Musharraf Accuses Sharif of Being 'Closet Taliban'

[shami2k]

I never thought I’d agree with Mushrraf on anything, but here he is right about NS being Taliban. I don’t have any doubts about it.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Danger for Pakistan, India if US quits Afghanistan: Musharraf
** Washington must immediately send more troops to Afghanistan, be ready for casualties

• Calls Nawaz ‘closet Taliban’, says PML-N chief never speaks against terrorism, extremism

Daily Times Monitor *

LAHORE: Pakistan and India will face great danger from Al Qaeda if the United States pulls out of Afghanistan, former president Pervez Musharraf said on Thursday.

In an exclusive interview with ABC News, Musharraf said a US pullout would result in an unstable Afghanistan.

“The country [Afghanistan] will become the centre of all Al Qaeda sanctuaries and consequently could extend its influence into Pakistan and possibly even India,” Musharraf said.

Troops: To a question on the US consideration of sending more troops to Afghanistan, he said US President Obama should have complied with Gen Stanley McChyrstal’s recommendation “yesterday”. “I think you should take it immediately. You should have taken it yesterday,” Musharraf said.

Musharraf said he “absolutely” believed there needed to be more troops in Afghanistan. But he said sending more troops could mean an increase in casualties, something the US should be prepared for.

“We must avoid casualties, as much as possible. But when soldiers move and armies act, casualties will be there, and we should accept casualties,” he said.

He said the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan should be mined, a proposition he termed “drastic”.

“As far as I’m concerned, we should mine it so that people can’t go across,” Musharraf said.

**He called PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif “abrasive” and confrontational.

“He has never been on good terms with any president of Pakistan,” he said, adding that Nawaz was a “closet Taliban”.

“Even on Pakistan Television these days, talk shows are going on saying that he has met Osama Bin Laden five times – five times before 9/11 – and he has been financed by Osama,” Musharraf said. “Then the other element is that he never speaks against terrorism and extremism.”**

[Spock]

Re: Musharraf Accuses Sharif of Being 'Closet Taliban'

Musharraf can try as hard as he can but hes not getting anymore favors from his masters in the west as far as getting back into Pakistan is concerned. With that said, I accuse Musharraf of being a closet a-hole, and a disgrace to the nation. He should continue to stay with his cousin Altaf Hussain in London and keep his trap shut.

[Reason]

You can read the full transcript of the interview Chris Cuomo Interviews Former Pakistani President Musharraf: Read Transcript - ABC News .

Here is the part about Sharif:

CHRIS CUOMO: Mr. Sharif is seen as a political opponent, another potential leader in Pakistan. You criticize him. You believe that there is something that Americans should know about Nawaz Sharif.

PERVEZ MUSHARRAF: Yes, they should know a lot about Nawaz Sharif. First of all, I think he’s – I call him a closet Taliban.

CHRIS CUOMO: Strong charge.

PERVEZ MUSHARRAF: Well, he is that, because even on Pakistan television these days, talk shows are going on – saying that he has met Osama bin Laden five times. Five times before 9/11. And he has been financed by Osama bin Laden. Then the other element is that he never speaks against terrorism and extremism. The man is a closet Taliban.

Then he’s been tested and tried twice, and failed. And took Pakistan to a state where we were defaulted and appealed state. And moreover, his interaction with people, his – his interaction, his dealings with officials – with people who – who are – who matter in Pakistan, he has – has been so abrasive, right from the beginning, he has never been on good terms with any army chief of Pakistan.

He has never been in good terms with any president of Pakistan. So I don’t know what kind of a mental makeup he has. But the man is abrasive against the other power – brokers of Pakistan, that is the president and the army chief. Always on a confrontationalist (?) course, right since the time of his joining politics, he has been on confront – he has been on a confrontation course with his – with his own mentor – back in the '80s. So that is his mental makeup. Well, then – it’s for the people of Pakistan then to judge whether he’s the right man to – to run a country.

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Musharraf on the consequences of US failure in Afghanistan:**

CHRIS CUOMO: If the U.S. mission in Afghanistan fails, if they don’t take control of the situation, what happens to Pakistan?
PERVEZ MUSHARRAF: Pakistan certainly will have to fight against the Taliban-- because they would like to spread again. And they’re starting in-- if they are to follow the same pattern-- into the (UNINTEL) agency and north and going towards-- because those mountains have more sympathy with the Taliban, the area of Swat, because there is this (UNINTEL) and his clan.

And they had to have a tend-- they tend to go across the mountains. There’s one Shanglar (PH), a range, and go onto the Karacodomi (PH) way, which is our link with our northern areas and with China. So that is-- the danger, and obviously, the army will have to protect the-- and show the security of the Karacomdomi way. And then act against anyone who tries to expand that way.

[coOoLBreeze]

Re: Musharraf Accuses Sharif of Being 'Closet Taliban'

Half of CIA has met Osama bin laden in the 80's........... they are all Taliban as well ?????

Bin Laden used to receive gifts of sniper rifles from CIA directly......

back to the topic...this englightened moderated pig Musharaf can whine about what ever he wants.......

[EyEsOnSkY]

@Spock

Musharraf can try as hard as he can but hes not getting anymore favors from his masters in the west as far as getting back into Pakistan is concerned. With that said, I accuse Musharraf of being a closet a-hole, and a disgrace to the nation. He should continue to stay with his cousin Altaf Hussain in London and keep his trap shut.

And Keep NS and Zardari to eat all Pakistan :aq:

[niden]

@cooolbreeze

Half of CIA has met Osama bin laden in the 80's........... they are all Taliban as well ?????

Do you have any proof of that? If you dont have anything to substantiate can you just keep quite. Why do you want that CIA go after your ar$e by quoting such non-sense. Don't justify NSs links with Laden/Taliban and make yourself an @rsehole.

[coOoLBreeze]

@niden

Do you have any proof of that? If you dont have anything to substantiate can you just keep quite. Why do you want that CIA go after your ar$e by quoting such non-sense. Don’t justify NSs links with Laden/Taliban and make yourself an @rsehole.

first of all shut your mouth and give some respect to others… you are the one who is acting an A__Hole…dont act childish and so naive for using foul language for nothing…

Secondly, its a known thing that CIA was fighting the war in Afghanistan in 70 and 80s with the help of Pakistan… there are literally hundred of links to prove that… you are too young I guess to know the history that well…

And I am not justifying NS or any others links with Osama or Alqaeda… I am against any sort of terrorism what so ever.. I condemn and hate who ever is nurturing the terrorism and suicide bombing.

Context of ‘Early 1989: US Supplies Sniper Rifles to Bin Laden’s Mentor’

[niden]

@cooolbreeze

first of all shut your mouth and give some respect to others..... you are the one who is acting an A__Hole....dont act childish and so naive for using foul language for nothing...

Secondly,, its a known thing that CIA was fighting the war in Afghanistan in 70 and 80s with the help of Pakistan.... there are literally hundred of links to prove that..... you are too young I guess to know the history that well...

See that what I am saying. I have yet to see some decent posts form you. I have asked you a question is there any politician you respect? If your answer is yes then post his name here. If not, then all politicians of Pakistan are of the same creed you yourself is made of.

As regard CIA, Again post your link that half of the CIA was involved with Bin Laden. The link you have provided is saying supply was given to Bin Laden's mentor not to BinLadin. The link is taken from another chat program where people like you give false information. I need an official link that says half of the American CIA was involved with Bin Laden. Otherwise apply the first para of your idiotic post to yourself.

[coOoLBreeze]

@niden

See that what I am saying. I have yet to see some decent posts form you. I have asked you a question is there any politician you respect? If your answer is yes then post his name here. If not, then all politicians of Pakistan are of the same creed you yourself is made of.

As regard CIA, Again post your link that half of the CIA was involved with Bin Laden. The link you have provided is saying supply was given to Bin Laden’s mentor not to BinLadin. The link is taken from another chat program where people like you give false information. I need an official link that says half of the American CIA was involved with Bin Laden. Otherwise apply the first para of your idiotic post to yourself.

Brother, since you are getting so serious… Let me re-phrase what I said that

Half of CIA agents during the Afghan war met with bin Laden/Mujaheedeen/Afghan war fighters etc… Now I did not mean that half of the World Wide CIA met with bin laden, but Half of the agents assigned during the Afghan war were involved in dealing with bin laden/mujahedeen/Afghan war fighters/ISI and and it aint a secret, you can dig for yourself.

There are numerous books which stated a lot about that.. A llil google is only required. e.g. RW ONLINE:Afghanistan Intrigue: The CIA and Osama bin Laden
you can read it full and you might get what I was trying to say…

hope that helps..

[niden]

@cooolbreeze

Brother, since you are getting so serious… Let me re-phrase what I said that Half of CIA agents during the Afghan war met with bin Laden/Mujaheedeen/Afghan war fighters etc… Now I did not mean that half of the World Wide CIA met with bin laden, but Half of the agents assigned during the Afghan war were involved in dealing with bin laden/mujahedeen/Afghan war fighters/ISI and and it aint a secret, you can dig for yourself.

Originally what you siad earlier is as follwos:

@cooolbreeze

Half of CIA has met Osama bin laden in the 80’s… they are all Taliban as well ???

You keep on changing your orginal statement. I have taken an excerpt from your above link RW ONLINE:Afghanistan Intrigue: The CIA and Osama bin Laden. Read and think 1000 times before you post here. That is my sincere advise.

Millions of dollars were funneled through the intensely conservative monarchy of Saudi Arabia. The training of the Afghan Mudjahadeen was carried out largely from bases along the Pakistani-Afghan border by the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI)–under the close supervision of the CIA’s “covert war” experts. The weapons they provided in the beginning were Soviet- and Chinese-made–so the U.S. backing would not be obvious.

[khoji]

This is why I say that Nawaz Sharif is a security risk for Pak.

[CheGuvera]

This is why I say that Nawaz Sharif is a security risk for liberal secularist degenerates doing foreigners' bidding in Pakistan.

Corrected...

[kakaballi]

Re: Musharraf Accuses Sharif of Being 'Closet Taliban'

If the charge is that NS had been abrasive with Army chiefs, I like that. Why do Army Chiefs expect a 'domestic helper' attitude from Politicians? Military top brass is remunerated heavily from Pakistani tax payers and should serve Pakistani people rather than threatening to occupy the country every now and then.

Meeting and backing Taliban was a 'strategic depth' policy of Pakistan initiated by the generals in the first place. I am sure Musharraf is not that naive to forget that.

[khoji]

Re: Musharraf Accuses Sharif of Being 'Closet Taliban'

Nawaz is a creation of a military dictator who initiated fasadi culture in Pakistani society.
What else would one expect from this guy?

May God protect Pakistan from his government.

[mYsTeRiOuS_gUy]

Musharraf can try as hard as he can but hes not getting anymore favors from his masters in the west as far as getting back into Pakistan is concerned. With that said, I accuse Musharraf of being a closet a-hole, and a disgrace to the nation. He should continue to stay with his cousin Altaf Hussain in London and keep his trap shut.

Musharraf this and Musharaff that, did Musharaff say anything wrong???
Wh*y is it that everything Nawaz said or did can never be wrong???*
Everyone knows that Sharif had soft corner for talibans, he has never even criticised them. *
*He should learn from Musharaff who came out in public and admitted that his wrong decision to impose emergency created problems for Pakistan. He admitted it because he always wanted best for Pakistan and it's people.
Where is apology from Sharifs and Zaradri for all their corruption????

Don't just blindly oppose what a certain person says and protect your own favourite no matter how badly he might have screwed us in the past.
As for Altaf Hussain, he is the biggest lota in the history of Pakistan (Only Fazal comes close). He is as much a Musharaff friend as Nawaz Sharif and now Zardari.

[Spock]

^ Precisely why you cant dare criticize Musharraf... You have got to be kidding me when you ask me if Musharraf said something wrong... The retarded general admitted he mismanaged military aid and used it against India; a very wise thing to do indeed with increased scrutiny and restrictions in place now!

[Spock]

@EyEsOnSkY

And Keep NS and Zardari to eat all Pakistan :aq:

So a retired cowardly ex-dictator has to go back and oversee the ‘eating’ process or get a piece of the pie, after having the pie all for himself for a decade?

[mYsTeRiOuS_gUy]

^ Precisely why you cant dare criticize Musharraf... You have got to be kidding me when you ask me if Musharraf said something wrong... The retarded general admitted he mismanaged military aid and used it against India; a very wise thing to do indeed with increased scrutiny and restrictions in place now!

Cr*ticise him if you *want but why just limit this to a certain person only???
I have been here long enough to know how much you have criticised Nawaz Sharif.
As for Musharaff's comments about aid, there was absolutely no need to talk about that in public but at least he defended his actions instead of going to India (like Sharif and Bhutto) and start a blame game to score some cheap points. In Musharaff's case, he admitted that American aid was used on weapons but those weren't neccesarily used against taliban only and it makes total sense as Pakistan can use it against anyone it likes (there was still no reason to come out and talk about this in public though).

[mYsTeRiOuS_gUy]

So a retired cowardly ex-dictator has to go back and oversee the 'eating' process or get a piece of the pie, after having the pie all for himself for a decade?

The whole world knows about Zardari and Sharif's track record but here you are criticising the same person again???? All you could blame him so far is "cheap electiricty" at discounted rate???

Quite a poor response to a valid point about Zardari and Sharif, don't you think???

[Spock]

Cr*ticise him if you *want but why just limit this to a certain person only??? I have been here long enough to know how much you have criticised Nawaz Sharif.

If Nawaz Sharif had been raping the country for 10 years and issuing out such news items then yes, you'll find me criticizing him. Either you are a newbie, or you are a die hard supporter of Musharraf. You havent been here long enough, go read my old posts after Musharraf took power from Nawaz Sharif.

[quote]

As for Musharaff's comments about aid, there was absolutely no need to talk about that in public but at least he defended his actions instead of going to India (like Sharif and Bhutto) and start a blame game to score some cheap points. In Musharaff's case, he admitted that American aid was used on weapons but those weren't neccesarily used against taliban only a*nd it makes total sense as Pakistan can use it against anyone it likes (there was still no reason to come out and talk about this in public though)*.
[/QUOTE]

You think its 'total' sense for Pakistan to mismanage American aid and use it on whatever they like, sorry to remind you musharraf's Gods in the west dont think that way... this time they'll make sure nothing of that sort happens, beggers cant be choosers anyways. Either say no to the aid, or follow their terms.