Moin versus Akmal

There are rumors that Moin will replace akmal for the windies tour. Don’t know if these rumors are true or not. I have heard Moin will be a part of unofficial triangular series in Abu Dhabi next week. Is this a sign that PCB wants him to be match fit before the windies tour? I don’t know if the team has been selected by PCB or it was an invitation to individual players from the organisers. However, it seems like moin is defenitely ready for one last comeback. What do you guys think?

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there are many old indian players who are playing in UAE too... its an unofficial tourny, so I wouldn't consider it a serious issue.

Moin is aging. He may be good, but he is on his way out. Wicket keeping requires a lot of physical fitness. Getting Moin or Rashid back is like driving the car in reverse gear. We should look forward and groom a young keeper who can be with the team for a reasonable period of time.

Akmal is fairly green right now, and is learning fast. His batting is gutsy and keeping is fairly mediocre. Lets see if we gotta stick with him, or if we have better alternatives coming through our domestic cricket.

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Usually players are judge after 3/4 series and I guess he has proved his worth....

Faisal you said his keeping is mediocre, well that happens with any keeper in the world, I know he is not right there to be compared with Moin and below par considering Rashid Latif soley on W-keeping, but I can say this easily after watching him for a while now I think we gotta stick with Akaml till the next world cup and by that time if he is supported well he will be one hell of a Wicket keeper batsman for Pakistan.

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If the choice is between Moin-Rashid vs Akmal, then I will go with Akmal, purely because age is on his side and he can only get better. However, if we have better keepers striving in our domestic cricket, then they should be given a fair shake as well.

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Umummm... not really we have only 2 one is Zulqarnain Haider currently playing with the A-team in Namibia.

He is more orthodox, he does not have that flashy backfoot cut that Akmal have.
More of a keeper and a bit of batsman who is improving.

another who was tipped to take over after Moin and Latif was Humanyun Farhat but since they both are same aged Akmal holds the edge with centuries both in test and Odi's

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a nice tribute to great rashid latif by a non-pakistani writer…rashid latif is such an unlucky player…he is by far one of the best keepers all over the world in last 15 years…

http://www.cricbuzz.com/Cricket_Articles/Just_Cricket/Whatever_happened_to_the_genuine_wicket_keeper?/

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so true about Latif, well that guy has not given up at all, opened the academy and I think that has already proved fruitful results.

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If I remember correctly, Rashid was a very talented keeper. He only had one problem... his big mouth.

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Woolmer has already said that selecting Rashid or Moin would be a backward step. Akmal is the best wicket keeper batsman in Pak after those two and unless he really screws up, he isn't going anywhere. Like Faisal said, his keeping can improve but he is young and can only get better.

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rashid lafit was a very neat keeper and technically very sound batsman. Yes, his only problem was his big mouth which resulted in his downfall. His career is full of so many controversies that it is hard to count them. I remember Moin had troubles during the early days of his wicket keeping and he looked like a very ordinary keeper at the start of his career. But was hardworking and smart enough to raise the level of his game. Akmal is also a sound batsmen and at his best he looks very clean behind the stumps. Although I really like moin khan because of his fighting spirit but I agree that age is not on his side and akmal should be a permanent part of the team now.

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Woolmer wants 3-D players... who are multi-faceted - I wonder if he'd even look at anyone who's a pure glovesman - these people can actually capitalize those half chances and turn around test-matches... sigh, I miss Latif - only if he would keep his big gob shut :(

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I would have match rather prefered Moin. His style of play and batting were so valuble. BUT if he were younger.
There is no reason to keep reaching into the past over and over again. We have to let Moin go on his way.

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We should persist with Akmal for another season and let the young lad grow.

As far as keeping is concerned no wicket keeper comes close to Jeffery Dujon and Rashid Latif. They both will remain the legends of this art. Their reflexes, quickness, flexiblity and acrobats against world's most furious pace attack is unmatchable. I respect Moin too, he is an excellent athlete, but when it comes to keeping, he is not even half of Rashid's level. Wasim Bari was good too but again....

IMO.

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You guys really need to pray and hope Saby Bhai, does not read this thread.:D,

Waise seriously I would agree with Faisal bhai, right now Akmal is the best choice, but if the Domestic Tourneys can pruduce someone with a promising future, he should definitely be given a chance.

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Moin Vs Akmal

There is no comparison here. Moin is a far superior batsman and much much better wicketkeeper. Has anybody seen the latest 100 Moin scored in the 20/20 match? If you are ageing it shows, Yusuf Yuhana is calling for runners when he crosses 70 odd runs, Inzama is complaining of stiff backs when he has played a long inning. Here we have a wk/batsman whose scoring hundreds, keeping wickets and his only drawback is his age? Very weak argument folks, most of the great wk have played well in to their late thirties Bari, Alan Knott, Rodney Marsh, Taylor and many more.

Problem with Bob Woolmer is his fixation with multiple traits/capabailities i.e., players should be able to perform more than one function. End result is a fairly average one day side but weak test cricket team. You have to play specialists, nothing less.

By the way, when any country commits a team for a series, idea is to win and you have to put in your best players available, not what seems potentially good.

If blowing the whistle on match fixing is wrong, then Rashid Lateef deserves to be trashed. Guy made one honest mistake, one lousy mistake, and ppl will not forgive him, while Inzi did not have the courage or professional decency to go in front of the special tribunal setup by PCB and confirm what Rashed said. That was history lesson guys, but do not forget the positive contributions of players like RL i.e., cleansing Pak team of match fixing culture and setting up RLCA which gave us players like Mohd Sami, Yunus Khan and Danish Kaneria.

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fartguru: Moin played for few seasons after Rashid Latif was forced out but his batting faded away in later stages and his keeping was not at a level to keep him in the team. Kamran Akmal has shown flashes of batting, his keeping is on and off good/average. Inzamam is having back trouble these days, but even with that there is no replacement half as good.... did you see his 180+ runs in recent India Test series? He kept going, simply, without a runner.

Regarding Rashid, blowing whistle was the best thing... no one is complaining about that, but his writing letters to ICC, crying 'match-fixing' when India visited Pakistan last year .... all add up against him.

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Captain: Moin lost his place in the Pakistan side because of his poor form, rightfully so. But, he has worked hard in domestic cricket and is showing old self with the bat. Guys like Moin are real fighters, remember it was Moin who was guiding Inzi in his early days as captain. Moin has positives which certainly warrent attention and selection must be based on merit and merit only. If Moin has been able to revive his old form, then he deserves a chance.

Inzi is a class act, but suffers from physical attrition, age and his poor fitness habits are catching up with him. Before going to Australia, he was suffering from a back strain, went to Bangladesh with the same and then onto Australia. Barely played the first test and then was out for the remaining two. Now was he really unfit or was it a case of cold feet, I cannot say but definately was something which was very easily ignored when it should have been discussed as carrying excess weights during the test series.

Rashid has retired from first class cricket, while his career came to a forced closure at the peak of his form. Reason, he made ppl who matter very nervous that he was a loose cannon or like a scud missile which can go and hit anything, but its desired target. My point, he was a fine cricketer and gave his 100% to Pakistan cricket and was a committed team player. History note: After the last world cup when Inzi was unable to score double digits against teams like Namibia, like other big stars Inzi was also dropped. It was on Rashid Latif’s insistence and recommendation that Inzi was bought back into the team and we all know what happened next…

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Could’nt 'ev said it better :smiley:

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Rashid Latif is easily the best pure wicket keeper of his generation, nobody even comes close....

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^^ :k: