Yet another proof of MQM’s commitment towards social equalities :k:
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^^ lol media thing works.. :D
BTW how many Indians do that? none rather all are against of providing the social rights of Muslims in Indian just an example was Gujrat riots. Mulims in india have to Fight for their basic rights of living.
Re: MQM's social commitment.(Treating Pak Hindus as equal citizens)
good step but a major change in attitude is required.
^^ lol media thing works.. :D
BTW how many Indians do that? none rather all are against of providing the social rights of Muslims in Indian just an example was Gujrat riots. Mulims in india have to Fight for their basic rights of living.
Pls learn about India first before making your Gujarat blah blah.
Yes be in a delusional world thinking craps like Indian Muslims will take up arms etc etc.,like Muslims in Pakistan are killing themselves and killing minorities.
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Well its not just craps we are talking here Arleitter. Its the fact of life and recently a report showed that Muslims in India are worse off then before 1947.
Indian government ordered a huge survey (long due, good step) to find out how bad is the
situation and discrimination against the Muslims. They will have quota in Universities...etc. to give Muslims equal chances.
How can u deny the fact what has happend in Gujrat???? I dont understand you friend.
No one wants Indian Muslilms to take arms against Indian Hindu's or anyone else.
I am still shocked at what u call " Gujrat blah blah" whilst hundreds of Muslims are being burned and killed by extremist Hindu's have some RESPECT for them please.
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^ I have respect for them and I have my closest friend as Muslim.I deny all violence,against all. But without cleaning your kitchen first how will you take care of others?
I have not seen any muslim in India,including my friends talking against India or talking about taking up arms.I see the delusions of grandeur of many.
I was raising my voice for the Hindus,Christians,Ahmdiyas and other minorities of Pakistan.....They are being persecuted from day one...Lets not be blind to facts.
Yes Gujarat was a tragedy .I agree that.But what about religious minorities of Pakistan?Tell me who has raised their voice here for the numerous Christan Women and children burnt alive just two weeks back in Punjab province?
You got shocked for Gujarat.But what about my shock for the numerous atrocities committed against my people in Pakistan?Against my Christian brothers and sisters in Pakistan?What abt Ahmediyas?What abt others?What abt the numerous hindu temples and churches destroyed by extremist elements in Pakistan?What abt the fallen number of Hindus in Pakistan?What abt the ransom money Hindus are paying to these extremist thugs in Pakistan?What abt the millions of money Sikhs paid to Taliban elements in SWAT?What abt the numerous Sikhs displaced because of Tliban?
But the contrast is that ,from outside of India,I have got Pakistanis as my closest friends.I do love your country,culture and tradition.But it does not deter me from speaking truth.
I am sure you are a sensible person my friend.But reality often bites.....
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:) ahhh finally someone who talkes sense and comes up with arguments but i am afraid you are in a denial my friend and ignoring many facts.
Cleaning own kitchen? Who said my kitchen is clean? I can tell you that not only my KITCHEN but also my LIVING ROOM, my DININGROOM and yes i am ashamed to say that even my SLEEPINGROOM IS NOT CLEAN. So putting words in my mouth and assuming i said that my kitchen is not clean is totally baseless.
You say that you have respect or all of them because one of your closest friend is a Muslim. But when you say: "Pls learn about India first before making your Gujarat blah blah" that does not show of much respect is it not my friend :).
You said that: "I did not see any muslim in India, including my friends talking against India or talking about taking up arms.I see the delusions of grandeur of many."
I really do not know why you mention this but there are more then 150 million Muslims :)
I wonder with how many did you speak and asked them wether they are happy or unhappy about how they live in India and how they are treated by Hindu (extremists).
I personally know many Indian Muslims inside India and those who live in Holland and they admit that there are lot of probems in India and that they are being discriminated on daily bases and systematicly. Even recently Emraan Hashmi complained about the fact that he could not find a house in Mumbai, India. And he shared the same incident with othe Muslim actors and they admitted that they also were treated like this.
What about the fact that even the BEST and TOP class actors who enjoy all the priviliges (Dilip Kumar and his wife) had to admit on TV (yes if you dont believe me its on TV my friend) that they are being harrassed only because they are MUSLIMS.
Yes indeed :) many will be delusioned.
you said:
"I was raising my voice for the Hindus,Christians,Ahmdiyas and other minorities of Pakistan.....They are being persecuted from day one...Lets not be blind to facts"
No one is blind for that, we see that on tv and print media no one can deny this and u are assuming that Pakistani's are doing nothing to condone that. But maybe you are unawar of the fact that besides those minorities (christians, hindus and sikhs) millions and millions of Pakistani Muslims are also the victom of the Landlords, elite and ruling class of Pakistan.
