Mongia & More praise Dhoni's glovework

Since my Pak friends appear to be in mourning today, I guess I can be excused for posting a thread that is India specific - somebody has to keep this place active.

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/indvaus/content/story/314845.html

Dhoni’s temperament has been fantastic - More
Anand Vasu in Baroda
October 10, 2007

Nayan Mongia feels that Dhoni has made rapid strides as a wicketkeeper since his early struggles in England © AFP

It’s often said that the wicketkeeper sets the standards of fielding for a team. If that is true, then this Indian team should do well in the coming years for Mahendra Singh Dhoni’s glovework has been outstanding in recent times. It’s premature to suggest that the elevation to captaincy may have played a part in this, but from someone who was seen as a batsman who could keep wickets adequately, Dhoni has grown into a force behind the stumps.
In Baroda, a city that has produced two of the best Indian wicketkeepers of the recent past, there was rich conversation about glovework, especially in the light of Dhoni winning the Man-of-the-Match award in the fourth one-dayer in Chandigarh. “Looking at his percentage of taking catches it’s better than any of the other keepers we have had recently,” Kiran More, one of the former Indian wicketkeepers from Baroda, told Cricinfo. “He doesn’t miss when the chances come his way. He’s really good at assessing situations and his temperament is fantastic. He doesn’t look good in the conventional sense in that he’s not a stylish wicketkeeper but his temperament under pressure sets him apart.

But it was not long ago that Dhoni was struggling in England, especially in the early part of the tour having to contend with the considerable movement after the ball crossed the batsman. This is something all keepers have to adjust to when playing in England. The other Baroda wicketkeeper, Nayan Mongia, points out that it was a flaw in technique that caused Dhoni problems in England. “He struggled in England because his technique was not right. He was half-squatting and so could not always gather the ball,” said Mongia, “But after that he has done really well. He is improving with every match. He is watching the ball, staying low and moving with the ball. Hence, his mistakes have come down considerably.”
More too concedes that Dhoni struggled in England, but says that was only to be expected. “In England people criticised him but you should understand that wicketkeepers always struggle there,” said More. “To his credit Dhoni’s concentration level is very high. He has improved a lot. Look at one-and-a-half years ago and now. Look at his hand position. He picks things up quickly.”

Mongia, who was an expert at keeping wickets on rank turners and even underprepared pitches where Anil Kumble and Harbhajan Singh made the ball explode out of the rough, says Dhoni will be tested fully in such conditions. “It is always difficult to keep in India because the ball keeps low. But Dhoni is high on confidence and that is helping him do well,” said Mongia. “When keeping to the pacers, he dives around to collect the ball. If there’s one area in which he should improve, it is in his sideways movement. He needs to be on his toes much more. That will give him a chance to cover much more ground on both sides without needing to dive.”

On the issue of leading the side, playing a role with the bat and keeping wickets - and the heavy burden this places on Dhoni - Mongia and More have slightly different takes. “I am worried that he might have a lot on his hands in the coming days,” Mongia said. “As it is a keeper has to concentrate more than others and as a captain, he will certainly have a lot more to think about.”
More struck a more optimistic note. “This guy is a little different. He can take the pressure of doing everything. He can prove lot of pundits wrong,” said More. “Keeping wickets and captaining is always difficult. But he loves the challenge. That’s what I like most about him. That makes the best of wicketkeepers. Standing back and waiting for things to happen is never good. Dhoni is the kind of guy who will create something and win matches. That’s the difference between Dhoni and other keepers.”


I totally agree with the part I have emphasized above. His wicket-keeping is far from stylish but is productive…so too is his batting. He has a limited repertoire of strokes but he still manages to deliver.

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I do not believe that Dhoni wicket keeping is topnotch. Most of the time I feel that he is too slow to react. He makes catches look very difficult as he reacts late or move late in that particular direction where catch is offered. His ability in test where there is more need for concentration and persistance is needed has lot to be desired. Many time when kumble was bowling he had missed many stumping and catching chances.
He has definitely improved though, but still I feel karthik is a better choice for wicket keeping in test. Besides I believe his average in test (mostly offshore) is ridiculous.

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I am not sure if you saw last few ODIs Vineshvk. He was insrtrumental in getting wickets by his pure keeping skills in all matches at crucial junctures.
He is definitly not elegant in his keeping( for that matter his batting ) but he has been mighty effective and hardly had any really bad match as keeper.

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Like Kiran More says above - right now Dhoni is full of confidence and that is helping his wicketkeeping.

Wicketkeeping is really a thankless jobs....people remember you only for the chances you missed not for the ones you held(no matter how difficult). Also, once a wicketkeeper misses some chances and the media/public go after him, a lot of negativity combined with pressure starts to take further toll of the wicketkeeper's performance. Parthiv Patel is a case in point. Akmal appears to be following the same path.

As of now...Dhoni is on a roll.

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Talking of Parthiv Patel - the guy is performing splendidly in domestic cricket and with India "A". It is his bad luck that the Indian team already has a surplus of players who can perform wicket-keeping duties.

Parthiv just hit 150+ and 50+ not out in the Irani Trophy Final against Mumbai.

If the selectors thought logically, they should pick him purely as a batsman. I feel he can do better than Gambhir/Sehwag etc.

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He did a good job in the last one day. But having seen karthik keep wickets, I think he is better than Dhoni in getting stumpings and catches. Remember 20-20 match when dhoni decided to give away the gloves to Karthik. He did a very good job behind the stumps, and did two stumpings. What is impressive about karthik is that he is very much a wicketkeeper. Very agile, gathering keenly and more over looking for an opportunity to get people out. He thinks and acts like a wicket keeper where as dhoni is like a fielder. Dhoni has problem collecting ball when balls are thrown in by a fielder. he is slow to collect balls in one bounce and dislodging the stumps.

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parthiv is an awfull wicketkeeper. period. He was never good and there is no reason to believe that he will ever be good in keeping.

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^ He will get better, he is young and has time on his side

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Did I say anything about his keeping ?(even though its been reported that he has improved on it).

I am referring to his batting. I feel he can bat better than some of our so called specialist batsmen.