Musharraf disowned by Pakistan's ruling party

:rotfl: The final nail in the coffin, everyone abandoning the sinking ship.

** Musharraf disowned by Pakistan’s ruling party**

Pakistan’s ruling party distanced itself from President Pervez Musharraf’s policies yesterday as his popularity ratings plummeted three days ahead of the general election.

Shujaat Hussain, the president of the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q), told The Daily Telegraph that he had disagreed with a series of major decisions taken by Mr Musharraf’s government over the past five years.
Mr Hussain, whose party was cobbled together to prop up the Musharraf military regime and which formed a government after elections in 2002, is making a last ditch attempt to woo conservative voters prior to Monday’s poll.
Mr Musharraf, who stepped down as army chief two months ago, is not competing in the vote as he secured his re-election at the end of last year after sacking the judiciary. However the poll is crucial to his political survival as he may face impeachment from a hostile parliament.
Mr Hussain said that he would reverse Mr Musharraf’s US-driven policy by seeking a political solution to a conflict in the tribal area of Waziristan, where the Pakistani army is battling militants linked to the Taliban and al-Qa’eda.

“We believe that politics rather than force will resolve the issue,” he said. “It is the only answer.”
Mr Hussain was careful not to criticise Mr Musharraf directly, saying that he had “done his level best” at a time when President George W Bush had been “very aggressive” in coercing Pakistan to support the US-led war on terror.
He also blamed last year’s massacre when commandos stormed Islamabad’s radical Red Mosque, killing more than one hundred militants and students, including girls, “on a mistake from the administration”.
In order to divest himself of the blame for the assault, which provoked Osama bin Laden to swear vengeance, Mr Hussain met the mosque’s surviving mullah this week.
From their rural stronghold of Gujrat, Mr Hussain has risen to dominate Pakistan’s politics alongside Pervaiz Elahi, who is his first cousin and the party’s candidate for prime minister.
They have drawn strength from their Jat biradri, or caste group. More than a dozen of their close relatives are standing as parliamentary candidates for the PML-Q; and according to Dawn newspaper, members of their clan make up nearly a quarter of the party’s regional candidates in Punjab.
They claim their wealth stems from the family’s textile business but have not been able to escape the perception that they have prospered under the Musharraf regime.
Speaking from inside the family’s large white porticoed folly that lies on the banks of the Chenab river, Mr Hussain modestly conceded that his party had enabled Mr Musharraf to continue as president.
But it is yet to be seen whether the party and Mr Musharraf, who has now lost his main constituency - the army - will be able to survive without each other.
The “Q”, as the party is known, is beset by allegations of poll-rigging and disunity, and has been blamed for food and energy shortages. Rejecting the allegations of electoral fraud, however, Mr Hussain, claimed that it would win an electoral majority.
He added that he would be willing to enter a power-sharing deal with Asif Ali Zardari, the widower of the assassinated Benazir Bhutto, and her Pakistan’s People’s Party, despite a bloody feud between the two families.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/16/wpakistan116.xml

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^^^ I agree. EVen his best known chamchas think he is a political liability for them. :smiley:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/world/asia/16pstan.html?ref=world

RAWALPINDI, Pakistan — A veteran politician, Sheik Rashid Ahmed is a close friend of President Pervez Musharraf and served as a minister in his cabinet for the last five years. Yet on the campaign trail in this, his hometown, before Monday’s parliamentary elections, he never mentions the president once.
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“I remind them of my successes,” he said between campaign stops, puffing on a cigar inside an armored car, which he uses because of the threat of suicide bombers. “Of course, the popularity of President Musharraf is not the same” as it once was, he added.

After 10 months of political turmoil, in fact, Mr. Musharraf is so unpopular that members of his own party, the Pakistan Muslim League-Q, are distancing themselves from the president, candidates and party officials admit.

A billboard of Mr. Musharraf along the main highway outside the capital, Islamabad, was taken down recently, and in Mr. Ahmed’s district, a neighborhood of narrow streets and small shops plastered with election posters, there is not a picture to be seen of the president.

Mr. Ahmed, a genuinely popular politician with working-class roots who has run in seven elections for the national assembly, insisted that the absence of Musharraf posters in his district meant nothing. “All my life I never used posters of Musharraf,” or of other leaders, Mr. Ahmed said. “I contest with my photo.”

But he keeps his campaigning strictly to local issues, hugging shopkeepers, kissing babies and talking almost entirely about the schools, hospitals and traffic and sewage improvements that he has made or is planning.

He avoids mention of Mr. Musharraf or of the more unpopular policies of the government, which he and other party members admit have damaged their election chances.

“We had four good years, and last year was a bad year,” said Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed, secretary general of the party. “Mistakes were made, I have said that.”

Among them, he says, was the suspension last year of the Supreme Court chief justice, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, which prompted a protest from lawyers’ associations around the country, the clampdown on the media, and the imposition of emergency rule in November.

The assassination of the former prime minister, Benazir Bhutto, in December also caused an angry backlash against the government, Mr. Sayed said. “We have had a bit of a battering.”

Perhaps most of all, sudden price rises in the last few months have hurt the government, Mr. Ahmed said. That was a trend worldwide, but the government was being blamed for it, he said. Mr. Musharraf is expected, under the Constitution, to remain above the fray of parliamentary elections. Yet his current low profile is a striking contrast to his public appearances just months ago.

The Pakistan Muslim League-Q party, which stands for Qaid-e-Azam, after the founder of Pakistan, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, was cobbled together in 2002 by Mr. Musharraf, who needed a loyal government.

It was formed from the remnants of the Pakistan Muslim League, after its leader, the former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, was imprisoned and then exiled. Other independent members of Parliament were persuaded to join, but the party has always been more an alliance of convenience.

Pakistani analysts are now predicting that the party, which has dominated both houses of the national assembly and three of the four provincial assemblies, will fare poorly in Monday’s elections and will not garner enough seats to form a government.

With the election campaign in its last week, party leaders have tried to distance themselves from Mr. Musharraf’s most controversial actions, which are being attacked, in particular by the main opposition figure, Mr. Sharif, who returned from exile in late November and still leads his own faction of the Pakistan Muslim League.

Mr. Sayed said the disgraced nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan, who is a national hero in Pakistan for helping build the country’s nuclear bomb, but has been under house arrest for selling nuclear technology to other countries, should be freed.

Mr. Chaudhry, the deposed chief justice, and the leaders of the lawyers’ movement, including the president of the Supreme Court Bar Association, Aitzaz Ahsan, should also be freed from house arrest, he said. Mr. Ahmed said he faced difficulty in five or six wards in his district among religious followers and ethnic Pashtuns who opposed military operations in the tribal areas. “I tell them: ‘We want to talk to you. We don’t want to fight you,’ ” he said. “But they are very upset.”

“People were telling me to go independent,” he said. “But I was with the man for five years,” he said of Mr. Musharraf, who he says is a personal friend. “We smoke cigars together. He gives me cigars. Mostly from Cuba.”

Salman Masood contributed reporting.

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Does this mean great President Musharaf's days are numbered. :)

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Heavens no, after all he won the elections by 95% of the votes cast, making him as popular as Mubarik and saddam. great president great company unprecedented greatness, how can anyone think of removing him?

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He will try to survive with his new partner...Zardari...mark my words...

Scenario 1...Elections are rigged and PML Q gets almost outright majority to form the government...

Highly unlikely...as there will be wide spread agitation....global condemnation..and illegal President will not be able to survive...

Scenario 2...Elections are not rigged and PPP/PML N get in a position to make a coalition government...

Highly unlikely as they will both get together and try to get rid of the dictator...does not suit the illegal President..

Scenario 3...Illegal President strikes a deal with Zardari....rigs the election in favour of PPP...in return gets their pledge that they will retain him as the President...in this case elections will be rigged in favour of PPP to give them enough seats to form govt. independently...and PML Q will sit in the opposition...nobody will agitate...

Highly likely scenario...will be the only bet for the survival of the illegal President of Pakistan...

Conclusion: Elections are going to be rigged in favour of PPP....will make new partnership with Zardari.... looking at his past record the retired commando is capable of sinking as low as possible...to save his kursi..

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:omg:

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Aap kai moo mai ghee shakar. :D

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You know this answer better than anyone on this forum. I am sorry for you that many of your friends have left you in lurch and alone. You’re the Lone Ranger for Mush now. Keep it up. I hope Tonto and Silver will never leave you.:D

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I agree that scenario number 3 looks the most likely. The election certainly would seem fair and free if PPP were to seep the polls. With Zardari calling the shots, it certainly seems likely that a deal might take place. If that were to happen, would we see another splintering of the PPP? I know Babar Awan said that once in power they would try to remove Mushy, but Zardai's statements seem quite ambivalent on the issue.

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i agree. :)

These people are funny. Some times they brace for a loss by simply assuming there is rigging going on. Other times they are exchanging ladoo at the propsect of musharrafs downfall. They have no idea what will happen when musharraf goes but they just want the old nawaz era back it seems. Why would anyone want that?

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Highly unlikely. Ruling party PMLQ will never allow this. According to IRI polls, opposition parties (PPP + PML N) to Mush will win landslide victory. So the question of rigging by winning parties does not make sense. PPP has already indicated that Mush will be out if PPP wins so your apprehension of helping PPP by Mush does not make sense.

