Most favored nation status, good or bad?

MFN status to India beneficial for Pakistan

ISLAMABAD: Local and international trade research studies have revealed that restoration of normal trade relations or grant of the Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status to India could be beneficial to Pakistan in broader terms.

A presentation, made to the International Monetary Fund’s (IMF) Mission on Pak-India Trade Relations last week, analysed negative and positive aspects of the issue and summed up that perceptions against grant of the MFN status to India were based on fears, a government official told Daily Times on Monday.

The official said that it has been a consistent stand of the government that resolution of the core issue of Kashmir is a cornerstone of Pakistan’s policy for India. The Ministry of Commerce, however, could not make any comments on this aspect of foreign policy, he added.

**The arguments in favour of grant of the MFN status to India are as follow: **

—> Pakistan needs to caste aside its defensive approach viz-a-viz trade with India and should engage India commercially with confidence. The fears are exaggerated and benefits to the economy in the long run will far outweigh the costs.

—> Consumers will benefit form liberalisation of the trade regime with India because some cheaper Indian products will be available to them.

—> The local manufacturers, due to competition with Indian products will be required to be more efficient, which will make them competitive even in the international market, boosting our exports in the long run.

—> The manufacturing sector will be able to procure raw materials and intermediary goods form India at lower prices, which may enable them to compete with India in its domestic market as well as internationally.

—> A liberalised trade regime with India will be appreciated by world buyers and will make it easier for Pakistan to join important regional blocs such as Bangkok Agreement and ASEAN. India has been blocking our entry into regional trading arrangements with the argument that Pakistan has not granted the MFN status to India.

The views against grant of the full MFN status to India are as follows:

—> India is a large economy with exportable surplus and diversified products. The export of textile is only 20 percent of the global Indian exports where 60-70 percent of our exports consist of textiles. India will export a large number of items, including consumer goods, which will disrupt the local industry, resulting in loss of jobs and an increase in poverty.

—> In case the manufacturers of Pakistan make India their major source of supply of raw materials, it might give India room to manipulate supplies at critical times, resulting in commercial as well as a strategic damage.

—> The balance of trade will heavily tilt in favour of India. Although World Bank studies indicate that the global balance of trade of Pakistan will be positively affected (for the import of cheaper raw materials), it has to be seen whether the balance of trade in favour India will be acceptable optically.

—> India provides subsidies to agriculture as well as to many other exported items, resulting in unfair trade practices, which will enable the Indian goods to have a larger market share in Pakistan.

An analysis of the arguments reveals that the perceptions against grant of the MFN status to India are based on fears. The analysis of the arguments can be summed up as follows:



—> Grant of the MFN status to India may simultaneously be coupled with effectively putting in place unfair trade remedial measures to combat dumping, subsidies on exports and certain surge in imports, causing or threatening to cause serious injury to local manufacturers/producers. International laws of these aspects are already in place, which may be activated by the National Tariff Commission (NTC) to enable the government to take appropriate measures promptly.

—> Major manufacturers always keep alternative sources of supplies and it is not likely that India will become the only source of the supply of raw materials and intermediary goods to the local industry.

—> The balance of trade may not be viewed only in the context of bilateral trade with India. In case our global balance of trade becomes more favourable, Pakistan will be a gainer. The argument of the World Bank in this respect has substantial merits.

Courtesy: Daily Times, Lahore, August 23, 2005 ( By Sajid Chaudhry )

Re: Most favored nation status, good or bad?

Very correct...trade must dictate the terms and conditions and not religion....its a secrete of success.

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Not until Kashmir issue is resolved.

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Despite Pakistan having MFN status from India, India still has all kinds of hidden tarifs and trade barriers in place that severally hinder the competativeness of Pakistani exports... So whats the use of a MFN agreement when they are worthless when ground realities are unfavorable to trade... So why should we give India most favored nation status when it seems obvious that in reality its nothing more then a title, and not someting practical...

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Pakistanis has already allowed duty-free import of five essential commodities -- onions, garlic, potatoes, tomatoes, meat and livestock from India through rail and land routes.

So most Pakistanis are eating Indian khana everyday. There is no alternative but to open the trade routes.

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Ok what utter bull****. Granting MFN status helps how? Give me concrete economically sound arguements. As i haven't read any yet.

If you want i can provide you with some very good reports on SAPTA and SAFTA and how every country in the region loses trade because Trade Diversion and no trade creation. Economic liberalization in the region destorys economic benefits for the smalller countries. Bhagwati and Payangari (spelling?) have excellnet paper on the India as the hub and spoke model.

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when china india trade going to be $100 billion why not pakistan join both countries?

