this thread is posted in international affairs, and no one is happy about it.
I personally feel sad about it cause country that has produced billionaires and has mega ambitions failed to feed its poor people.
there is no need to bring in Pakistan to counter any thing. Pakistan may slightly be better, it could have done very well if it was managed properly.
Poorest lives in India but what few Indians can do:• The two Ambani brothers can buy 100 percent of every company listed on the Karachi Stock Exchange (KSE) and would still be left with $30 billion to spare. • The four richest Indians can buy up all goods and services produced over a year by 169 million Pakistanis and still be left with $60 billion to spare. • 2010 stats - India became the 3rd most attractive foreign direct investment destination. Pakistan wasn’t even in the top 25 countries.• 12 percent of all American scientists are of Indian origin; 38 percent of doctors in America are Indian; 36 percent of NASA scientists are Indians; 34 percent of Microsoft employees are Indians; and 28 percent of IBM employees are Indians.• Sabeer Bhatia created and founded Hotmail. Sun Microsystems was founded by Vinod Khosla. • The Intel Pentium processor, that runs 90 percent of all computers, was fathered by Vinod K Dham. • Rajiv Gupta co-invented Hewlett Packard’s E-speak project. • Four out of ten Silicon Valley start-ups are run by Indians.
Pakistanis should try to match these, instead of being Kasyani Billi discussing poverty there.
Poorest lives in India but what few Indians can do:• The two Ambani brothers can buy 100 percent of every company listed on the Karachi Stock Exchange (KSE) and would still be left with $30 billion to spare. • The four richest Indians can buy up all goods and services produced over a year by 169 million Pakistanis and still be left with $60 billion to spare. • 2010 stats - India became the 3rd most attractive foreign direct investment destination. Pakistan wasn’t even in the top 25 countries.• 12 percent of all American scientists are of Indian origin; 38 percent of doctors in America are Indian; 36 percent of NASA scientists are Indians; 34 percent of Microsoft employees are Indians; and 28 percent of IBM employees are Indians.• Sabeer Bhatia created and founded Hotmail. Sun Microsystems was founded by Vinod Khosla. • The Intel Pentium processor, that runs 90 percent of all computers, was fathered by Vinod K Dham. • Rajiv Gupta co-invented Hewlett Packard’s E-speak project. • Four out of ten Silicon Valley start-ups are run by Indians.
Pakistanis should try to match these, instead of being Kasyani Billi discussing poverty there.
Maybe if Pakistan had over billions of people then we could compare. Please give proof to your facts or else it's your wet dream.
LMAO @ buying all of KSE stocks and India being 3rd best destination for foreign development maybe that foreign development can clear dharavi slums which more than half of Mumbaikers live in. Your indian baniyas should invest in India and work in indian companies instead of foreign companies because India is such a great country right?
Perhaps BUT Indians are known for their bravado & BS… But know this, one of our top politician can buy Ambani khandan hands down with quite a few $ left to bid on rest of BSE.
Now let me pick one from the above " doctors" since quite a few in my family are in this profession and give you a dose of reality.
You said:-
** 38 percent of doctors in America are Indian** :D:
Here is a breakdown of doctors in the US by etenicity.
Asians = 5.7
Hispanic/Latino = 2.8%
White* = 36.7%
Black = 3.3%
Native American 0.3%
Now lets get you back to the point where it counts that is condition of vast majority, Per global hunger Index India has beaten bad pakis hands down in hunger amd malnutrition and this is just one attribute where it counts.
Onlee 6000 Childern starve to death every day… Who comes close onleee Sub Saharan Africa even they have done better.
Please note: We bad Pakis have no intention of anything matching India we know how great India has done in last 63+ years. There are quite a few failures in the region where we bad Pakis would love to emulate but India is certainly not the one.
Re: 'More poor' in India than Africa
right on mo293!!
indians cant keep Pakistan away in anything, they had to bring it in! well this is not going help the poor indians.
Re: 'More poor' in India than Africa
poor India
I agree with u abt not involving us with the indians in this particular discussion.
The above stat. adds up to only 48%, less than half of all the doctors
The rest 52% compromise of FMGs and those who did not prefer to mention their race(NA). Give credit where its due…majority of the FMGs are indians.
I as a pakistani do not mention my self as “asian” because in US it means the chinese. I always check “other”. So most likely those “others” are pakistani/india/ or other south asian.
If u go to any technology firm its hard not to find at least 20% south asians(pak/ind/ban/SL etc..), i am sure the majority of those 20% are indians followed by pakistanis.
^^ u must not be the one of these doctors in ur family.
Re: 'More poor' in India than Africa
Yar I have nothing against anti indian threads or anti pak for that matter, zara mirch masala rehta hai .. but comparing india with africa is like comparing apples with oranges. I am sorry but OP just posted it for the heck of starting an anti-indian thread ..
did you even compare the population of Africa and India? right numbers in poverty should be expressed in percentages and not in absolute magnitude. Indian population is about 140 millions more than the whole continent of Africa. Its almost like saying that China has more illustrates than Pakistan in numbers so Pakistan is a more educated country.
Poorest lives in India but what few Indians can do:• The two Ambani brothers can buy 100 percent of every company listed on the Karachi Stock Exchange (KSE) and would still be left with $30 billion to spare. • The four richest Indians can buy up all goods and services produced over a year by 169 million Pakistanis and still be left with $60 billion to spare. • 2010 stats - India became the 3rd most attractive foreign direct investment destination. Pakistan wasn’t even in the top 25 countries.• 12 percent of all American scientists are of Indian origin; 38 percent of doctors in America are Indian; 36 percent of NASA scientists are Indians; 34 percent of Microsoft employees are Indians; and 28 percent of IBM employees are Indians.• Sabeer Bhatia created and founded Hotmail. Sun Microsystems was founded by Vinod Khosla. • The Intel Pentium processor, that runs 90 percent of all computers, was fathered by Vinod K Dham. • Rajiv Gupta co-invented Hewlett Packard’s E-speak project. • Four out of ten Silicon Valley start-ups are run by Indians.
Pakistanis should try to match these, instead of being Kasyani Billi discussing poverty there.
u should backup ur claims with more facts for it to be convincing.
e.g. look at the highlighted part about Ambanis buying whole KSE with change to spare. I dont think its true.
Please tell me:
1. What is total worth of Ambani bros.
2. Give me total market cap. of all the companies listed on KSE and then u can validate ur statement. Merely mentioning it does not make it a fact!
However, as i have replied to other poster i do agree that there are dis-proportionty large number of indians in tech and medical field than perhaps any other immigrant groups. Chinese(mainland) have large numbers in tech but not much in medicine, specially FMGs as they have very poor english skills
Re: 'More poor' in India than Africa
yay lets all make fun of each other's problems to feel better about our problems.. yay..
pathetic.
I agree with u abt not involving us with the indians in this particular discussion. The above stat. adds up to only 48%, less than half of all the doctors The rest 52% compromise of FMGs and those who did not prefer to mention their race(NA). Give credit where its due...majority of the FMGs are indians. I as a pakistani do not mention my self as "asian" because in US it means the chinese. I always check "other". So most likely those "others" are pakistani/india/ or other south asian. If u go to any technology firm its hard not to find at least 20% south asians(pak/ind/ban/SL etc..), i am sure the majority of those 20% are indians followed by pakistanis.
^^ u must not be the one of these doctors in ur family.
I know some times comprehension is tough... here see what the following means
So Indians BS that 38 percent Doctors in US are Indians but Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) has the following break down by ethenicity. Now try one more time.
Asian = 5.7 %
Oh paa jee, reports like (GHI) Global Hunger Index has the breakdown by percentage pls check it out.
And here is a UN report on malnutrition
http://www.unicef.org/specialsession/about/sgreport-pdf/02_ChildMalnutrition_D7341Insert_English.pdf
Here is from Indian source
http://www.littlemag.com/hunger/shiv.html
Some 47 per cent of India’s children below the age of three years are malnourished (underweight). In Sub-Saharan Africa, the proportion is, on an average, 30 per cent. Thirty out of 37 countries in Sub-Saharan Africa report lower levels of child malnutrition than India.
And here is an eye opener straight from Indian govt.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/836-million-indians-live-on-less-than-rs-20-a-day/47645-7.html
mo.. does India’s problems make you feel a little better? Its really sad if true.
I am sure there are plenty of Indians who feel good to hear about Pakistan unstable and falling apart. They are just as sad as well.
mo.. does India's problems make you feel a little better? Its really sad if true.
I am sure there are plenty of Indians who feel good to hear about Pakistan unstable and falling apart. They are just as sad as well.
Not realy except from time to time I like putting Indians in their place. BTW have you ever heard of "gets one to know one"
I know some times comprehension is tough... here see what the following means
So Indians BS that 38 percent Doctors in US are Indians but Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) has the following break down by ethenicity. Now try one more time.
Asian = 5.7 %
Do u live in the US?
In us the "asian" usually means chinese. I check "other" category. I agree that the 38% is not true, neither his claims of Ambanis buying the whole of KSE. What u dont seem to get through ur thick head is 52% are FMG + (those who do not identify themselves , like me) as belonging to any of the category specified e.g. asian, latino, white etc..
Please, forgive me for suggesting that u might not be a doctor. I think ur havent even finished ur "O" level. Cant add yet?
Most of the posting on this WorldAffairs turns into "mine is bigger than urs" war, where in realty both have small one.
I am a pakistani and have been living in US for longer than ur age. I know what is what here.
Only if our education system was better there isnt any reason why we can be equally of more succesfull than the indians in the US. Chest thumping and false bravado does not change facts!
Do u live in the US? In us the "asian" usually means chinese. I check "other" category. I agree that the 38% is not true, neither his claims of Ambanis buying the whole of KSE. What u dont seem to get through ur thick head is 52% are FMG + (those who do not identify themselves , like me) as belonging to any of the category specified e.g. asian, latino, white etc.. Please, forgive me for suggesting that u might not be a doctor. I think ur havent even finished ur "O" level. Cant add yet? Most of the posting on this WorldAffairs turns into "mine is bigger than urs" war, where in realty both have small one. I am a pakistani and have been living in US for longer than ur age. I know what is what here. Only if our education system was better there isnt any reason why we can be equally of more succesfull than the indians in the US. Chest thumping and false bravado does not change facts!
Dear genius you have an extreme comprehension problem, you are a paki or a martian no body cares nor any one here gives a shyt, no one is asking you..
If you can't even comprehend simple straight numbers from an official American Medical Source then I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth. The rest of your diatribe is all nose.....
This is why i stay away from the WA, its always who is the tallest midget argument. Since u asked for it u “super-O level” genius.
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/18/img-workforce-paper.pdf
The above is right from the horses mouth the AMA instead of some bs source of urs. Just for the record i thing the indian poster have exaggerated his claim, their number is much lower but much higher than the 5% (which u claim is the total number of doctors from entire asia…pak,ind,china,philip..etc)
Here are few facts:
1.
In 1963, IMGs represented slightly more than 10 percent of the physician work force in the United States. Today, they comprise 25 percent of the U.S. physician population.
General IMG statistics, 2007
Number of physicians in U.S 941,304
Number of IMG physicians 243,457 (from 127 countries)
% IMG physicians in U.S 2****6.0
American Medical Association, 2009
3.
Top 20 countries of medical education for IMG physicians
% of total IMG population (number of physicians)
Country Total Total****Percentage
India 51,447 20.7%
Philippines 20,601 8.3%
Mexico 13,834 5.6%
Pakistan 12,111 4.9%
…
China 5,375 2.2%
Just look at the highlighted part and u can deduce that the total numbers of indian IMG is > 5% (20.7% of total of 26% IMG) of all the doctors..which ur source claims is the total numbers of all the physicians from entire asia! Note this is only the IMG/FMG so ur source is bogus!
Also note that we have pretty large % compared to india if u account for population and that the china is nowhere near as i had mentioned in my previous post
4.
Top 20 states where IMGs practice, 2007
state toatal Mds % IMG
1. New York **35,934 42% **
Lets just look at the item 1 the NY state
since 20%+ all IMG are from india the NY has >8.4% doctors of indian origin (most likely because country wise break down is not shown for each state).
Go back and do ur homework kiddo or u wont make it past “O” level.
Poorest lives in India but what few Indians can do:• The two Ambani brothers can buy 100 percent of every company listed on the Karachi Stock Exchange (KSE) and would still be left with $30 billion to spare. • The four richest Indians can buy up all goods and services produced over a year by 169 million Pakistanis and still be left with $60 billion to spare. • 2010 stats - India became the 3rd most attractive foreign direct investment destination. Pakistan wasn’t even in the top 25 countries.• 12 percent of all American scientists are of Indian origin; 38 percent of doctors in America are Indian; 36 percent of NASA scientists are Indians; 34 percent of Microsoft employees are Indians; and 28 percent of IBM employees are Indians.• Sabeer Bhatia created and founded Hotmail. Sun Microsystems was founded by Vinod Khosla. • The Intel Pentium processor, that runs 90 percent of all computers, was fathered by Vinod K Dham. • Rajiv Gupta co-invented Hewlett Packard’s E-speak project. • Four out of ten Silicon Valley start-ups are run by Indians.
Pakistanis should try to match these, instead of being Kasyani Billi discussing poverty there.
My dear indian friend, only some of ur points are partially true like hotmail, intel etc. Rest of ur claims are exaggerations back it up with facts or its fiction!
Perhaps, you have an even severe IQ problem, that of course effects comprehesnion.
I can nail your BS about 2000 percent Indias in 5 US states V all of US but but but then is there a point but what the hell just for fun…
So you think (AAMC) Association of American Medical Colleges is bogus? 
LMAO… you need to have your head examined.
First learn to learn, comprehend abosrb and then see if the following adds up. These figues are for US not just handful of states.
Hispanic/Latino 2.8%
Black 3.3%
Native American 0.3%
White* 36.7%
IMG*** 23.6%
Unknown** 27.6%
Asian 5.7%
Now do this if you have the IQ, add the percentage of Indians from all the categories that apply and see if it adds up. It don’t even add up with your own BS.
But wait AAMC is a bogus source right …. LOL…
Perhaps, you have an even severe IQ problem, that of course effects comprehesnion. I can nail your BS about 2000 percent Indias in 5 US states V all of US but but but then is there a point but what the hell just for fun...
So you think (AAMC) Association of American Medical Colleges is bogus? :D LMAO...... you need to have your head examined.
First learn to learn, comprehend abosrb and then see if the following adds up. These figues are for US not just handful of states.
Hispanic/Latino 2.8% Black 3.3% Native American 0.3% White* 36.7%
IMG*** 23.6% Unknown** 27.6% Asian 5.7%
Now do this if you have the IQ, add the percentage of Indians from all the categories that apply and see if it adds up. It don’t even add up with your own BS. But wait AAMC is a bogus source right …. LOL…
U can read but cant do "o" level math. Dmb arse i just proved to u that the indian FMG/IMG(out of 23.6% IMG) alone make up close to 5.7% of total doctors in USA, the total asian population the figure u used to imply that the % of indian doctors is much less than 5.7%.
I dont buy the indian poster's claim of 30+% may be around 10% is more like it.
U had mentioned that many of ur relatives are doctors...it is said that apple does not fall far from the tree. However, in ur case the fruit not only fell very far from tree but also it turned out to be a lemon.
ru sure ur dr. relatives dont have fake degrees..LOL
work on ur algebra!