Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.

Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.

Sallam

How unfair is this that a Muslim accusing other Muslim of infidelity. The sole purpose of this thread is to show that Shia don’t believe in this Quran, whereas anyone can check the copy of Quran in their hoses and mosques (not a big deal)
As far a genuine question regarding the true nature of Mushaf-e-Fatimah (AS) and Jafar –e- Jam' iah, it is a worth inquiry.

(I am not be the right person to comment on it, but as far I know)

According to the shia doctrine of Imamat and Wilayat, shia imams are designated by Allah (SWT) and introduced by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&HP) far the continuous guidance of mankind according to the latest agenda (Shairah). Earth is never void of a pious Wali of Allah (SWT). In this regard Imam has a great responsibility bestowed upon by Allah (SWT) and it conspicuous the divine abilities of the Imam ( as shia believe that Imam is infallible, receives guidance from Allah (SWT), has greatest amount of knowledge elm-e-Ludani ( esp. knowedge given by Allah (SWT) etc ) and in this regard Mushaf-e- Fatimah or Jafar –e- Jami'ah contains special guidance given by Allah (SWT) regarding events that will happen in future and responsibilities of the future etc but in no way it is equivalent or part of Quran or an extra part of Quran. And this is the Divine Book that is been taught for centuries to (shia) children, recited daily in shia homes and mosques, scholars have written comprehensive books on the Divine nature of this book (a number of books related to the refutation of allegations regarding alteration in Quran) etc. and still it is voiced that Shia don’t believe in this Quran ( the one that is in our hands) ….

Lexically, the Arabic word Mushaf can mean a book, collection of pages, a volume or a collection of writings. Sahifah means a page or, in modern Arabic, a newspaper. The plural is suhuf. Thus, in The Qur’an (87:18,19) Allah SWT refers to“ Inna hadha lafi Ssuhufil oola, Suhufi Ibrahima wa Musa” (This is the Scrolls/Scriptures of yore. the Scriptures of Ibrahim AS and Musa ).The word Mushaf, then, does not necessarily mean The Qur’an. It can be applied to any book.

NOTE :- And as far some of the quotations from Kafi, then it should be clear that this book is based on the theme of collection of Ahadith in order to preserve what so ever is available, shia scholars never qualified this book as Sahih ( as it is the case with Sahih Sitta). If any narration concerning the alteration of Quran is present in if and is used by some prominent shia scholar in order to show the invalidity of Quran then it is worth mentioning.

Well I do have a number of references from sunni books to counter this aggression but why should I indulge in this polemic? Regardless of what is written in historical records I know my sunni brothers firmly believe in this sacred text.

A sunni scholar (of sub-continent origin) Hafiz Muhammad Aslam author of "Tareekh-e-Quran" writes on page no. 62 to 67 under the handing of " Shia and Quran " (after quoting a number of view points of shia scholars) says :

"These are the standpoint of those shia scholars who are most notable amongst the community, and their sayings cant be misunderstood (since they are very much clear) and neither this is the case that they said it due to Taqiyya since some of them has written books against ahl-e-sunnah, and Abu Jafar Qumi's book Al-Ah'taqad and Mullah Mohsin's book Tafseer-e-Safi, are part of the curricula and no one can think of it that they are teaching their standpoint of their religion"

Likewise I can quote Moulana Abu Muhammad Abd ul Haq and other scholars but, will it suffice? Those who have disease in their hearts will never accept it, even in Quran Allah (SWT) says about Kuffar (those who denied Prophet Muhammad) that they knew him as they know their own sons but even then they denied him….

Alas! How much spectacular it would had been, if you quoted shia scholars sayings and research regarding Quran AL Hakeem and I would had quoted sunni scholars…

Regards