Mosque of Ali (ra) damaged in Battle of Najaf

It’s going to be interesting to see what, if any, reaction there is from iraq’s Shia religious authorities to this…

NAJAF, Iraq (AP) - The Shrine of Imam Ali, one of the most sacred sites for Shiite Muslims, suffered slight damage in fighting Friday between U.S. soldiers and militiamen loyal to radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

**Four holes, each approximately 12 inches by 8 inches were visible on the golden dome. **

They appeared to have been caused by machine gun fire but it was unclear which side was responsible. Three were on one side of the dome and one on another.

During their crackdown on al-Sadr’s militia, U.S. forces have been careful to avoid damage to shrines in Najaf and other holy cities for fear of enraging Iraq’s Shiite majority.

Is nothing sacred anymore ?

how about not using holy places to hide in or lodge attacks from.
and as far as attacking it goes..how about just surrounding the place and let ppl hiding in there be trapped and firce them to surrender.

This was almost inevitable. For the past many days the US forces were warning that something like this will happen.

You know, my co-workers ask this question more than any other. They want to know is it actually permissible in Islam to fight within the area of a mosque. I have always told them that Islam as a religion sanctions wars of self-defense, not one of aggression. And while on self-defense one can defend anything.

That makes the discussion more interesting, as it turns to the question of is this insurgency self-defense or terrorism? Most of them believe it to be 50% homegrown 50% foreign.

On a more personal note, I think everyone should have the decency to not use religious monuments & places of worship in a war. Be it to bomb it or be it to hide in it & stock up your ammunition. If the place of worship is attached, one has every right to defend it. But to use it as a stritigic location of combat is going pretty low.

the Americans don`t care about iraqi lives they treat them like animals

how do you expect them to treat there places of worship!

It's Al-Sado's fault for using mosques as battle grounds.

Great

Add this to the list of effective media tactics.

Hold a protest with lot's of people. Have some guy in the back with an ak-47 start shooting at the soldiers. Civilains are killed in the crossfire, blame the Americans.

Media victory, numerous civilian casualties.

Hide weapons in a mosque, school or hospital, and start shooting from minarettes. US blows up the building.

Media victory, numerous casualties, but some great video...

More displaced anger.

this is a really sad news..americans will not care too much about the holy shrines..they will just blame it on al sadr..al sadr should listen to Ayatallah Seestani and do what he wants him to do

Al-Sadr butchers moderate Shia Cleric.

Iraqi judge issues arrest warrant for Al-Sadr.

Al-Sadr declares war on Coalition Authority trying to serve arrest warrant.

Al-Sadr holes up in and takes control of Islam's holiest shrines in Najaf.

Inocent Iraqis get killed and some bullet holes damage a Mosque.

** myvoice -- hmmmmmm ......... **

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this is a really sad news..americans will not care too much about the holy shrines..they will just blame it on al sadr..al sadr should listen to Ayatallah Seestani and do what he wants him to do
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You don't place any blame on those firing from the shrines?

^ please dont be too quick and blame him for the murder..i really dont think he commited the murder

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You don't place any blame on those firing from the shrines?
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i dont think they should enter the city of najaf and karbala. period.

If the US didn't care about these shrines they would have been blow to smithereens by now since Al-Sadr has made them legitmate targets.

come on yaar..its not because they care about the shrines..they just dont want anymore negative publicity..anyways i think al sadr should just listen to Ayatullah Seestani..this has to just stop right now

I think you are right on both accounts. I didn't say why the US cares about the shrines. But I think he should listen to the wiser, elder cleric as well. It is not in the long term interest of Iraq for him to continue.

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Al-Sadr butchers moderate Shia Cleric.

Iraqi judge issues arrest warrant for Al-Sadr.

Al-Sadr declares war on Coalition Authority trying to serve arrest warrant.

Al-Sadr holes up in and takes control of Islam's holiest shrines in Najaf.

Inocent Iraqis get killed and some bullet holes damage a Mosque.

** myvoice -- hmmmmmm ......... **
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And America is behaving impeccably in Iraq. Hmmmmmmmmmm

People will hide anywhere when they are being butchered by helicopters of invaders as they move around. Why should Al Sadr surrender to the coalition forces, he is fighting for his country, trying to get rid of the invading forces.

The najafis at the moment are trying to get al-sadrs people out of the najaf and base thier miltia elsewhere. They've even offered protection if he dismantles the miltia. But if acts like these continue, i think the ppl will rise up to fight the coalition and I think that is what sadr really wants, the najafi's support.

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It's Al-Sado's fault for using mosques as battle grounds.
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Who on earth invited the scumbag american forces to occupy iraq in thr first place no one!

The only ones to blame are the ones who started all this mess the globocops themselves america Inc

The damage, however slight, marked a moment that the American military has been straining to avoid in its five-week standoff with Mr. Sadr: any violation of the holy sites of Najaf and Karbala, held sacred by Shiites around the world, that could inflame Shiites here into a broader uprising against American forces.

But many moderate Shiites have called for Mr. Sadr and his militia to leave Najaf, and there were no signs of wider unrest on Friday. Despite the damage, the United States military said it was taking extraordinary pains to convince Shiites that it was doing everything to keep the violence away from the shrines.

“It’s important to understand that we have not attacked the Shrine of Imam Ali,” Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, the chief spokesman for the American military, told reporters. “We continue to respect the red lines that have been established by the religious clerics.”

**Mr. Sadr’s supporters blamed Americans for the damage, but General Kimmitt presented a large satellite map showing where the fighting took place, perhaps a quarter mile northwest of the shrine. American forces, he said, had only fired northward, away from the shrine. **

“Go ask Moktada who put that hole in the shrine,” General Kimmitt said. "I suspect he will tell you that it was coalition forces. But I suspect if you look very carefully, the coalition does not yet have ammunition that can shoot to the north and then turn around and head south

Still, the fighting on Friday appeared to move the confrontation with Mr. Sadr to a more sensitive stage, not only in Najaf but in Karbala, to the north. In both cities, military officials say, Mr. Sadr’s forces have been firing from near holy sites in what appears to be a strategy of drawing American troops into fighting on ground that poses grave political consequences.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/15/international/middleeast/15IRAQ.html