In every society there are morowns who ruin it for the most people. Pakistan is unfortunatly poor country and 75 % of its people are uneducated. So what do you expect.......no problems? Look at the educated and most advanced countries like Germany and other Western countries where in a COURTROOM yes bloody courtroom a Muslim women is killed by some stupid MAN. Look at Holland where a partly with NAZI ideoligy gets so many votes that ehy are most probably the biggest party in the comming elections. Look at france where they are limiting muslim women NOT to wear that they want. so called bloody liberal societies. Well i know its much pleasant to live in the West then in Pakistan at the moment but I never suggested that Pakistan is an ideal country at all.
But dear Arleitter as you condem what is happening against minorities in Pakistan do you also condemn what is happening in INDIA?
*170 million untouchable Dalits who are treated worse then anmimals?
*millions of black widows who cannot marry second time after their husband is passed away. If they are lucky they are alive else they are burned together with the husband.
*Christian procecution in Orissa and other states. As i assume your a Christian so you must be aware of the fact what is happening in India against teh Christians...if not then just type: christian beating, christian violence in Indian then you will know what i mean.
*Gujrat.
*Assaam.
*Sikhs being discriminated yes ask them they will tell you.
*Kashmiries being beaten and Kashmiri women baeing raped. recently two women raped and Indians ADMITTED that themselfs. Recently they found mass graves in Indian held kashmir. Even the European parlement passed a resolution condemming the Indians for that.
*Millions of teenage girls and boys in prostitutions.
*Well i can continue here to tell you more but u get my point i hope :)
You do not pay much attention to Gujrat inyour reply my friend i am saddened about that. You really think no one condemmed that? my goodness where to you live? do you have tv or radio? no access to print media? please watch pakistani media and u will see how much these acts against Pakitani minorities are condemmned. I personally did a story for Geo tv (in Holland) about Christian being procecuted. So please know your facts then talk. Do not blame 150 million pakistanis and bluntly say they do not condemn the killings and unfair treatment of Pakistanis minorities. I am sure here on this GHUP CHUP forum most if not all members condemn it.
Well reality often bites but do not create your own reality my friend because that does not even CHEW let alone bite. REALitly yes true fact bite. because facts are facts. we all have our own perception of reality. :)
Cheers.
Pls learn about India first before making your Gujarat blah blah.
Yes be in a delusional world thinking craps like Indian Muslims will take up arms etc etc.,like Muslims in Pakistan are killing themselves and killing minorities.
Why you just want to keep blind folded to the Reality and just fingering others? Get some brain to think about it and then speak.. If you can!
Why you just want to keep blind folded to the Reality and just fingering others? Get some brain to think about it and then speak.. If you can!
Thats what I want you to do.Get some brain and then talk.Otherwise your craps like Indian Muslims taking up arms and all are simply delusional.
:) ahhh finally someone who talkes sense and comes up with arguments but i am afraid you are in a denial my friend and ignoring many facts.
Cleaning own kitchen? Who said my kitchen is clean? I can tell you that not only my KITCHEN but also my LIVING ROOM, my DININGROOM and yes i am ashamed to say that even my SLEEPINGROOM IS NOT CLEAN. So putting words in my mouth and assuming i said that my kitchen is not clean is totally baseless.
You say that you have respect or all of them because one of your closest friend is a Muslim. But when you say: "Pls learn about India first before making your Gujarat blah blah" that does not show of much respect is it not my friend :).
You said that: "I did not see any muslim in India, including my friends talking against India or talking about taking up arms.I see the delusions of grandeur of many." I really do not know why you mention this but there are more then 150 million Muslims :) I wonder with how many did you speak and asked them wether they are happy or unhappy about how they live in India and how they are treated by Hindu (extremists).
I personally know many Indian Muslims inside India and those who live in Holland and they admit that there are lot of probems in India and that they are being discriminated on daily bases and systematicly. Even recently Emraan Hashmi complained about the fact that he could not find a house in Mumbai, India. And he shared the same incident with othe Muslim actors and they admitted that they also were treated like this.
What about the fact that even the BEST and TOP class actors who enjoy all the priviliges (Dilip Kumar and his wife) had to admit on TV (yes if you dont believe me its on TV my friend) that they are being harrassed only because they are MUSLIMS.
Yes indeed :) many will be delusioned.
you said: "I was raising my voice for the Hindus,Christians,Ahmdiyas and other minorities of Pakistan.....They are being persecuted from day one...Lets not be blind to facts"
No one is blind for that, we see that on tv and print media no one can deny this and u are assuming that Pakistani's are doing nothing to condone that. But maybe you are unawar of the fact that besides those minorities (christians, hindus and sikhs) millions and millions of Pakistani Muslims are also the victom of the Landlords, elite and ruling class of Pakistan.
In every society there are morowns who ruin it for the most people. Pakistan is unfortunatly poor country and 75 % of its people are uneducated. So what do you expect.......no problems? Look at the educated and most advanced countries like Germany and other Western countries where in a COURTROOM yes bloody courtroom a Muslim women is killed by some stupid MAN. Look at Holland where a partly with NAZI ideoligy gets so many votes that ehy are most probably the biggest party in the comming elections. Look at france where they are limiting muslim women NOT to wear that they want. so called bloody liberal societies. Well i know its much pleasant to live in the West then in Pakistan at the moment but I never suggested that Pakistan is an ideal country at all.
But dear Arleitter as you condem what is happening against minorities in Pakistan do you also condemn what is happening in INDIA? *170 million untouchable Dalits who are treated worse then anmimals? *millions of black widows who cannot marry second time after their husband is passed away. If they are lucky they are alive else they are burned together with the husband. *Christian procecution in Orissa and other states. As i assume your a Christian so you must be aware of the fact what is happening in India against teh Christians...if not then just type: christian beating, christian violence in Indian then you will know what i mean. *Gujrat. *Assaam. *Sikhs being discriminated yes ask them they will tell you. *Kashmiries being beaten and Kashmiri women baeing raped. recently two women raped and Indians ADMITTED that themselfs. Recently they found mass graves in Indian held kashmir. Even the European parlement passed a resolution condemming the Indians for that. *Millions of teenage girls and boys in prostitutions. *Well i can continue here to tell you more but u get my point i hope :)
You do not pay much attention to Gujrat inyour reply my friend i am saddened about that. You really think no one condemmed that? my goodness where to you live? do you have tv or radio? no access to print media? please watch pakistani media and u will see how much these acts against Pakitani minorities are condemmned. I personally did a story for Geo tv (in Holland) about Christian being procecuted. So please know your facts then talk. Do not blame 150 million pakistanis and bluntly say they do not condemn the killings and unfair treatment of Pakistanis minorities. I am sure here on this GHUP CHUP forum most if not all members condemn it.
Well reality often bites but do not create your own reality my friend because that does not even CHEW let alone bite. REALitly yes true fact bite. because facts are facts. we all have our own perception of reality. :)
Cheers.
^I think you have not facts right my friend.
First of all I am a Hindu ,not a Christian.
You said...........
**170 million untouchable Dalits who are treated worse then anmimals?*
**millions of black widows who cannot marry second time after their husband is passed away. If they are lucky they are alive else they are burned together with the husband*.
**Christian procecution in Orissa and other states. As i assume your a Christian so you must be aware of the fact what is happening in India against teh Christians...if not then just type: christian beating, christian violence in Indian then you will know what i mean.*
*Gujrat.
*Assaam.
*Sikhs being discriminated yes ask them they will tell you.
*Kashmiries being beaten and Kashmiri women baeing raped. recently two women raped and Indians ADMITTED that themselfs. Recently they found mass graves in Indian held kashmir. Even the European parlement passed a resolution condemming the Indians for that.
*Millions of teenage girls and boys in prostitutions.
*Well i can continue here to tell you more but u get my point i hope
I got your point and I also know that you have all these as part of a state sponsored propaganda.There are discriminations against Dalits but not in the same style and length you have mentioned.I know where it is coming from my friend.All these are part of our western neighbours curruculam and instilled in school syllabus.For this there is only one receiver.Pak students.No other people in this world will buy these points.
If you are trying to say about the custom called `Sati',I think it is totally wrong ,it is not practised in India now and I wonder how unsuccessful you are in dealing with state sponsored propaganda.
There was a violence against Christians in Orissa but the violence was soon under control.Its was an isolated incident.Whast abt pakistan?Authorities did not move their finger even to contain violence aainst Christians?
Pls show me one Sikh complaining abt harassment in India.But no surprise ..state sponsored propaganda.
Again Kashmir.... Those who done those rapes have been arrested and law suits have been filed against them,for your information.Can you show me one instance in Pakistan where such a step has been taken?
That too C.B.I,India's foremost investigating Agency is handling this case.
Your all other points need not mention here because they are part of a wide spread conspiracy.Some have been talking abt Kashmir independence for decades and abetted and aided terrorism by sending people across the border,but till date nothing has happened and Kahmiris have started denouncing terrorism.
I have no wonder seeing your statement.because my Pakistani friends have told me how vehemently Pak ruling machine is trying to seed the feeling of hatred in them from the very begining.The sad point is that pakistanis become a subject of this utter lie.
I can bet you ,you cant spot a single Indian minority denouncing India.Whereas I can show you Paki Muslims themselves blaming Pakistan for their downtrodden life.Thats the difference.
Condemnations happen in Pakistan but from a few pockets but the perpetrators of these heinous crimes against Minorities are still at large.The sad thing is that Law enforcement agencies have turned a blind eye to it.U.S has listed Pakistan ,a country where religious minorities are being suppressed.
Now my friend,pls have your facts right, before rolling out your statements.I want you to give us facts and not state sponsored songs.This is why I urge my Pakistani friends,first get facts and then do your rhetoric before venturing out.
Since you have mentioned Kashmir,I am forced to make comments on Baluchistan.Whats happening there?Why the rights of baloch people are getting dimnished and rejected?Why are Baloch people getting killed?The atrocities against Baloch people are condemned worldwide.
Do you know what had happened to Millions of Bangla People under the leadership of West Pakis?
What abt the killings of Muslim women for the sake of religious beliefs?What abt the honour killings?what abt your infamous blasphemy laws?I have thousands of points to ask you... I hope you are O.K with all these...
India has got its great image among international community.With these framed lines you can not undermine India and Indians.Thats why I always say clean your kitchen first. :)
Cheers
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hehehehehe this is so funny really you are more humorous then i thought. So everything i said is state sponsored propaganda and conspiracy hehehehehe :)
you are really a joker. with intelligent person i can debate but not when u say that everything is conspiracy. I think you really need to mature and grow up because you are living in your own fantasy. I think you can access internet if you do not read newspapers or watch television. then you will see what is happening in India.
I can argue with someone intelligent who can discuss anything and does not think everything against india is conspiracy theory but with you oh no no point its just a waste of my valueable time.
Keep on dreaming, cheers.
^^ just few word for him summun-bukmun :D so dont worry.
Thats what I want you to do.Get some brain and then talk.Otherwise your craps like Indian Muslims taking up arms and all are simply delusional.
Did I say that? or did that world saying it? :D get some Ice tea buddy.. keep cool as you cant deny what it was, what it is and what it will be from indian shameless govt regarding Muslims in India
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And i wonder where u live wether u are Pakistani hindu or not. If you are born in Pakistan and you live in Pakisitan or used to live in Pakistan then talk constructively not destructively.
else India is a big country no one is stopping you to move there my friend.
i will pack your stuff myself if you need anyhelp i am there for you.
;)
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Christian pastor beating in india:
1984 Indian State TERRORISM against minorities
children forced into prostitution
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hmmmm u r so funny my friend
u said no sikh on this planet against india?
are u awake? i want to know how young you are. did u lie about your age to join this forum to spead hate and division?
Hindu Indian governments operation against Sikh religion - Khalistan worth fighting for!!
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Dont Mess with us or you will have no chance to regret it. KHALISTAN RULZZZZ
hehehehehe this is so funny really you are more humorous then i thought. So everything i said is state sponsored propaganda and conspiracy hehehehehe :) you are really a joker. with intelligent person i can debate but not when u say that everything is conspiracy. I think you really need to mature and grow up because you are living in your own fantasy. I think you can access internet if you do not read newspapers or watch television. then you will see what is happening in India.
I can argue with someone intelligent who can discuss anything and does not think everything against india is conspiracy theory but with you oh no no point its just a waste of my valueable time.
Keep on dreaming, cheers.
Infact I wasted my time debating with you.Hope you yourself can learn the meaning of joker from your post.Thanks :)
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ah running away i see well
i dont blame you :)
Re: MQM's social commitment.(Treating Pak Hindus as equal citizens)
put your money where your mouth is my friend
wake up wake up lolz
^^ just few word for him summun-bukmun :D so dont worry.
Did I say that? or did that world saying it? :D get some Ice tea buddy.. keep cool as you cant deny what it was, what it is and what it will be from indian shameless govt regarding Muslims in India
Pls go back and see what you said earlier.