this was a gratuitous back handed slap at Musharraf. Singh knows as well as anyone that the Kashmir dispute is grounded for lack of Indian resolve to go the last mile. He also knows that the militancy that plagues the region, spreading its infection into Afghanistan and to the frontier provinces of north western Pakistan originates in large part among the fighters who first engaged in violence in Kashmir in an attempt to oust the Indian presence.

There is no doubt that the Pakistani military was in large measure responsible for developing this infection when it built up the strength of the mujahideen in Kashmir. It provided training. It helped with logistics and provided military materials over a long period of time.

But, apart from clandestine, illegal work, by some local Pakistani military and intelligence officials, this support network has been closed down by Musharraf. This doesn’t stop the militants drawing their military requirements from elsewhere, nor stop them organizing a big bombing from time to time in India.

Nor does it stop them working with the Taleban and the other militants of north west Pakistan. In their eyes India has designs on Afghanistan and is the enemy to all Islamic militant movements.

A peace agreement on the lines proposed by Musharraf- which most Western diplomats will tell you is as handsome an offer as they ever imagined- would shut down Kashmir-grown militancy once and for all. The militants are no longer as popular as they were inside Kashmir and the proposed peace deal would finally pull the carpet from beneath them.

Moreover, it would be a singular contribution to lessening all Pakistani-based terrorism. Why doesn’t Singh do it? Because of pressures from his own military. Because of the aspiring great power role of the foreign policy establishment that can’t bear to treat Pakistan as an equal.

Because of the ultra chauvinism of Singh’s coalition partners, the Communists. Because the priority with the Communists on policy is to persuade them to agree to the pending nuclear deal with the US.

But now Musharraf is losing political strength all bets are off. Pakistan itself may be consumed by this infection of militancy

Re: Musharraf Is Not the Rogue that Benazir Was

Already posted somewhere i think.

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Its a friggin 3rd world country, they're all corrupt. Infact Pakistan is much more corrupt today, then it was before. But never was a country so divided as it id today or in such a disarray and low morale as today. And his SOB doesn't give a rat's ass about any of that. Never has, never will. He's just woried if he leaves he'll be despised and hated and he's worried about his legacy. The fool does not know that the longer he stays the more he will be hated lest he does another 180 degree turn lolz. The real fear is wil there stil be Pakistan if he does not leave?

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It's amazing how people forget 1971. Where is East Pakistan now?

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Many of us were not even born when 71 took place buddy. But wise a nation which learns its lessons from the past. The reasons which led to the founding of Pakistan led to the founding of Bangladesh. Let's make sure that does not happen again.

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LOL. Your above two statements speak volumes about your knowledge of Pakistan, and only remembering what you want to remember. The fact that you were not born in 1971 does not mean it did not happen. You are in denial, just like people that believe Hitler did not kill millions of Jews. :)

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Of-course he is benevolent. Pakistan has seen Uprecdented Development under President Musharaf’s great leadership, unlike the so-called civilian leaders of the nation that took it bankruptcy.

God Bless Pakistan. God Bless President Musharaf. Long may he continue. :k:

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What? Where did I state that 71 did not happen? LOL

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Well, obviously you would like to see a repeat of1971... Why try to hide your contempt for Pakistan, say it proudly!

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:rotfl:

Unprecendented growth..

Just bnecause you werent alive during the Zia and Ayub eras, doesnt mean growth never occured… This “growth” has occured many times before with the blessing of American funding, but each time the same has happened, more misery… The same will happen again after this incompetant ignoramous..

Pakistan Zindabad, God curse Mushu, and long may he continue to suffer…:k:

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You didnt, Aalsi just doesnt read or write anything beyond a single line... You have to give him single sentance replies, or none at all:)

I doubt he will read what I wrote up there, but atleast other Mush supporters will get too..:D

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Yet you blindly support PPP, what does it say?

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Again, I dont know anyone here who is openly supporting any political party.. Except for the few Altaf worshipers on the forum...

But unlike you people, we support the country while Mush supporters blindly support Mush.

Honestly, how do you sleep at night knowing that you are supporting a man who is destroying the country?

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^ Funny coming from you that openly supports sardari run commie era outfits like BLA?

How do you sleep?

PS People like Sultan Toora and Farid have indicated their preference of a party aka PPP.

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I sleep comfortably in my bed knowing I am supporting the right cause...

I never said I supported Sardari system, but neither do I support criminal theft and looting of a provinces resources at the expense of her people...

You dont support people... You support a dictator against his own people and claim to love a country, all while supporting someone who is bent on destroying it.

Now go off and cry about how you Mohajirs have been abused, and pray they dont come and do the same to you what they did to your 6000 MQM terrorist youth...

Later Bachu jii...Hope you sleep well.

PS, really? How have they indictated it? By posting a article on how Zardari told people to not chant slogans against Pakistan? That constitutes support?
If your Altaf ghunda ever said something worth posting, I would post his bs too, but that doesnt mean I support him...
Anyways, anyone is better then that chamcha Musharaf... Even Zardari is a nice change from the BS of this govt.

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You seem to have no qualm when quota system and feds come and snatch stuff from karachi? Or are you a living proof of the british idiom that said to get work done you always beat a punjabi?

PS Nice going with zardari a " nice pace of change" ! :D

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Nope, sorry I dont feel sorry for rich kids... You said yourself you people own all the bussines in the country... So that doesnt seem like someone who is suffering to me?!?!

LOL... Zardari, Nawaz, ghenghis Khan, Santa Clause the tooth fairy... Anyone could do a better job then this corrupt dictator.

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Rich kid? hahahha..

You have the nerve to come and talk when you come from an army family! I am a middle class person who has seen first hand the haram hori of our army. If you were not a rich kid yourself, you would've seen what **** has been done to karachi over the last 60 years!

PS Yes, that is before your MQM came over. There was no MQM in the seventies or the sixties when gohar ayub came and shot mahajirs for supporting the sister of Jinnah! :)

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History for these new age kids start after Mush took over and started fighting jihadis. They don't know who or what fatima jinnah was.

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how can someone think that mush is better than anyone in the world in any aspect. :mad: :mad2:

“main na manoon group” , lagh jaoo kam per …oops they are already on KAM :slight_smile: