Mr. Jinnah's presidential address to the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan

Re: Mr. Jinnah's presidential address to the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan

Well, well, we see the same mentality of Pakistani people in cricket and politics.

When a player fails they ask for his head, and when the replacement fails they want the sae player whom they wanted out to be back in the team.

Pakistan is best thing that happened to us. Muslims have neve been or could never be more than 1/3rd of Indian population. On top of that Muslims were poor, uneducated and discriminated against. What cud they have acheived. If Muslims cud really be happy in India, we wud never have seen teh Kashmir struggle.

The best buffer for Muslims of India wud be a strong Pakistan. Look at Israel, despiet being small it is strong and wields much influence in the region despite 20 bigger countries around us.

If we have failed despite getting a separate state, what wud have been chances of success if did not have one. If we have sucked as a country, don't blame the existance of country, that pathetic beyond beleif.

Re: Mr. Jinnah's presidential address to the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan

whatever...

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Well said! :k:

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Spock,

“Why dont you move to India and rule it?”

What that suppose to mean? It does not make any sense. For centuries my ancestors born and live in this part of the subcontinent, which became Pakistan in 1947, we were all Indians then.

You don’t have to be sarcastic, whatever I said was one of the real possibility if division of Muslims would have not taken place.

FARID

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BinAdam,

" am sure if Pakistan was not created, Muslims would still be in majority in Panjab, Kashmir, NWFP, Balochistan and Bengal at least, with a huge buffer of them within India, they would at least have local governments in their majority areas, they wouldn't have feudals and criminal minded army generals, with higher literacy rate and possibly a Muslim President."

You forgot to mention Sindh, which had also a huge majority of Muslims in 1947.

FARID

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Correction:
Muslims were ruling india back then.
After democracy thingi It would NOTbe possible any more to rule over a hindu mijority by a muslim minority,
So we made pakistan and we cant be happier on our decision

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Even if he was I couldn't care less

**Bhai what ever happened I am thank full to jinnah for pakistan.

and If he was agent of england --- then

1-gory would have given "gurdas pur to pakistan army cantonment there would have made new born pakistan much stronger"
Only dry way to get to kashmir.

2-Gory wouldnt have help india to occupy kashmir
3-Mount banten wouldn't have stop british army from interfaring when indian army was talking over kashmir.

Truth is pakistan strated againest all the odds-- indians lthough it will break apart or they could take it over.
But you can how strong and independent we are
**

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binAadam and Farid:

Dudes, if you think living under a majority Hindu society is so great why don't you immediately apply for a job in India. Since India and it's government is so wonderful. I am sure India is just waiting for Muslims like you to come to their country. BTW, I hear the best place for Muslims to move to in India is Gujarat. They are held in the highest esteem over there. Once over there let us know how good you have it.

Here in Pakistan we admire our great Quaid-e-Azam. Some moron mentioned that we treat him as a prophet. That is not true. He is just a great leader that had the foresight and courage to help create this homeland. No wonder many Muslims tried to make it to Pakistan after creation. I wonder why they didn't try to stay in India.

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XGuru,

All nonsense. I have already replied to similar idiotic post. Don't want to add further.

FARID

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^ good

edited:: I meant was Xgurs

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Are you trying to be deliberately obtuse? Furhter unfortunate division in current state of Pakistan are no reflection on two nation theory. That is like saying immigrationg to Madina was futile after the Fateh of Makkah.
As for your opinions for Jinnah. I dont think this will achieve anything but Muslim at the time of Prophet showed more gratitude to Abu Talib (who never declared islam). Belittling Jinnah (who was a muslim) shows ungratefulness of that Pakistani.

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Better things this time! But they contradict what you say on other threads - in religions esp. Anyway Jinnah was a man of principle. He first tried his best that division of India did not take place.

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:)

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You forgot to mention another side of Pakistani-Mentality that they don't see a matter from their own glasses but use those distributed for free. You have your views about Mr Jinnah because you never analysed Pakistan Movement and the persistent situation in this country, you have borrowed these ideas from the text books at schools and news articles - the propaganda machines.
Remember, heroes are carved in the same way as Mr Jinnah was made a hero; Shaykh Mujeebur Rehman is a Bengladeshi Hero, Columbus who was a pirate is a Western Hero.

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Pakistan is best thing that happened to us. Muslims have neve been or could never be more than 1/3rd of Indian population. On top of that Muslims were poor, uneducated and discriminated against. What cud they have acheived. If Muslims cud really be happy in India, we wud never have seen teh Kashmir struggle.
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Well, so what is your achievement today in education in your Pakistan?
How many Muslims in Pakistan are rich without being the victim of discrimination?

And if you talk about Kashmir then know that your Father of the Nation agreed on Dogra's suggestion that he (the Dogra) will decide where Kashmir goes.

I mean, on what basis, you talk about Pakistan when this is one of the worst places in the world, with no security of life, wealth and honour.

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The best buffer for Muslims of India wud be a strong Pakistan.
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So what your Strong and Atomic Pakistan did when Hindu Extremists were slaughtering Muslims in Gujraat and before that in Baabari Masjid riots?

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Look at Israel, despiet being small it is strong and wields much influence in the region despite 20 bigger countries around us.
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Israel is not a SECULAR state as Mr Jinnah wanted Pakistan to be, Israel is a theocratic state, whose founders didn't work for British but they worked for their own Jews. That is why I say Jews and Christians are much better than the so called Muslims (Seculars), in many respects, whose job is to lick boots of their Western Masters.

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If we have failed despite getting a separate state, what wud have been chances of success if did not have one. If we have sucked as a country, don't blame the existance of country, that pathetic beyond beleif.
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Well, Pakistan is a fact, you are seeing this for 60 years, you admit it is a failed state, with no rule of law, justice and peace, a heaven for corrupt people and criminals.
I don't disagree with you that there are chances, we can make this country better, and I am sure even those who opposed the creation of Pakistan before 1947, want a better and stronger Pakistan, but you have to see what ideas can bring us to the betterment. If they are those which Jinnah gave, then this is wrong, because Jinnah laid a wrong foundation of Pakistan with his sincerity towards the British.

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Jinnah and British both wanted a crippled Pakistan, Jinnah didn't do anything when Indians occupied Juna Garh and Kashmir. It was Jinnah who created the seed of discord within Bengal by making Urdu the national language of both East and West Pakistan while Bengalis who were in majority didn't want Urdu, and there Jinnah acted as a Dictator.

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That is the reason why he left India in 1920s after resigning from Congress and was imported by the British as Moeen Qureshi and Shaukat Aziz were imported in Pakistan.

Funny that Jinnah led Muslim League after getting imported the way Shaukat Aziz won the polls in Tharparkar.

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Mods

pls pls pls let me say a few things in the language morons like these understand......

If there was ever a agent working for interest of others then its the Mulla league that plays havoc on Pakistan of today and pre-partition. Since these incompetent idiots cud not get their version of Pakistan they always criticize its existence and deride Jinnah, in reality these loosers have no one esle to blame but for themselves cause they always made the wrong decision.

List of mulla led political failures in endless and will continue to be the same cause they have a irrational approach that fails to realise their inadequate existence.

May God have mercy on Pakistanis and free them from these mullas. Amen

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These mullahs also respect Jinnah..............................................and call him Quid-e-azam.

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No they didnt, the mollah tullahs and their JI brigade opposed him and the creation of Pakistan. They also say idiotic stuff about him at mosques during sermons and its funny how the mollah tollahs are soo ardent (like mr farid here who lacks brain cells) about living under a Hindu Raaj.

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No they dont.......they dont know jinnah and agha khan.
but why are you being abusive........i dont think your jinnah was like that.