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NOTE: Stay focussed on topic, don't drag sectarianism here.
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Why does India not arrest Hindu militants like Advani and Modi, who incited and planned the killings of Muslims?
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how is it relevant to mumbai blasts
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How is smashing the skulls of hundreds of millions of Muslims in India (as some Hindu's on this forum want) relevant to the Mumbai blasts?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/11/AR2006071101205.html
How Much Will India Endure?
Pakistan Needs to Respond to Militants
By Xenia Dormandy
Wednesday, July 12, 2006; Page A15
Yesterday’s awful rush-hour bombings of trains in Bombay raise an important and ominous question: How far can India be pushed?
In December 2001 India and Pakistan almost went to war when a group of militants, based on Pakistani-controlled territory, attacked the Indian Parliament, killing nine people. India’s response was to mobilize forces along its border with Pakistan. Predictably and understandably, Pakistan followed suit. The U.S. State Department ordered all non-vital personnel out of both countries, and the world prepared for what could well have been the first war ever between two nuclear powers.
But due largely to extensive, active and exhaustive mediation by central figures from the West, tensions were ratcheted down, and in time forces were demobilized.
This time, it is not the West that needs to show leadership but the two countries themselves. They need to back up their words with actions. The leaders of India and Pakistan stated in April 2005 that “the peace process was now irreversible”; unless they both take action, this is now in question.
Three years ago, at first very quietly and with great sensitivity, India and Pakistan launched what was called the “composite dialogue.” The subjects ranged from economics to land to water to drugs to security. While many have suggested that these talks are going nowhere, they have led to some small but tangible progress.
You might raise your eyebrows, but even “cricket diplomacy” has helped. Over the past two years, numerous matches in both countries have opened the eyes of the Indian and Pakistani populations to one another. They have found that those on the other side often think like them, look like them and even enjoy the same games.
More traditional benefits have also spun out of the dialogue. For the first time in more than 50 years buses are traveling between India and Pakistan, including across the Line of Control splitting the old state of Kashmir. Trains were recently started, and trucks, too. Visa restrictions have been relaxed, the militaries meet regularly, and, most notably, after the massive earthquake that struck Pakistan last October, India was one of the first countries to respond with offers of assistance (although the time taken to agree on the mode delayed action considerably).
This is all good. What hasn’t happened is arguably even more impressive. Despite an attack on a religious complex in Ayodhya last July, again by militants based in Pakistan, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh announced that the dialogue would continue.
But – and here’s the crux of the matter – how long can India, Indians and the Singh government withstand the constant pressure from militant groups before they have to react? By any measure of international diplomacy, they’ve already been extraordinarily patient; compare their restraint with Israel’s response to the kidnapping of its soldier or to the U.S. and Japanese responses to North Korea’s missile tests.
Now is a moment when Pakistan really needs to respond. It wants to be taken seriously as an important player on the international scene. It has repeatedly asked the United States for a nuclear energy deal similar to the one we are working on with India. But until Pakistan – and this means not only President Pervez Musharraf but also the military, the people and the political parties, including the religious party, the MMA – gets serious about shutting down, arresting and otherwise dismantling the militant groups that operate from its territory, it cannot expect to be treated as a responsible player in the region. Pakistan is working on it, but it could do so much more.
A good – or at least stable – India-Pakistan relationship is one of the most important elements for long-term global stability. Given that both are nuclear powers, their region is one of the most dangerous in the world. And with attacks such as this, it is also one of the most volatile. India has taken great strides to tamp down this volatility. Pakistan needs to do more.
In return, India would need to step up in a real, substantive way on bilateral issues such as Kashmir. The third round of the high-level composite dialogue taking place next week, assuming it is still on, is the place to do it.
The writer is executive director for research with the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government. She has served as director for South Asia at the National Security Council, a post she left last August. The views expressed here are her own.
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Yaar India will never do that- they roam scot free when they are mass murderers. 2000-3000 innocent muslims were butchered for no reason in gujarat and the the guy who planned it(Modi) got re-elected as Chief minister. They like to blame everything on ISI without even investigating.. as if ISI was more powerful than the Indian govt. 
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I think we have to take out these jihadi groups for our own sake, not because of what India does or does not do. Creating a peaceful society is the only way for Pakistan to progress. No one wants to invest in a country with armed militias running around.
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I am really sad after reading some of the post's
People are DEAD, wakeup the blast have not seen if the victim was hindu or muslim for god sake please not spam with your idiotic theories, at least if you cant show sympathy don’t play the blame game.
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Indian stock market shrugs off blast, rises 3% in its wake. Great to see such confidence, not to hard when you look at the big picture.
MUMBAI (AP) — India's key stock index rose a surprising three per cent Wednesday, despite predictions of a selloff following a series of train bombings the previous day that rocked the country's financial capital.
[http://www.thestar.com/](http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1152703445244&col=968705923364&call_page=TS_Business&call_pageid=968350072197&call_pagepath=Business/News)Re: Mumbai Rocked by Blasts
I hate to sound callous, but for a country like India with a population of 1 billion+, nearly 200 dead is not a "huge setback".
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http://www.time.com/time/world/printout/0,8816,1212590,00.html
Ajay Sahni of the Institute for Conflict Management in New Delhi said it was unlikely that there had been any trigger for the attacks. Rather this was an “ongoing war” against Hindu-majority India by South Asian Muslims. “It is a continuous process of preparing for attacks and carrying them out,” he said. “When these people are able to bring something to fruition, they do it. The act itself is the objective. It says: ‘We’re here. And this is what we are going to do to you.’” In a paper published Monday, Institute research fellow Bibhu Prasad Routray warned that SIMI had been stepping up its operations in Bombay and the surrounding state of Maharashtra. He described several “SIMI strongholds” in the state, adding that the “seizure of 30 kilograms of RDX, 17 AK-47s and 50 hand grenades from Aurangabad and Malegaon [two Maharashtran towns] between May 9 and 12 and subsequent arrests of 11 LeT terrorists pointed to linkages between SIMI and the LeT.”
India is home to the second largest Muslim population in the world, around 150 million people. But in a nation of more than a billion people, Muslims are often a disadvantaged minority.
** In the eyes of many Hindus, no Muslim can ever truly belong in India. The origins of this antagonism are centuries old. In essence, hardline Hindus regard as a national humiliation the Islamic influence that pervades India’s history, starting with the Mughal Renaissance in the 16th century, continuing with the birth of Islamic fundamentalism in Asia in northern India in the 1860s (the same creed followed by the Taliban) and enduring even today in India’s national symbol, the Mughal mausoleum of the Taj Mahal. This distrust of Islam has only increased since independence in 1947: **
modern India was founded in the Muslim-Hindu bloodletting of Partition from Pakistan, in which a million people died, and since then three wars against Islamic neighbor Pakistan have killed millions more.
Today, much of this tension stems from India’s rule over Muslim-dominated Kashmir in the face of strident Pakistani opposition.
** The war on terror and the 1998-2004 rule of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) on a Hindu nationalist agenda — which also stoked a Hindu pogrom in Gujarat in 2002 in which 2,000 Muslims died — has lent further legitimacy to India’s lurking anti-Muslim prejudice. **
In 2003, just before twin bomb blasts in August that killed more than 50, TIME spoke to “Umar,” a SIMI operative, or Ansar (“guide”), who said his men were carrying out the attacks. The 44-year-old said: “This country doesn’t work for Muslims any more. You can’t get a proper education, you can’t get a job. You’re not even safe.” He said he and his men had no intention of ever ending their murderous campaign. “We will continue,” he told TIME. “There is no limits on our actions… Even to kill children is good — you stop the generation there, at the beginning.”
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Any one dead is not a setback for any country, things keep moving. But it is a great setback for child who lost father or mother, and it is a great setback for the parents who lost their child (sometime the only child).
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all these accusations without an iota of proof so far is plain retarded. where were all the mumbaikars two weeks ago when shiv sena idiots rioted? no body seemed to condemn any of that disruption and creation of tension. despite what stupid marathis think, unless thakeray and shiv sena are castrated, mumbai will never see peace.
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http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1742351,0008.htm
Lashing out at Pakistan for seeking to link Kashmir issue to the “blatant and inhuman” bomb attacks in Mumbai, India on Wednesday asked it to fulfil urgently its “solemn commitments” to dismantle terror infrastructure in that country and join hands with New Delhi in eliminating the scourge.
Terming as “appalling” Pakistan Foreign Minister Khurshid Mehmood Kasuri’s remarks that the “best way of tackling extremism in South Asia” is to tackle “real issues” like Kashmir, New Delhi asked Islamabad to act against “individuals and groups” responsible for terrorism.
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has anyone come out claiming responsibility yet? we're waiting.. (actually i'm only interested in the name.. they do come out with very interesting names.. like Army of the Jihadee brigade 72 virgins wing....
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First of all, as a Pakistani, I express my anger and outrage at this attack that has killed so many good and decent Indians.
Second, I totally agree with the columnist above; Pakistan needs to act against terrorism in its own country immediatly and persuasively. Terrorists are a threat to the entire world and Pakistan must use all force at its disposal to rid of them.
Many Muslims have become the "Yes-But-However" people; Yes, it was wrong, But your government is at fault too, However until you change your actions, we won't change ours.
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Surprising to see Thackeray and his sons/nephews having huge impact on Mumbai despite the city being so cosmopolitan. something that started as pan-marathi movement had to change their agenda to pro-hindutva during the ayodhya movement. But then, there is always an effort in the sub-continent to glorify your language/sect/state/province etc.. and the process of sub-ordination goes on and on..
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ai 72 virgins aali gaal sach ai putter... jaddon tussi heaven jawoge tay maan jaawoge...
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Masoom lokan nu maren wale heaven ch nahi hell ch jaan ge , mere dost.:(
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Its a matter of time only that Dawood will be handed over to India. Its only a call ( Bush to Mush) away. It will happen sooner than later now. Any bets ?
I have not quoted any Indian expert here. Even FBI has termed LET and Dawood as terrorists.
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