Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
what kind of nonsense is this al qaida attacked america so we have to support america!!! the so called 9/11 attackers where from saudi and they planned there alleged attack in hamburg germany. Is saudi and germany being invaded NO!
America attacked iraq twice, supports israel, bombs somalia, attacks pakistan, puts sanctions on iran, supports dicatators morroco to uzbekistan.
No we do not supoport America we against america they have blood of millions of people on their hands and they attack muslim countries almost every year when it suits them.
Jihad has many defintions and one of the most clear cut meanings which none of the classical scholars deny is the right to eject foriegn occupiers from your lands it is fard to do it.
Iraq wrong, Israel wrong, Iran sanctions wrong, Somalia... Maybe. Attacks Pakistan, I dont think so, more like helping Pak clear up terrorists rats, Uzbek dictator well, they also supported Pakistai dictators, attack Muslims ever year? Exaggeration on your part.
Jihad has many meanings but then you also need to define occupation, you also need define who are actual Mujahids. You cant call terrorists Mujahids. Thats what is taught in the Koran aswell.
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
Iraq wrong, Israel wrong, Iran sanctions wrong, Somalia... Maybe. Attacks Pakistan, I dont think so, more like helping Pak clear up terrorists rats, Uzbek dictator well, they also supported Pakistai dictators, attack Muslims ever year? Exaggeration on your part.
Jihad has many meanings but then you also need to define occupation, you also need define who are actual Mujahids. You cant call terrorists Mujahids. Thats what is taught in the Koran aswell.
US occupies Afghanistan how blind are you?
US occupies iraq hello ?????
NATO and AMerica getting humiliated by a bunch of fighters with next to no weapons and a few ak47's hilarious.
your beloved American military has lost and you supporting the kuffar americans makes you a loser in this life and the hereafter and if you muslim? you have to account to allah(swt) why you supported the kuffar american war criminal military?
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
wow ! few idiots with ak 47 's defeated americans :Dinclude few dumbest suicide bombs .
thus speaks khudai spokesman rommel !
med is a looser ?
med a looser in this life , shall not be able to get 72 hoores in other life. how pitiful and sad for med .
there is one remedy , support taliban hoores will retun.
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
isn't foolish to keep claiming America is losing this war? they have thrown out the taleban govt, they have killed al qaeda leadership and are leaving in their own time table. hardly a loss. when they leave if your point is that there will still be terrorists left there, why do you expect every terrorist to be killed, as long as they have been rendered ineffective i n most parts? what you say is like saying that Pak military has lost to LeT and TTP because the latter continue to conduct bombings.
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
isn't foolish to keep claiming America is losing this war? they have thrown out the taleban govt, they have killed al qaeda leadership and are leaving in their own time table. hardly a loss. when they leave if your point is that there will still be terrorists left there, why do you expect every terrorist to be killed, as long as they have been rendered ineffective i n most parts? what you say is like saying that Pak military has lost to LeT and TTP because the latter continue to conduct bombings.
10 years the war going on, hundreds of billions of dollars wasted for nothing tens of thousands of people killed.
Taliban control majority of the country, karzai and the americans cannot travel without fully armoured convoys and that is only when they brave enough to travel in small parts of kabul.
this is America's 2nd veitnam how embarrassing if you won yankee man why your coward americans come out and declared victory they have lost and they so shameful they even inviting taleban to so called peace conference to end the war because yankees taking one hell of a beating and they can't take no more.
Nice try to twist reality but America lost to the poorest nation on earth so much for super power these wars and greedy capitalist economic system have turned US into super failure!
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
yes America has lost the war of bravado. My point is very different -
America has punished Afghanistan especially Taleban for brooking Al Qaeda.
America has found and killed OBL in spite of Pakistan
So they have come in from ten thousand miles away and had their way.
Now Af-Pak is in turmoil, yes. Is that a problem for Afghans and Pakistanis or is that a problem for Americans?
If you think United States spent $500 billion+, lost thousands of soldiers traveled half way across the world just to get 1 man and turn a poor country with nothing into even poorer country than nothing than you more naive than i thought.
This is a war of ideology and the target is much bigger than 1 guy in a cave wake and drink a cup of reality.
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If you think United States spent $500 billion+, lost thousands of soldiers traveled half way across the world just to get 1 man and turn a poor country with nothing into even poorer country than nothing than you more naive than i thought.
This is a war of ideology and the target is much bigger than 1 guy in a cave wake and drink a cup of reality.
whatever is the perception of parties , the peaceful world is interested in destruction of terrorists .that will be the end result
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@rommel - every war is to do with ideologies. The terrorists try to hide their true ideology (which is grabbing power over people by means of ...terrorism - as the taleban and al qaeda did) and cloak it under race, religion, economic systems etc. The gullible fall for it and in this case have supported them with obfuscations such as 'mujahideen'. Sadly this has backfired within Pakistan and still you don't see the truth!!
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
If you think United States spent $500 billion+, lost thousands of soldiers traveled half way across the world just to get 1 man and turn a poor country with nothing into even poorer country than nothing than you more naive than i thought.
This is a war of ideology and the target is much bigger than 1 guy in a cave wake and drink a cup of reality.
Of course, the purpose was multi-fold:
To bring destabilization in South Asia since it was a region which was threatening the industrial backbone of developed countries like France, Germany and USA. In order to ensure that no more factories get relocated to South Asia, a simple yet effective technique was to make sure that there was raging war there. The TTP arm of CIA even tried to instigate problems in xingiang province of China which China crushed.
USA itself along with the poison-minded New Dehli tried their best to break-off Balochistan from Pakistan by providing money, training and weapons to Baloch terrorist groups. This was to destroy Pakistan, the only muslim nuclear power and moreover to create an independent Balochistan from where the USA could keep a check on South Asian countries like China and Russia.
To try and enforce the age old redneck mentality that we are the most powerful and don't mess with us
To create billions of dollars worth of profit for the US based arms manufacturing businesses.
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
**Dear Rommel
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Which of these facts make you believe that we are occupying Afghanistan or Iraq? The fact that we have removed two tyrannical regimes and, as a result, provided the opportunity to the people of those respective countries to exercise their right to choose their own government? Or the fact that there is a democratically elected leader and government in both the countries? Does withdrawing from Iraq, and building an Afghan National Army, mean that we are an occupying force? In the security transition phase in Afghanistan, we are gradually supporting and providing training to the Afghan people so they can fight the insurgency in Afghanistan on their own. Which of these realities fits the description or the definition of an occupied country? Do not let personal bias against those you term as “Kuffar” blind you to a point where you do not see reality. The reasons as to why we engaged in a war in Afghanistan have been largely satisfied. Osama Bin Laden is killed, and the atrocious regime which harbored these terrorists and terrified the population is no longer in the position to force their rule on the Afghan people again. Unfortunately, the job is not yet finished, as the desperation of these ruthless killers has led them to commit suicide attacks against innocent people and take with them as many as they can, so as to create a false hope and impression among their small supporters that they are winning.
Do you have any credible source or evidence that the Taliban control majority of Afghanistan? That is misinformation. They do not control any part of Afghanistan. Their presence in small pockets across the country is a problem, but that does not constitute control. Afghanistan is under the control of the Afghan government. Each province has its own local government and police force that are fighting these insurgents with our support. We do not count the funds spent in Afghanistan as a waste, as our sacrifice has helped to rebuild Afghanistan and support an essential fight against terrorists.
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
All do respect sir, I believe you are talking to someone who has already made up his mind. He will never agree with any of your points, however valid, because he doesn’t even agree with your basic premise, that the Taliban are a vile regime.
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
Of course, the purpose was multi-fold:
To bring destabilization in South Asia since it was a region which was threatening the industrial backbone of developed countries like France, Germany and USA. In order to ensure that no more factories get relocated to South Asia, a simple yet effective technique was to make sure that there was raging war there. The TTP arm of CIA even tried to instigate problems in xingiang province of China which China crushed.
USA itself along with the poison-minded New Dehli tried their best to break-off Balochistan from Pakistan by providing money, training and weapons to Baloch terrorist groups. This was to destroy Pakistan, the only muslim nuclear power and moreover to create an independent Balochistan from where the USA could keep a check on South Asian countries like China and Russia.
To try and enforce the age old redneck mentality that we are the most powerful and don't mess with us
To create billions of dollars worth of profit for the US based arms manufacturing businesses.
There are a lot others.....................
Snowy - you ought to be ashamed of accusing New Delhi once again without an iota of proof. South Asia threatening the developed countries' industrial backbone? really? how many factories were relocated to South Asia from USA, Germany or France?
Completely blithering nonsense!
And even more shameless - China told Pakistan off for housing the terrorists. Or did that not get published in whatever crap you read?
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
All do respect sir, I believe you are talking to someone who has already made up his mind. He will never agree with any of your points, however valid, because he doesn't even agree with your basic premise, that the Taliban are a vile regime.
sir?? you call these kuffar who kill muslims sir, maybe you should also jump whenever he tells you to jump also.
are you familiar with the following terms?
Slave: One who is abjectly subservient to a specified person or influence
Uncle tom: A black man who will do anything to stay in good standing with "the white man" including betray his own people
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
Snowy - you ought to be ashamed of accusing New Delhi once again without an iota of proof. South Asia threatening the developed countries' industrial backbone? really? *how many factories were relocated to South Asia from USA, Germany or France?
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Completely blithering nonsense!
And even more shameless - China told Pakistan off for housing the terrorists. Or did that not get published in whatever crap you read?
underground terror industry of alqayada was displaced from america to south asia , great industrialist osama bin laden himself came to pakistan to establish bigger industries in the south asia , this infuriated industrially developed countries . :D
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** USA could keep a check on South Asian countries like China and Russia - snowy winter.**
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another gem russia and china are south asian countries - snowy khan
Re: Mujahideen kill 16 NATO terrorists in afghanistan!
Dear enemy of all the sincere muslims
Your terroist military have illegally occupied iraq based on lies, i.e you claimed Iraq had WMD’s you changed your story from WMD’s to al qaida to saddam forces to sunni group to god knows what else you change your story every 5 minutes. You have killed many millions and destroyed iraq.
If you think iraq has an independent free government you must be smoking illegal drugs they are hand picked poodles selected by the war criminal in the pentagon.
Your racist army has also killed many thousands of people in afghanistan, you have wasted 10 years and nothing has changed afghan people giving you bigger fight than you imagined and you control dust fields and control nothing and you even begging leaders of the resitance and taliban to peace conference to dupe them again when in fact they will dupe you.
Why you wasting peoples time with your lies you here to occupy strategic land your eyes are on controlling area with access to whole of caspian and asia You not building military bases and biggest embassy(spy centres) with intention of leaving You also want to prevent the rise of islam and the next caliphate we know what you want and i tell you sincerly you will fail.
I am very happy you wasting hundreds of billions inshallah keep spending the billions it help drain your resources while your pathetic economy back home is rotting away in front of our eyes.
the victory has been promised to the sincere muslims not to the munafiqs and kuffar like yourselves.
