Re: Mr.Modi says America need not preach about Human Rights..
Now it's bitter reading stupid posts.
It's pleasant reading ridiculously bitter comments.
Re: Mr.Modi says America need not preach about Human Rights..
Arlei,
Are we equating fame and prominence with character?
Mr.Modi is famous in Corporate world.He uses his links and influence to bring in Business in to Gujarat,which I believe is a positive step adopted.Moreover,he has got a transparent governing system for which I applaud him wholeheartedly.
I believe I have a different opinion in other matters.I will pm you as it is off-topic. :)
Re: Mr.Modi says America need not preach about Human Rights..
It's pleasant reading ridiculously bitter comments.
Same here. But sours some stupid comments.They are unachievable.
Re: Mr.Modi says America need not preach about Human Rights..
In the last election, he won even in Muslim dominated constituencies. You should be able to google this info pretty easily.
Prove your claim.
Even though it may not be very convincing wha you bring, but still what matters is he is a criminal of humanity, and Indian muslims in USA do not have to vote in India for him. :p
Arlei,
Are we equating fame and prominence with character?
Good question.
Do share the PM by Arlie please. Never mind- what he will say is predictable.
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It was not very easy to get specifics. Here is the best I could do
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-10-12/india/28251798_1_civic-polls-muslim-candidates-congress-bastion
Modis people claim they got 30% of muslim votes (I would not call that “winning muslim dominated constituencies”). They also claimed to have won 80% of total votes.
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Narendra modi’s gujrat progressed at much higher rate than any other state in India:)
and in some indexes of progress Gujrat is ahead of Punjab:o
though modi cannot be absolved of his crime of not controlling the riot but he has been progressive CM.
he should remain in Gujrat, for PM, my bet is Nitish Kumar, chief minister of Bihar:k:
Re: Mr.Modi says America need not preach about Human Rights..
Try this -
Re: Mr.Modi says America need not preach about Human Rights..
and in some indexes of progress Gujrat is ahead of Punjab:o
Gujarat is ahead of Punjab in most growth indices. And I know this being a Punjabi who has lived in Gujarat.
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Thanks Player. I learnt a few things here. Point taken that things are changing. I have cut and pasted some sections that show if we dig under the hood, things are not what they seem. But having said that, you did provide new info for me. (Told you you were smarter :))
Noted human rights activist J S Bandukwala, who is also the president of the Gujarat unit of Peoples Union for Civil Liberties(PUCL) points out that Modi is using the elections by fielding Muslims on BJP symbols as a tactics to divert the focus so that Muslims forget his complicity in 2002 riots and he gets acceptability among BJP allies in NDA so that he can fulfill his dream of playing a role in BJP at national level. However, Bandukwala, who himself suffered a lot in 2002 riots, painfully says that there were a group of Muslims like former IPS and IAS officers and industrialists and also `maulanas’ who were working at the behest of Modi to forget 2002 in exchange for material benefits.
According to Bandukwala, pro-BJP results in Muslim dominated pockets are also due to reorganisation of wards and seats by BJP government to divide the Muslim areas in such a way so that Muslims politically become ineffective. He gives the examples of Mughalwada in Vadodara which had been split into three pieces and each part clubbed separately with three other wards with Hindu majority so as to make Muslims politically meaningless. He said that the Congress was also collaborating with the BJP in this endeavour.
If Bandukwala is to be believed, then there is another reason as well. According to him, it is the Congress stalwart Ahmed Patel not allowing any other Muslim leader to grow. The young Muslims with ambition and feeling frustrated with the Congress due to Patel’s tactics are therefore drifting to BJP that has provided a space to them to realise their political aims.
But Mehboob Ali, Gujarat BJP (Minority Cell) president opines that Muslims are joining BJP and support it because of the Congress party’s indifferent attitude towards the community. While the Congress did practically nothing except raising slogans of extending benefits to the community, it resulted in secular Hindus as well turning against Muslims being projected as pampered class. According to Ali, it only led to more suffering for the community and members of it have now seem to have realised the Congress tactics and slowly moving towards BJP because there is no third political option available in Gujarat..
Re: Mr.Modi says America need not preach about Human Rights..
