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^ Ditto and welcome back to the motherland !
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We live in America, My husband is from Pakistan and recently got admission to go back to school in Karachi. He has made 3 trips in the past 6 mos. Ive asked him that we should all move there and he said the condition is not safe for Americans. I still say it is a good idea perfect way for our 2 daughters to learn religion and culture. I have been to Pakistan but it was over 15 years ago. I loved it then, Also I wouldnt have any family support. So best of luck to you I just feel famlies shouldNot be seperated at any cost work with it.
well as for narrow mindedness, i must say most pakistanis are kind of nosy people and want you to notice their narrow mindedness by doing annoying things and getting in your way of things... I have experienced that many times that's why I wanted to get that to your attention.
So what is the progress? when you are coming that is...
Man with a plan: Yes in the end there is no place like Pakistan. The crime wave, bombing etc does scare me a little but in the end I also know that I can't control when/how I die, so no point stressing over that. I can however control, how / where I live and what I contribute.
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so true, life is too short too hang around in one country, live a little theres no harm in trying...try it out if u dont like it, cm back..!
What the hell is wrong with you two ... the OP asked for an opinion about living in karachi and pakistan and wat kinda adjustment he would have to make ... you both look civilized and educated from the way you are expressing your ideas ... thats a whole different issue if these ideas are total crap and nothing but bashing each other ... so grow up and act like mature civilized human beings that you are and if you wanna take shots at each other then use pm ...
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Ansoon - It looks like you've pretty much made up your mind to do this, so best of luck to you. I admire your reasons to going back and giving something to the country. I hope things work out for you. I'm not sure if you mentioned where exactly in Pakistan you'll be going to. I've only lived in Karachi and like most people have mentioned; it can be a very volatile place. I don't know if I would have the courage to go back and live there after getting used to the comforts of the West, but I applaud you for trying.
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[mod] Stick to the topic at hand people...[/mod]
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So Ansoon....what happened?
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Everyone has a different perspective. If you feel like going and you like the place, it will work for you. What one person hates, teh other person wants and so on. As for me, I moved to Pakistan when I was a child from the UK and hated every minute of living there in Pakistan. I always wanted to move back to teh West and now I am in the US and I don't even want to go to Pakistan for a visit. Here in the West, you don't even have to boil water, there are no electricty problems, and not to forget the armed robbers and kidnappers that come to houses to rob you.
Even day to day things like people coming over without calling and at all times of teh day or night is terrible to me. The only thing that I miss is the servants and maids. Over here its way too expensive to ahve servants etc. Maybe if you are very rich in Pakistan , its not a probelm, but then where in the world is it a problem if you are rich.
Everyone has a different perspective. If you feel like going and you like the place, it will work for you. What one person hates, teh other person wants and so on. As for me, I moved to Pakistan when I was a child from the UK and hated every minute of living there in Pakistan. I always wanted to move back to teh West and now I am in the US and I don't even want to go to Pakistan for a visit. Here in the West, you don't even have to boil water, there are no electricty problems, and not to forget the armed robbers and kidnappers that come to houses to rob you.
Even day to day things like people coming over without calling and at all times of teh day or night is terrible to me. The only thing that I miss is the servants and maids. Over here its way too expensive to ahve servants etc. Maybe if you are very rich in Pakistan , its not a probelm, but then where in the world is it a problem if you are rich.
Near enough everybody in Pakistan has UPS unless you live in a tent. Nobody even knows when the electricity comes and goes so its hardly a problem.
Near enough everybody in Pakistan has UPS unless you live in a tent. Nobody even knows when the electricity comes and goes so its hardly a problem.
UPS does not make the AC run (its way too hot for just a fan) nor does it make the fridge work. Yes, more expensive generators do make these applainces work, but no one in my family has those kind of generators. Oh by the way, my father always tells me that the electricity goes off so many time sthat sometime there is no time for even the UPS getting recharged.
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I guess my experience is different. F sectors in Islamabad hardly have load shedding and when they do you never notice. Our UPS is from abroad and it turns on the lounge A/C and everything else including the fridge of course.
I love life in Pak and where I live is a huge reason for that. I couldnt live anywhere else in Pak. My uncle lives in Pindi and like you just said he says the electricity goes so much there is no time to charge the UPS.
Pak is heaven for some and hell for others. Depends where you go and settle.
Only a few sectors don't have any loadshedding issues, majority of the area's in Pakistan are facing upto 18 hours of load-shedding.
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Its not just the electricity. As I said, its each his own. The positive points are family, familiar looking people and surroundings and maids. Not to mention getting clothes made very easily, lol!
However, for a person like me, I can't fathom sending my kid to school and wondering if he will be ok because a bomb went off somewhere. People lying and taking everything slow and casual. E.g. if soemone gives you a date to get anything done, it won't be done at that date and they infact will be offended that you even asked despite they telling ypu their problem. Peopel give remarks such as "oh! you weren't this fat last year" as if ist a given you think yourself as fat and so on.
I just can't take people's general attitude and all else that comes with it. But if the poster can cope with that and shares a different perspective then we should welcome his decison.
I guess my experience is different. F sectors in Islamabad hardly have load shedding and when they do you never notice. Our UPS is from abroad and it turns on the lounge A/C and everything else including the fridge of course.
I love life in Pak and where I live is a huge reason for that. I couldnt live anywhere else in Pak. My uncle lives in Pindi and like you just said he says the electricity goes so much there is no time to charge the UPS.
Pak is heaven for some and hell for others. Depends where you go and settle.
I agree with your last sentence, however, an average person in the West does not have to face day to day problems like those in Pakistan, while its different in Pakistan, only fairly well off people have a better time.
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Lol, I just realized this topic was bumped from over a year ago. Does Ansoon even post on here anymore? If so, wonder if he made the move and stuff.
Near enough everybody in Pakistan has UPS unless you live in a tent. Nobody even knows when the electricity comes and goes so its hardly a problem.
Are you serious? Everywhere I have stayed has both UPS and a generator yet you most definitely do feel it. UPS will only run the lights and maybe a fan or two. A generator allows some AC but anything like an iron or kettle will overload it.
And unless you are very wealthy, you're going to feel the pinch of running a generator especially in the summer.
Like eastern said, a lot of the time, the UPS doesn't even get to charge. And as Gina has said, the load shedding is extreme in 99% of areas.
The lack of electricity and the heat are problems that people who have lived there all their lives (like my inlaws) find it hard to cope it.
Anyway, reading your next post, it seems like you have the kind of life there that a fraction of a percentage of people have. Hardly typical life in Pakistan.
You need 4-5 huge batteries to work an UPS 2 connected and 2 spares and fully charged, generators require diesel..diesel is so expensive in Pakistan these days..people revert to CNG. CNG isn't available 2 days in a week..
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Ive just told you how it is in my house there. Electricity goes twice a day only for one hour each time at which point our ups comes on which has been imported. It turns on every rooms fan, one socket, the fridge, microwave etc and the lounge a/c. We dont feel a thing.
People in suburbs will. I guess I was just assuming that the OP would be moving to the city. In the suburbs life is hard for people.
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PS weve never had more than one battery in our house for the UPS.