Mortgage; sign of a man?

Re: Mortgage; sign of a man?

Even if you are hippity hopping all over the place, you can rent out a place that is mortgaged. Guy avec das kapital > guy without. (all other things being equal). If nothing else it indicates stability. A guy who has made such a huge financial commitment is probably serious on some level.. also, it also indicates steady cash in-flow..

And financial stability is an indicator that a guy is a good provider. I dont get you guys. What ar eyou even discussing. If its a religious debate, take to the relevent forum..

if you are wondering whether its appropriate to judge someones character based on whether they own stuff.

the answer, obviously, is not entirely - but to a large extent. Yes.

Re: Mortgage; sign of a man?

good points hitchki..not sure why this turned into a halal haram thing here.
it was why do ppl prefer a dude who has, or in the process of purchasing a home over one who has not.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from I understand this forum is a Pakistani one. Most Pakistanis follow Islam. My whole point of my first post was to show how low these people go to justify such things and then attach it to being successful. hmm? Hey I'm just sayin'... if you don't like it I'll go hide in religion forum. :0

Most posters on this forum are people. Most people have hair, therefore, according to your logic - this topic should have had a more mane-orientated approach.

I think it is best if you go hide in the relevent forum :)

I’ve never heard of any uncles saying anything like that. Most people I know might use the man’s mortgage as a reason to reject the rishta as opposed to accepting it.

This is the first time I’ve heard of anything like this. Personally, I would not be inclined to marry a daughter off to someone who’s in debt, aside from those pay in 12 months without interest type, and where he’s not incurring interest.

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Fat spartan, nearly every college grad is in some financial debt. That shouldn't stop you from marrying your daughter off to them. What you need to look at is what is the debt, and was it a reasonable debt, and does he have a job to pay it off?

Would you deny your daughter marrying a surgeon in his residency who has 200,000 dollar debt, and who is slated to join a vascular fellowship the following year? Vascular surgeons make tremendous money, such that the 200 K would be a joke to pay off. Or what if he's going into some other lucrative specialty? What if he is running a business that just starting making 80,000 of a profit, and he has college loans of 100,000?

That's a very different situation from the unwise student who owes 200,000K from gambling, drinking, wasting money on parties, is not doing well in school, and is majoring in sociology.

You gotta look at the individual scenario. We all have some debt on us, and some of us are responsible enough that we only took out money knowing we'd have some income to pay it off.

Re: Mortgage; sign of a man?

Mortgage is pretty much a necessity. Same with university/college loans. Refusing to live in today's world is your choice but not a smart one imo.

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Desi parents would actually reject a rishta who has a mortgage? Wow. Who is better off, really....a man who pays a mortgage and each months payment increases ownership OR the man who pays rent which is money out the window, sky-high taxes and still has to save for a house?

ah.. I expected much more than an illogical argument from you hitchki, you’re one of the smart ones… oh well. :sigh:

If you are taking a loan to impress girl's father then don't do it. It's not worth it nor is the girl.

Ideally, the boy and girl should make their lives together. These decisions should be made after marriage... till then pay off your exisiting loans, consolidate your debt and save for potential future investments and security.

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Personally, I wouldn't want to marry anyone with loans...loans are like a bhoj...Nobody wants them...so I don't know why anyone would LOOK for someone WITH loans....thats just wierd...Never even heard of that...

The latter...because I'm Muslim, who personally believes in an interest free life...yes it's a struggle...and at the end of the day your house is not going to be anywhere big as your neighbor's...but it'll be something you know you wont be accounted for on the Day of Judgement...we;re all gonna die, and we're all be gonna be there, though it doesnt seem like it now. And I want to share my life with someone who believes in my values and ideals...and the former guy would obviously would not be compatible with me. :)

Spot on. I think the calculations should be done on an individual level. Only speculators used to fall for the equity trap, looks like joe schmoes have been swept up in these lies.