The fast economic growth between China and India has opened up a broader market for bilateral trade," said Yang, who disclosed his company had set up a company in India not long ago.

Rajive Kaul, former president of the Confederation of Indian Industry, said in view of the population and regional adjacency of the two countries, it is possible to raise the Sino-Indian trade volume to 100 billion US dollars. China is quite likely to become the biggest trade partner of India
http://english.people.com.cn/200506/07/eng20050607_188962.html

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so why is this listed as a -ve for Pakistan? If trade with India is going to help Pakistan achieve a +ve balance in its global trade, what dumbo would object to it?

Anyway, until Pakistan's politial climate and Pakistanis' insecurity about anything India changes, there's no point trying to push this through. My read of their attituide is that many of them do not mind losing both their eyes as long as an Indian loses an eye.

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common people of pakistan will demand the govermant to trade with india to bring down
prices. they are paying too much money for essential items imported from thousand of miles
just to avoid trade with india.

We can supply white sugar at $360 to $370 per tonne at Wagah," Murkumbi said. “They need sugar in the next 30 days. The shipment period of sugar from Brazil is 45 days,” he said.

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Increasing trade will destory Pakistani industries. Its the most basic economies of scale argument. I mean you learn this in O Level economics in your first week.

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avoiding competion will not make you competant

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which economics course taugh you that CM? how will increasing trade destroy industry?

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You mean you have never heard of - Hub and spoke? Trade creation and trade diversion? Or shall we go to the extremely basic model of comparative advantage?

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jammies, CM as usual is spewing a lot of mediocre bull.

any form of trade is beneficial to both parties economically in the short run, that's economics 101. selective trading lets you have these benefits while protecting those local industries which might be in direct competition. and obviously neither india nor pak is opening up their markets completely to the other even with MFN status.

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What are you nuts?

http://www.columbia.edu/~ap2231/Policy%20Papers/Saarc-wb.pdf

By an Indian Prof. from Columbia University

Read the Paragraph 2 and 3.

I swear the ignorant are blind. Dumbasses.

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^ Well, your point is already expressed in the original post where the advantages and disadvantages are given at the same time. The sad part is, these peole have not read it completely and resorted to blind personal attacks.

I agree with you. This trade is not beneficial forPakistan. The labor is very very cheep in India compared to Pakistan and it will definitly shift the balance altogether.

Besides, where are the core issue with India for which we have ruined ourselves in fighting and nurturing enmity? Where is Kashmir issue? :confused:

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**India refuses to sell cows to Pakistan
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ISLAMABAD: The first consignment of Indian buffaloes and goats will reach Wagah border this week some three months after Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz sanctioned the import of livestock from India to meet domestic demand.

The consignment will consist of 100 buffaloes and 200 goats, sources said. **India has however reportedly refused to sell cows to Pakistan contending that the sale of the ‘mother cow’ could spark religious controversy in the Hindu majority state, sources added. :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: **

Sources said mutton and beef was available in India at a price three times less than in Pakistan. They believed that the import of Indian livestock would considerably reduce meat prices in Pakistan.

The period to keep imported cattle in quarantine house has been slashed from 21 days to five days and the importers have been directed to get their cattle medically examined at the earliest after talks between Jamiatul Quraish officials and Dr Salman Shah, adviser to prime minister on finance. online

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p…_1-8-2005_pg7_2

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Comparitive advantage theory will prove the complete opposite of what you’ve saying you fool! (and I say that with affection)

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as usual, rant on about one thing, and then cite something else. do you even understand what the paper says, CM?

where does it ever mention local industries being hurt? the paper calls for liberalization and lowering of trade tariffs to have beneficial trade in south asia. quite the opposite of what you are claiming. maybe you should get some cliff notes. god what a retard..

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Re-read the paragraphs on page 19. The conclusions of the paper. Heck you need cliff notes. Considering you have no background in trade i am surprised you can rant all you want. Just for you The CM Cliff Notes Dumbass:

Page 19.

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The above analysis suggests that forming a South Asian FTA will probably prove harmful overall, with a low-tariff country such as Sri Lanka benefiting and high-tariff country such as India hurting. At least on economic grounds, a persuasive case for the FTA cannot be made.

Instead, all trade diversion can be avoided if the countries in the region were to liberalize on a non-discriminatory basis. Some...**
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What do you think "prove overall harmful" means? They all get a scrapped knee and call for their mother? The fact is that any thing harmful to the economy is directly related to efficient allocation of resources, employment and industrial development and growth. That is economics 101.

@FJ how does it prove me wrong? In the case of Pakistan and India, India has a comparative advantage in almost all sectors compared to Pakistan. So if that is true, then inefficient resources would be taken out of inefficient (by comparision) Pakistani industries. So what does that lead to?