Idiotic Mullahtics are ready to jump up and down in their undies. Yet they completely ignore the toruture chambers of Falluja where unarmed Pakistanis were beheaded.
Thank goodness four such hostages are now free. BBC reported:**
US-led troops involved in fighting against insurgents in the Iraqi city of Falluja have found four imprisoned men believed to be Iraqi hostages.
Three of them were contractors working for the US military, a US marines spokesman said, and the fourth said he was a taxi driver.
All of the men had been beaten and starved and were wearing handcuffs
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Inside the city itself, marines freed a fourth hostage, an Iraqi taxi driver who said he had been held for 10 days.
He did not work with Americans and said he did not know why he was kidnapped.
He said the men holding him beat him repeatedly, and he had scars on his wrists and feet where he had been handcuffed.**
p.s. Mods! I started a separate thread to make sure people know the other side of the story. The terrorists were using Falluja as a hell hole toruture chamber. This is important to understand while we all look at the reasons why Falluja is being bombed right now.
Not only that. The brave insurgents have been executing their innocent Iraqi human shields just before bugging out of their houses in order to avoid having to fight. I can understand why they'd turn coward and run. But shooting their human shields as a final "thank you" ????
" In almost every single mosque in Fallujah we have found an arms cache, we have found IED factories, we have found fortifications, and we have even found weapons repair facilities. We have been shot at by snipers from minarets, and we’ve also seen the use of schools for the storage of weapons. This is the enemy that we fight." http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2004/tr20041111-1582.html
Mosques. Every single one of them. No one offended by this?
If Jerry Fallwell had an IED factory in his church, you guys would climb out of your skin…
If the US is fair game for it’s support of Isreal, does that make the Mullahs fair game for support of the insurgents?
C'mon, OG. These are brave and honored freedom fighters, martyred defenders who will be blessed in jannah. Next thing you know you will be saying Arafat was robbing his people blind with a corrupt and dictatorial regime that prevented the Palestinians from having a state and a minimum standard of living! Where will you stop?
OG, since you are so innovative, please answer me one question. How is a war fought? Especially a unjust one! You didn’t scream when phosphor was in play, then you have no reason to ask for mourn for your death Soldiers.
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By using places of worship as places to hide weapons and to shoot at people from?
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You would do the same thing when your country is invaded and you have no other way to fight for your freedom (if you have balls). But it’s easy for you to make such sarcastic remarks sitting in your cozy homes.
places of worship have no sanctity when compared to the lives and honor of muslims in the eyes of allah. americans can destroy the kaaba brick by brick and it would be better in the sight of allah than the unjust destruction of the life or honor of ONE muslim. so no we are not concerned about places of worship. their sanctity is lost the day ONE muslim is killed unjustly. any muslim who seems concerned about the bricks and stones more than the flesh and soul like the board of masjid i attend has some serious thinking to do about his/her priorities.
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"places of worship have no sanctity"
when occupied by men with guns. Furthermore it fouls the sanctity of all mosques worldwide, and sort of screws up that "religion of peace" thing....
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It's only a religion of peace, in times of peace. You think any religion expects its people to bend over and let others trample all over them?
I mean the level of discussion in this thread is so far so good......though I personally oppose this falluja operation but I am happy to hear that some innocents were able to save their lives as a result of this military operation. I also hope that USA and Iraqi government will be able to achieve the ultimate political goal (peace in Iraq) through this military operation. However, history tells us that the efforts to achieve political stability by conducting a military operation are seldom successful.
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However, history tells us that the efforts to achieve political stability by conducting a military operation are seldom successful.
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When in the history of the Middle East has stability not been achieved by miltary operations?
^ that then explains the 1.2 trillion dollar of aid (as of 2002) given to israel by US since 1973.
On one hand, US tax payers are literally funding the war, and on the other hand they seek a peaceful solution. Talk about hypocrisy.
^ why then do you seek an end to the intifada. And please dont tell me that you actually care about the Palestinian cause or its people since your actions say otherwise.
With what face do Pakistanis even talk about the Palestinian cause? Pak Army aided in killing thousands of Palestinians in Jordan. Check your own record before questioning others’ commitment to a peaceful solution.
Matoos are busy killing Shias in Pakistan. No one is pressuring Sudan over it’s Arabobo raping and murdering – a holocaust of African Muslims. Are you guys for real?
Explain more about the Pakistani Army in Jordan killing Palestinians. I have never heard of that. When did this happen, is this back in the 70’s when Arafat was kicked out of Jordan?