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If you look at the 88 elections, PPP despite their huge popularity won only 38% of the NA seats and had to make a coalition government. While people might like the PPP as a whole, they will still vote for the big known guys in the vast majority of the constituencies like the Sherpaos, the Khosas, the Faisal Saleh Hayats/Abida Husseins of their areas. Once again, Zardari has been ambivalent at best about his plans for Mushy once the PPP is in power. If Zardari were to make a deal with Mush, it would make sense that if any rigging were to take place, it should be massively in favor of the PPP. If you consider the first post, it seems that Q might be falling out of favour with the presidency fast. A sign of things to come?

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Excellent post. You seem to understand the actual personalities and power politics at work in Pakistan.

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Yaar, what can one say about people who are living in world of their own. Just imagine, these people would write that Musharraf is dictator and at the same time would write that he needs a political party to continue in power :).

How can one make them understand that a dictator does not need a political party or people's vote to survive. Only a democrat needs a political party and people's vote to survive :). Both cannot be true, that is, a person is dictator and still needs political party and people's vote to survive in office. :)

So either they accept that Musharraf is a democrat and his power is power of people and he depends on political parties and public support to survive ... OR ... accept that Musharraf is dictator and thus his strength is military, so he does not need any support of political party or public backing to hold on to power, rather it is political parties that need his support to form government.

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People like the dictator Mush :cb:
http://www.dawn.com/2008/02/16/ed.htm

Musharraf’s outbursts

PRESIDENT Musharraf is now so totally divorced from reality that he finds it difficult to accept the fact that his popularity ratings are slumping. He therefore feels he is within his right to warn the people of Pakistan against consequences yet to be defined if things don’t go the way he thinks they should post Feb 18. For starters, Mr Musharraf doesn’t like the opinion polls, which make it all too clear that all and sundry simply dislike him and possibly even his progeny with a passion that escapes calculation. He thinks, immersed in the positive reinforcement supplied by a fast diminishing group of yes-men (even flunkeys have a modicum of sense and an eye cocked to the future), that these opinion polls are biased, influenced by NGOs of devious bent and similar anti-social elements capable of independent and rational thought. What exactly is he threatening, you and me being the audience, when he says that putting him in a “bind” would be inadvisable? How, precisely, will he lash out? Remember that Mr Musharraf’s worst has already been seen. Consider also that he no longer commands the army, an institution that now follows the dictates of a man seemingly of far more sober an outlook. So what does putting Musharraf in a “bind” really entail? Please explain that, Mr President. Are we to expect state-sponsored violence if things don’t go your way?

Pakistan is not alone in suffering dictators and insecure midget-men who seem convinced that they are the chosen saviours. Yet we do get more than our fair share of these tinpots. Why is that? One, you can’t escape the fact that the people of Pakistan (quite incredibly) still haven’t lost all faith in the inherent goodness of the Pakistan Army. That’s a given, like it or not. So it is that people as patently mediocre as Pervez Musharraf can rise to great heights and shout from the pulpits at any given time and in a manner which would get you and me arrested in the Islamic republic. Two, we have suffered fools for way too long without doing anything about it. Three, because our mindset as a people and a nation is not revolutionary, at least no longer, we deserve ‘leaders’ even as controversial as Asif Zardari. Think about that before you vote.

Fear and loathing, to quote Hunter Thompson, is how the pre-election sentiment can best be described. Hyderabad started shutting down on Thursday and Karachi will follow on Saturday. The Frontier, Balochistan and Punjab will no doubt follow the dictates of their own peculiar exigencies. Already food is in short supply across the country.

Feb 18 is being viewed with trepidation, not hope. What an irony.

http://www.dawn.com/2008/02/16/ed.htm

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He is perfectly capable of doing that, remember 3 Nov when he held the whole nation hostage in order to save his kursi. He can do anything to save his kursi.

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Hosni Mubarak is as democratic as one can be :k:

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^ Yup, both him and Mush get 95% of the votes cast. :rotfl:

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Things have changed drastically since 1988. PPP and PML N wants army should be out of politics for all time to come. Mush blind following of uncle sam, murdering own people in the name of jehadis and after untimely demise of BB, people don't want military to rule the country any more. If this would not happen I am afraid situation like 1971 will follow.

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You are so right. Difference is that people in Egypt are not as dumb as Pakistanis. Egyptians do not say that if ‘Party A’ would win Hosni Mubarak would get impeached or would get in trouble and that if ‘Party B’ would win than only Hosni Mubarak would stay in power.

All Egyptians know that Hosni Mubarak is there because of Army and thus, it does not matter if ‘Party A’ would win election or ‘Party B’ would win election, because Hosni Mubarak is a dictator and thus he is above any law, constitution, or Parties, rather it does not matter if Parties are there or not … But Pakistanis are so dumb that they believe if ‘Party A’ would win election than Musharraf is secure and if ‘Party B’ would win election than Musharraf would get impeached or would get into trouble. So, can you see the difference?:slight_smile: