^ Dont try to read too much into it. By nothing to lose I only meant in terms of control. Other than Liyari where PPP has strong hold, ANP really does not have any hold, so they dont have anything to lose.
and I totally agree with your view that all of these are criminals and killers and sick minds using ethnic base to run their political agendas.
I dont know where you are from but I have seen this all from the eye of the storm. Area where I used to live was not overly dominated by any ethnicity and hence we were subject to witness some of the most intense cross fire between MQM, Haqiqi, PML and Punjabi Pakhtoon Itehaad. War that was waged to get control of the area (late 80s and early 90s). We have paid BHATTA to all these, we have been threaten by all these!
No one can really justify any party as a non-killer or peaceful party including MQM, ANP, PPP, PPI, PML, JI etc etc. Its just that some has killed more than others for obvious reasons.
PS: I have used PML coz at that time it was united PML and not N, S etc etc
and you are absolutely right when you say all are killers, Its just that some has killed more than others.
for those who might say that its a reaction of killing the MPA, i wonder how can they justify killing soooo many people just as a reaction of one MPA got killed?!?!?! though no matter what party he belonged to, its always bad to kill a person to prove your point or just to gain some control over some part of the city
even this particular killing of MPA was suspicious itself, he got killed in MQM's own area, and MQM has a long list of killing their own people either to get rid of some "qaid ka ghaddar" or gain some sympathy of masses by presenting themselves as "the victim"
i'm not saying that this was one such case, but it could be, who knows, its suspicious, only time will tell
Its funny how some MQM supporters try to defend their party by blaming others of the same crimes. Chichora, I think Punjabi Imran Khan and Punjab Jamaati Nawaz Sharif might have killed the MPA right?
It's sad this MPA died. However, 50 or so people died immediately following his death and more will die. Their blood along with the blood of the thousands killed in the last 1-2 years isnt inferior.
Its funny how some MQM supporters try to defend their party by blaming others of the same crimes. Chichora, I think Punjabi Imran Khan and Punjab Jamaati Nawaz Sharif might have killed the MPA right?
It's sad this MPA died. However, 50 or so people died immediately following his death and more will die. Their blood along with the blood of the thousands killed in the last 1-2 years isnt inferior.
There is no need to get all emotional. You never had courage to accept that there are other parties in bloody qabza game of Karachi in addition to MQM that is. (or you are not familiar with ground realities which btw I dont think is the case) and yes your beloved Nawaz Sharif's workers were also involved in this in early 90s.
YES the ratio of people killed by MQM out numbers the people killed by other parties but that is merely due to the fact that MQM workers out numbers other workers by huge ratio in Karachi and not because other parties are farishta.
Who get killed? 80% of the time innocent people from all ethnicities who from their appearance appeared to be pathan, punjabi, sindhi, balochi or mohajir.
You are just speaking out of your hatred for Punjabis. Even the MQM hasnt blamed Punjabi Imran Khan or NAwaz Sharif for this or any target killing mess.It would seem too absurd.
Its just the MQM who kills innocent people my friend. Yes, the ANP retaliates, but their strike back is too weak, and their vote bank is too poor.
MQM has killed far more people than their comrades, the TTP have done so.
Today six more have been killed since morning.
Last two days most of the killed were innocent and poor labor or passer-byes of a specified ethnic group.
Who killed them ?
All killed by fire.
Everyone knew ANP and Taliban are fighting against each other since years.
Just the actual terrorist came out with their arms in their area of hold and targeted these poor innocent people.
Dirty play of fire and blood.
Replayed once again. Zia kay najaiz bachay kab hamain maaf karain gay.
man your ppp is in govt in karachi with both of the fighting parties. federal interior minister is of ppp
provincial interior minister is of ppp
FIA and IB both are under ppp, they know everything. they can stop it in few hours, all they need is to get a few leaders (in all three parties) by neck, and everything will be sorted out. but only if great ppp ever want to talk about something other than "re-conciliation" and "mafhimat ki siyasat"... remember ppp is their partner in govt. if these are all zia kay bachay, what they are doing in govt with PPP?????? that makes ppp also zia kay bhanjay bhateejay? no?
I have never blamed Imran Khan for this. Nawaz’s Party was for sure involve in this. You simply have never been to ground zero. Its my first hand experience and no taunt of your can nullify that.
It seems like for you Imran and Nawaz mean whole punjab (and all punjabis) then there is nothing anyone can do about it. Keep cheering your leaders :k:
lol @ ANP’s (and others) strike back is too weak. Off course coz they dont have feet on the ground to kill more not that they are farishta !
Punjabi and pathans are brave poeple and believe on honest living. I yet to know any leader who lives in England, runs a full office and 5 days a week hace televise speeches in Major cities but yet to disclose his source of income. Only fight MQM is fighting because of 100% control in Karachi and 100% Bhata from everybody regardless of their ethnicity. WHY THE F ANYBODY WANNA GIVE THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY TO THESE SKINNY AS___S SO THEY CAN BUY TT's AND THAT KILLER ORGANIZER RUN HIS BRITISH SHOW?
I remember one day when innocent (actually) brother of Altaf was killed and in reply they killed the brother of the CM of that time (He was too innocent and never a politician). After more than a decade I came to know that brother of Altaf was killed by some 'Naraz' activists of MQM (Not Haqiqi) . But the public of Karachi faced just like these days.
Just like how for you bashing MQM equals bashing the mohajir community.
Aik tu GS par bawakoofoon walli batoon na karo, how do u know i havent been to your holy ground zero? Ab mey tujhe apna birth certificate mail karoon kya? this is the internet, lets keep a lid on your adventures, anecdotes and first hand experiences and focus on facts.
The fact of the matter is simple, and you had no answre to this. MQM is responsible for the violence in Karachi. And if you say it takes two to tango, then how come theres no ethnic cleansing going on in any other city, there theres more powerful and multiple parties operating, and yes they hate each other too.
If this is true,
Than it is a right message.
Because Taliban never attacked Karachi except 18th October 2007.
That attack was also a sponsored attack.
Ashurah blast and other attacks were linked with Sipah e Sahabah .
They never attack on their ' Najaiz' brothers.
MQM ,PML Q and PML N.
Death toll reached to 92 Karachi riots toll soars to 92
Tension deepens in port city of Karachi as incidents of target killings continue unabated, two more people were killed, bringing the death toll to 92 since Monday.
The violence was sparked with the killing of Muttahida Qaumi Movement MPA Raza Haider in a mosque, on Monday evening. His death triggered violence across the major towns of Karachi. The latest riots were reported in Metropol, Kasba Colony, Orangi Town, Site and Banaras. Incidents of firing and arson were also reported from different parts of the city.
Pakistan Peoples Party activist who was injured on August 4 succumbed to injuries at Bahadur Shah Hospital. At least five people were injured in the in two separate firing incidents reported in Korangi Zia Colony and Ranchor Line. Large contingents of Rangers and Police were deployed in the area of Site after exchange of firing between two groups was reported. Police and Rangers have apprehended as many as 15 suspected terrorists from different parts of the city.
It is pertinent to mention that despite a military operation looming in the anarchy-ridden Karachi; however life started returning to normalcy.(Dunya TV)
Note it that MQM didn't claim claim any of its activist. So now you can understand who killed these Pakistanis.
Most of them were innocent laborers and from an ethnic community.
