Mufti Taqi Usmani: Key Islamic Principles for Reforming the Global Financial System

Re: Mufti Taqi Usmani: Key Islamic Principles for Reforming the Global Financial Syst

Burqa... please no aain baaiinnn shaaiinnnnnn.... can i have simple non-jalebi asnwers for posts #117 or #123 or #133?

You must need some knowledge base and its of no use gibbering on the topic regarding which you don't have skills and knowledge so please don't waste our time to tolerate you there are many threads available for your interest let me choose some for you khail khilari, shor sharaba, jokes etc.

Hope u r a bit educated person n got wht i meant

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Re: Mufti Taqi Usmani: Key Islamic Principles for Reforming the Global Financial Syst

why you people are wasting your time in convincing burqaposh ???????
why i dont know leave such type of people you can find them in every step of life every field everywhere. I agree you people did your job well to let him think over the facts regarding islamic concepts of economics but please you can't change him unless God wills.

look we have a good topic here on islamic banking so bring some fruitful knowledge regarding the topic

Re: Mufti Taqi Usmani: Key Islamic Principles for Reforming the Global Financial Syst

Just by changing the terminologies and using arabic words, things can not become Islamic. Even the hardliner ulemas have rejected the current system of Mezan and other banks terming it haram.

Re: Mufti Taqi Usmani: Key Islamic Principles for Reforming the Global Financial Syst

The so called Islamic banks are doing good business in Pakistan only because complacent and so called religious people are flocking over there - just to have Halal transaction/income. But ironically these people wont give up exhorbitant profit making and tax evasion!

there is a lot of grey area between absolute haram and absolute halal.

i wud not comment on the present islamic banking mechanism prevalent in pakistan, as i m not expert on this subject but i want to say humbly is the fact that present islamic banking meets many of the islamic finance condition and shud be consider a step in the rite direction.

i must reiterate that we need gud and islamic entreprenuer with abilty to raise Rs. 6 billion capital.

it is evident who is doing aaien bahain shain...............

islamic banking is still in its nascent stage............. and 2ndly nobody will let u enter in the financial system so easliy as it has high entry cost plus the nation/ ppl who rules the world economic system also rules the world. so the existing player will never give away with their dominance so easily.

further we need to bear this fact in mind that Banking Companies Ordinace 1962, specifically prohibits the banks to enter into trading business ( with certain exception) leaving the bank to deal in the money and paper ( t bills, tfcs, shares etc) only. **
on the other hand as a matter of principle islam prohibits the money to be used as a **"commodity"
and requires it to be treated as merely a "medium of exchange". so in the current banking regulations it is not possible for the bank to enter in to the trade to earn some real profit emanating from the real economic activity.
thats y the current islamic banking products are void of real profit loss participation essence e.g. murabaha. that is generally being crticised for its non islamic attributes.
but the question arises who we need to balame for it . our parliment, bank's regulator, shariah adivosers, enterprenuer or the ppl of pakistan ( as a borrower and deposit holder.

having said that present islamic product still meet many of the criteria as laid down by the shariah and islamic fiqah.

so burqaposh ( inspite of ur limitation , as i can guess u r a student of arts or medical without the basic knowledge of the banking and finance) we should hope for the best to support islamic banking system so that it can improve in the future.
criticising without realising the glaring ground realities is ridiculous, shameless and useless. do sth in the positive direction. go get some degree (if u want to ) and participate in a helpful way to set the thing right. may allah be ur guide.

may allah show all of us right path.

excuses excuses excuses. ayeeeen baaaayeeen shaaaayeen.

Pakistan may have the 1962 law. But other places in the world are free to chose. Even the richest gulf countries and Iranian Ayatullah group all have failed to show that Islamist banks can work.

Why?

Because its all "Holy smoke", and "snake oil". Just take the traditional banking products, change their name to some Arabic mumbo jumbo and sell it as Islamist product.

All because of hut-dharmi.

The current behavior of Islamist banks clearly shows that the modern banks offer all the options that a Muslim should be looking for. There is no need to put green cloth on something that doesn't need one.

Oh well.

May Allah stop Islamists from using our religion for their despicable worldly gains.

Ameen!