Mother's Day

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quote=Crescent_ Western Ideologies aren't limited to political ideologies only..

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An ideology by definition hinges around politics. It is what I said, the intellectual basis for a poltical movement. Some Islamists (like the one I mentioned), used to view the world strictly through and ideological lens, and so everything, from the food we eat to our accent to the way we sneeze, became a matter of ideology. It's a rather confused state to be in, imho...

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(b) Harmless? Their economies turn scales on these days if you're familiar with economics, you'll understand why this is. Secondly, it limits the love for a mother for one day.

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I'm not familiar with that concept turning scales...and as for limiting love for a mother to one day, again that's more wishful thinking than actual fact. My major point is, if we are going to critique something, let's do it on the basis of reality. Let's not invent reasons to hate something and try to will these things into reality.

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So those mothers rotting in a home, are treated with care for one day, and left to rot for the rest of the year.

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Generalization. It's certainly not looked at as the norm here, nor is it something that is considered normal. It DOES happen though, and let's be honest...it happens in Muslim lands too.

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If this day was an awareness day to make EVERYONE love their mother EVERYDAY (what islam teaches) then it would be right.

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It is, in part, the intent of the event...

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(c) Refer to the beginning post. Mother's day has greater links to religious motives than valentines day.

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I have already debunked this. I will repeat, that Mother's day has links to the American civil war, not some pagan greek festival.

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Well i can't explain it to anyone who doesn't believe in hadith books...sorry
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Who would that be?

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Dunno...I'd assume they're the same, but then that's probably not a safe bet...is it on the same day?

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Thats me

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^ nothing really to be proud of, i'd say.

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its not a matter of being proud or not, its the matter of using commen sense or what you believe in.

I can give you an example; look at your nick "Sharaabi" are you proud of it? if not why you took it, if yes arnt you promoting something haraam.

anyway me believing in something or not, is not under question here, so forget about it.

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to sharaabi
you have a good understanding of islam.......but i don't like your nick bcoz it does'nt suit you.you should change it really.

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Wether you beleive it or not is upto you, Allah will not punish you for loving your mother on mothers day. And he wont punish you for cutting a cake on your birthday, or for setting up a tree on christmas.

All of you show internse hatred towards non-beleivers, and thats the base of todays Islamic-extremism. I remember hearing somewhere "Dont insult their God(s), so that they dont insult your God (Allah)" I think this phrase is very important and all of you "Islamic" people should learn from it. If you hate and completely refuse to accept their festivals (like mothers day), they will hate ur festivals (ie Eid, Ramadan, etc). This will only promote hatred btween the two. Lets just say all muslims started to respect mothers day, maybe then Christians would try celebrating Eid? They might see the strength of Islam through this, perhaps even convert. Arent we supposed to call other people to Islam?? We cant do it by hating, Hareem, we just cant. Hating leads to 9/11, which leads to more hating and leads to Iraq situatuion and thus more hating.

Im not saying we should join them in their idol worship, or anything they do that is haraam. But the good that they do, is it ok for us to not learn from it just because they do it?

It appears to me, that as a muslim, you seem compelled to hate non-muslims. You think they are inferior, and you are the "chosen one". You think everything you do is good, and everything they do is bad. I think thats wrong, they can be good muslims too, but the image of muslims painted by us is really bad, and this worsens it.

This is my last post on this thread. I hope my point got through. No hard feelings.

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Care to explain where hear this phrase? At one of your Christmas parties?

Because as far as i know, this doesnt go in accordance to the Quran and Sunnah.

Had this been the rule, Ibrahim (as) wouldnt have destroyed the idols, his town folks were worshipping.

Had this been the rule, Rasoolallah (sas) wouldnt have taken Ali along with him, during the dark hours of the night, to break the idols the Kuffars of Qureish would worship.

The Kuffar of Qureish didnt have any problems with Rasoolallah's dawah. They had all agreed to live happily together, to you your God and to us ours. It was only Rasoolallah's constant attempts to challenge their gods and proving them false, and this was the practice of Ibrahim (as) too, that they drove him out of their land and waged wars with him.

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[quote=Pakap]
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. Lets just say all muslims started to respect mothers day, maybe then Christians would try celebrating Eid? They might see the strength of Islam through this, perhaps even convert. Arent we supposed to call other people to Islam??

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So the purpose of celebrating mother's day or christmass or easter is that they(non muslims)might become muslims by seeing that thier muslim neibhours are decorating a christmass tree or doing other ritual........pakap i have'nt seen any convert who has converted bcoz his muslim friend or neibhour used to celebrate thier(non muslims)festivals.Have you seen any?

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no your point has'nt got through yet..........

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I can't believe this debate is still raging.
Actually.....I can.

I expressed myself ad-nauseum in another thread so I won't repeat it all here.

But I do want to know.....and if you have participated in this thread then please answer my question:

Does anyone here have a mother, or father for that matter, that has passed away?

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sorry i don't get your question

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Are both of your parents alive?

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Hmmm! Conversion is a far fetched thingy. If we can save what we have, that would be a huge achievement. The way things are being run by Mullahs and other beardos, things don't look good.

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have you read all of my post or just that bit

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no i became an orphan in my early teens.

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the reason of iraq war is'nt 9 sep.......it was hidden weapons of mass destruction in iraq bro....................that america will never be able to find in iraq.

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Then what was Saddam trying to hide from UN inspectors? His toap, or filafil?

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Really sorry to hear about your parents Hareem.

If you celebrate christmas with your christian friends, maybe theyll celebrate Eid with u. If every muslim did that, perhaps some of the better non-beleivers will see the light while celebrating Eid. One british guy converted on some arguement with his neighbour that led him to read Quran. Limitation is in the mind only.

If non-beleivers give you a chance to remember your mother or to decorate your house, why miss it man, why miss it? Would Allah reject your good deed just because it was influenced by non-beleivers??

It seems we dont agree on much in religious matters so lets call of the debate. You wont change and I wont change. Lets call it in, eh buddy?

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What is it that we have now that could be saved and could thus be regarded as a huge achievement?

Secondly, who do you think is apt for position or should be giving dawah to Muslims?

I believe I had asked you in another thread, as to what should be the source of learning Islam?

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