Thanks Player. I learnt a few things here. Point taken that things are changing. I have cut and pasted some sections that show if we dig under the hood, things are not what they seem. But having said that, you did provide new info for me. (Told you you were smarter :))
Noted human rights activist J S Bandukwala, who is also the president of the Gujarat unit of Peoples Union for Civil Liberties(PUCL) points out that Modi is using the elections by fielding Muslims on BJP symbols as a tactics to divert the focus so that Muslims forget his complicity in 2002 riots and he gets acceptability among BJP allies in NDA so that he can fulfill his dream of playing a role in BJP at national level. However, Bandukwala, who himself suffered a lot in 2002 riots, painfully says that there were a group of Muslims like former IPS and IAS officers and industrialists and also `maulanas' who were working at the behest of Modi to forget 2002 in exchange for material benefits.
According to Bandukwala, pro-BJP results in Muslim dominated pockets are also due to reorganisation of wards and seats by BJP government to divide the Muslim areas in such a way so that Muslims politically become ineffective. He gives the examples of Mughalwada in Vadodara which had been split into three pieces and each part clubbed separately with three other wards with Hindu majority so as to make Muslims politically meaningless. He said that the Congress was also collaborating with the BJP in this endeavour.
If Bandukwala is to be believed, then there is another reason as well. According to him, it is the Congress stalwart Ahmed Patel not allowing any other Muslim leader to grow. The young Muslims with ambition and feeling frustrated with the Congress due to Patel's tactics are therefore drifting to BJP that has provided a space to them to realise their political aims.
But Mehboob Ali, Gujarat BJP (Minority Cell) president opines that Muslims are joining BJP and support it because of the Congress party's indifferent attitude towards the community. While the Congress did practically nothing except raising slogans of extending benefits to the community, it resulted in secular Hindus as well turning against Muslims being projected as pampered class. According to Ali, it only led to more suffering for the community and members of it have now seem to have realised the Congress tactics and slowly moving towards BJP because there is no third political option available in Gujarat..
JS Bandukwala is a known Modi opponent, so I would take what he says with a grain of salt. Its like Congress questioning the progress that Gujarat has made and giving alternative explanations for it.
The key points to note are -
1. Tremendous progress in Gujarat since 2002 which benefits Hindus and Muslims alike.
2. Modi has won in Muslim dominated areas so a good chunk of Muslims are voting for him.
3. Muslims contesting elections on his party's tickets/under his leadership. I dont agree with the view that Muslims would join a "mass murderer" just because Congress is indifferent towards them :)
4. Not a single communal riot in Gujarat since 2002. Prior to that there was a riot/curfew every year in Ahmedabad for the annual Janmashtmi rath yatra.
Lets give the guy credit where its due.
Re: Mr.Modi says America need not preach about Human Rights..
JS Bandukwala is a known Modi opponent, so I would take what he says with a grain of salt. Its like Congress questioning the progress that Gujarat has made and giving alternative explanations for it.
The key points to note are - 1. Tremendous progress in Gujarat since 2002 which benefits Hindus and Muslims alike. 2. Modi has won in Muslim dominated areas so a good chunk of Muslims are voting for him. 3. Muslims contesting elections on his party's tickets/under his leadership. I dont agree with the view that Muslims would join a "mass murderer" just because Congress is indifferent towards them :) 4. Not a single communal riot in Gujarat since 2002. Prior to that there was a riot/curfew every year in Ahmedabad for the annual Janmashtmi rath yatra.
Lets give the guy credit where its due.
Agree with the key points you listed. Grain of salt notwithstanding, the following reminds me of re-districting initiated by Republicans - through which Democrats lost big time.
"According to Bandukwala, pro-BJP results in Muslim dominated pockets are also due to reorganisation of wards and seats by BJP government to divide the Muslim areas in such a way so that Muslims politically become ineffective. He gives the examples of Mughalwada in Vadodara which had been split into three pieces and each part clubbed separately with three other wards with Hindu majority so as to make Muslims politically meaningless. He said that the Congress was also collaborating with the BJP in this endeavour. "
Question is how did Modi win in muslim dominated areas? If above para is true, it appears he won by dividing muslim dominated areas (and possibly combining them with Hindu dominated areas) thus rendering Muslim majority meaningless.
Above indicates majority of muslims may have voted against him, and he still may have won in muslim dominated areas.