Mothers are more apathetic towards their children if they were CSDs

Re: Mothers are more apathetic towards their children if they were CSDs

You started this entire thread based on an assumption that CSD is actually having a negative effect on the babies (ie. that’s why you posted a “study” of 12 women which came to this conclusion). NICE guidelines talk about the medical risks to the women herself. But there is no mention of the babies born as a result of CSD vs. VD.

What I specifically asked is if you were able to find a RELIABLE study that validates what you were trying to prove by the title of this thread and the 1st post…that CSD has a negative effect on the babies (ie. by making mothers less responsive towards them). And that answer seems to be “No”. So far you have no been able to find a solid study that actually shows conclusively that CSD babies are experiencing some type of harm as a result of the CSD itself.

As for cons for the woman herself…again…of course CS carries risks b/c it is major abdominal surgery. I don’t think anyone here can deny that. Whether or not the cons outweigh the pros are a matter of personal opinion and no point in debating that b/c it really doesn’t matter what you or I think. At the end, it is up to the pregnant woman to decide what risks she is willing to take with her own body based on her own research, and a detailed discussion with her OB and anesthesiologist.

Re: Mothers are more apathetic towards their children if they were CSDs

I disagree … I feel the initial study is still relevant and the NICE guidance does include risk to baby as well as mum … and cons and pros are not a personal opinion - the personal opinion is the choice that is exercised - the mothers who choose it will do so on the grounds of either being unaware of the risks or will take the risks of one procedure over taking the risks in the other procedure. It is possible that there is no side-effect in either form of birth. The guidance is based on risk of certain side-effects … and to by looking at the thread title again all you need to look in to it is as an article of information …

This CSD is having a negative effect on the babies is not my argument - my argument is that CSD is more and more readily being taken up as an equal alternative to natural birth. I wanted to show that natural birth despite the New World Order’s disdain for it - has remarkable wisdoms - the pain and effort are attached to the bonding process of mother to child. Having babies is not a punishment but a jihad towards a fruitful outcome. My basis is to show that Allah (SWT) is Rahman and Raheem and not a punisher to womankind as the Christians take the idea of birth.

Re: Mothers are more apathetic towards their children if they were CSDs

:konfused: Huh? I may have it missed it since I don’t frequent this forum…but have you actually seen threads here that lead you to believe that women here think giving birth naturally is a punishment? I didn’t realize the Christian idea of VD was taken so seriously by the women (majority of whom are Muslims) on GS.

BTW, so if a woman chooses to have a CS…a major abdominal surgery which carries risks/has a longer recover time than a VD…do you think that’s “jihad towards a fruitful outcome?” After all…what exactly is this outcome we’re all hoping for? A safe delivery for mother and baby right?

Birthing is not a punishment for women. Could it be that maybe that’s why Allah has allowed women to have options like epidural and other pain relievers…and even a CS for a woman who wants to choose CS for whatever reason…as a way of letting us know that birthing isn’t a punishment? Perhaps hat’s why He has allowed us to have options so we can choose the option that will make it easier on us physically/psychologically (according to our own belief). :hmmm: