Many people believe that Musharaf is the greatest leader Pakistan has had since 1971, if not ever.
It has been said that under his leadership Pakistan has:
What do you think?
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totally agree....
Pakistanis have a habit of rejecting good things when they see them
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I think Musharraf is greatest leader considering Pakistan's interests.
Although as an Indian I dislike him because of his Kargil mis-adventure, at a time when "peace-process" was brought on track after Vajpayee's Bus Journey to Lahore and Nawaz Shariff's sincere efforts.
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^^ so you agree but your criticism was at a time when he was not the leader of pakistan
Re: Musharaf the greatest leader since 1971?
Many people believe that Musharaf is the greatest leader Pakistan has had since 1971, if not ever.
It has been said that under his leadership Pakistan has:
when u say many people .....who do u mean by many people.....
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I AGREEEEEEEEE :k:
Musharaf all da way!!!1
Time for the local goverment to hang all the religious extremist fanatics mofo’s who brainwash people with their extremist thinking…
Re: Musharaf the greatest leader since 1971?
totally agree....
Pakistanis have a habit of rejecting good things when they see them
Mushy a good leader? What a joke.. Shujaat Hussain can be a better leader than him.. Putting a face some fat and ugly man in ur avatar doesn't make you intelligent :p
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^^ then what exactly would you have done differently than Musharraf if u were in power?
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^^ then what exactly would you have done differently than Musharraf if u were in power?
Okay, here goes the list:
1) Not dismiss Ch. Iftikhar Mohammed
2) Appoint likes of Naseerullah Babbar to control Karachi and get rid of MQM goons
3) Demand the extradiction of Altaf Hussein from the UK.
I have more than this and as a true patriotic Pakistani, I have lot of ideas.. I don't know you- but no Pakistani will support Mushy :p
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Mushy a good leader? What a joke.. Shujaat Hussain can be a better leader than him.. Putting a face some fat and ugly man in ur avatar doesn't make you intelligent :p
Dude becareful that guy in the picture is tony suprano
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^^thanks for telling that. i dont know who this tony soprano guy, but till now, I thought that mercinery was a wannabe mossad agent from his avatar!
Re: Musharaf the greatest leader since 1971?
Okay, here goes the list:
1) Not dismiss Ch. Iftikhar Mohammed 2) Appoint likes of Naseerullah Babbar to control Karachi and get rid of MQM goons 3) Demand the extradiction of Altaf Hussein from the UK.
I have more than this and as a true patriotic Pakistani, I have lot of ideas.. I don't know you- but no Pakistani will support Mushy :p
so pretty much all recent events as I expected
Re: Musharaf the greatest leader since 1971?
Many people believe that Musharaf is the greatest leader Pakistan has had since 1971, if not ever.
It has been said that under his leadership Pakistan has:
I agree all of above.
1-Down side is he is not elected so-- he want to stick to Govt.
Why is that bad-- cuz the only option he has is do some thing incredibly stupid
like make alliance with MQM.
I you recall Zia era. He(Zia) miss-used Islam and the he created MQM to counter PPP in Karachi.
2- Second Mush is a "sharabi kababi"(he drinks and stuff) him self and he assume every pakistani house hold have to be like him/his family in order to make serious progress.
I couldn't disagree more on that issue And I hope he goes out of power for doing so.
3-He use "badmash" type language against Bloch nationalists.
He needs to remember that he is "Bara"(care taker) of every pakistani.
Kind way of talking wont hurt him.
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^^thanks for telling that. i dont know who this tony soprano guy, but till now, I thought that mercinery was a wannabe mossad agent from his avatar!
Wanna be Mossad Agent? :D
Well I am neutral. I am not gonna blindly support the Palestinians just because they are Muslim. I analyze both sides and then make an un-biased judgement.
As for my Avatar.
Ya its Tony Soprano. One of the greatest TV characters in history.
Its their last season after which I will change my avatar once the season is over.
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^^ so you agree but your criticism was at a time when he was not the leader of pakistan
I agreed from Pakitsan's perspective--definately Mushy is way better than current "lot" of leaders? if any in Pakistan.
But when I talk about Kargil mis-adventure, your arguement that Mush was not a leader is plain ignorance.
In fact if Mush was not a leader, then he desrves more severe punishment, because as an Army General, he sabotaged "peace" process when it was on it's peak-- while a Nationalist party like BJP and it's leader Vajpayee travelling all the way through Bus till Lahore and Nawaz Shariff showing sincerity in resolving the issue.
I think all dis-credit goes to Mushy for spoiling last golden chance of "peace" by plotting Kargil Drama, while on other side Nawaz Shariff and Vajpayee were discussing peace.
this has severely damaged the last fabric of "trust"....I don't think such an opportunity will arrive in near future.
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Wanna be Mossad Agent? :D
Well I am neutral. I am not gonna blindly support the Palestinians just because they are Muslim. I analyze both sides and then make an un-biased judgement.
As for my Avatar.
i said it not because of your opinion of middle east,just somehow felt it:D
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I agreed from Pakitsan's perspective--definately Mushy is way better than current "lot" of leaders? if any in Pakistan.
But when I talk about Kargil mis-adventure, your arguement that Mush was not a leader is plain ignorance.
In fact if Mush was not a leader, then he desrves more severe punishment, because as an Army General, he sabotaged "peace" process when it was on it's peak-- while a Nationalist party like BJP and it's leader Vajpayee travelling all the way through Bus till Lahore and Nawaz Shariff showing sincerity in resolving the issue.
I think all dis-credit goes to Mushy for spoiling last golden chance of "peace" by plotting Kargil Drama, while on other side Nawaz Shariff and Vajpayee were discussing peace.
this has severely damaged the last fabric of "trust"....I don't think such an opportunity will arrive in near future.
I agree that whole Kargil War was a mistake. Pakistan should have planned for a long war and analyzed all the ramifications for under taking such actions before it decided to do so.
Well as for such opportunities arriving in the future, I think both countries have progressed quite far.
We have moderate leaders, and with current world attention fixated on India with its out sourcing and Pakistan battling extremism, the world cannot afford to let India and Pakistan be enemies again.
I think it might take 4-5 years but India and Pakistan are now on a path for peace and we have Musharraf to thank for that.
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musharraf was doing very well and prob was the best leader we ever had but then just made some bad choices and decisions recently and has dug his own grave now
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I agree that whole Kargil War was a mistake. Pakistan should have planned for a long war and analyzed all the ramifications for under taking such actions before it decided to do so.
Well as for such opportunities arriving in the future, I think both countries have progressed quite far.
We have moderate leaders, and with current world attention fixated on India with its out sourcing and Pakistan battling extremism, the world cannot afford to let India and Pakistan be enemies again.
I think it might take 4-5 years but India and Pakistan are now on a path for peace and we have Musharraf to thank for that.
Why I said "Golden Opportunity" was sabotaged due to Kargil incident is for obvious reasons--
(1) BJP was in power during that time---BJP is a right wing nationalist party any agreement would have carried more weightage and credibility to override RSS and other ideologues within BJP.
That is something, which will take at least 10 years for Pakistanis to understand.
Vajpayee was undisputed leader of BJP during his days as PM and he travelled all the way till Lahore on a Bus, so this would have been a major break-through if something like Line of Control issue in Kashmir could have been discussed subsequently.
Trust was their considering Nawaz Sharif as someone who belonged to a grass-root leader.
But thanks to then army-general Musharraf who fantasized that infiltrating in Kargil will bring Kashmir under Pakistan or bring some kind of "perceived" international media attention of so called "Kashmiri struggle"...nothing like this happened at the end.
Still in his book he claims very 'big" achievement----from India's point of view kargil destroyed any chance of peace with Pakistan achieveing nothing significant.
I still don't think Indian leaders will feel comfortable in dealing with Musharraf.
Say for example if-- Narendra Modi becomes Prime Minister of India, will Pakistan deal with him in the same way as they dealt with Vajpayee??
For Indian policy makers Musharraf is like what Modi is for Pakistan in terms of trust.
I still say Nawaz Shariff would have been the best option for bilateral relations from India's perspective.
Musharraf is a great leader for Pakistan and it's development/economy overall corruption free governance--No doubt.
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^^ Musharraf has been great for the economy but dont know about corruption
Army Generals are seen driving around BMW's in Pakistan :)