Modi promotes Hindi for official communication in India.

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"Prime Minister Narendra Modi declared that all official documents must be written in Hindi.

He also said he wanted to restore a sense of pride to India’s dejected millions, many of them battling unemployment and grinding poverty. One quick boost would be giving prominence to Hindi, the language of the masses.

So a day after the new government took office, India’s home ministry ordered officials to switch to Hindi on social media. Modi also ordered officials to use Hindi in all official correspondence and to take notes in Hindi. Modi himself declared he would only speak Hindi with foreign leaders.

The changes have shaken the government’s power managers.
The newly elected lawmakers “speak a different language and are socially conservative in their outlook,” Kumari said. “Certainly, there is a sense of disquiet among the bureaucrats,” she said.

But language is also politics for Modi, who spent years as a preacher with the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh, or National Volunteers Association, a powerful Hindu nationalist movement that sees Hindi as the true language of a powerful India.

But in a country with as many as 22 official languages, many question Hindi’s dominance.

Although Hindi and its numerous dialects are spoken by about 45 percent of India’s 1.2 billion people, there are hundreds of millions in the southern, eastern and remote northeast parts of the country who don’t speak Hindi at all. In recent years, as India has joined the globalized economy, English has become increasingly important beyond the urban elite. Today, about 10 percent of the country is thought to be proficient in English.

For the senior civil servants, the sudden language shift is an added burden."

http://news.yahoo.com/indian-bureaucrats-scramble-hindi-dictionaries-073115866.html

Is this good ? Will this work in the long-term ?

Is Urdu used for official communication in Pakistan ?
Wasn’t this tried in the recent past (and I am not even thinking of the East Pakistan language issue) ?

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he's trying to promote hindi which is good for them but none of the south indian states will accept that as they have their own languages and actually some of them really hate hindi. I dont think it'll be very well welcomed.

As far as Pak is concerned, we've other issues to resolve first. This can be taken care later so let English be the lang for official communication

[queer]

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another gujarati out trying to promote UP language. no thanks.

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So as a North Indian (Punjabi) you have affinity with Hindi but you don't believe that it can or should be imposed on all of India for official business.
And that English, though a Firangi language, is viewed as a neutral language that doesn't have emotional/cultural baggage attached to it.
Even though 10% of the population, according to the article, is proficient in it.

Whereas 45% Indians speak Hindi and its various dialects.

[queer]

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im punjabi now? no thanks.

10% in UP maybe. english is a gateway language to universal knowledge, education, globalization. hindi is a gateway language to... bollywood, sexism, casteism and similar brilliant gifts of UP-bihar belt. nope.. do not want. as for emotional/cultural baggage - english has been used for 200+ years in all of india, hindi hasnt been used in a majority of it even now despite such attempts since the past 100 years. plenty of cultural attachment.

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What ARE you, then ?

And don’t be dissing UP now , the land of half of my ancestors.

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[muqawwee123]

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@queer

another gujarati out trying to promote UP language. no thanks.

another? who were the others? Ekta Kapoor?

[mahool]

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@TS

What are you, then ?

And don’t be dissing UP now :emmy:, the land of half of my ancestors. :wub:

Queer is Bengali… :emmy:

[TS]

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You mean wannabe Bangaali.

[Jolie]

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@TS

*Is Urdu used for official communication in Pakistan ? * Wasn't this tried in the recent past (and I am not even thinking of the East Pakistan language issue) ?

Urdu is a firmly established as an official language. All provincial and national assemblies debates and speeches are carried out in Urdu. I'm tempted to think that English is probably the main language of legislation, but hard to imagine that there wouldn't be any official Urdu version of the documents available.

Despite all the many faults and crimes of politicians, I think we must give credit to Pakistani politicians for sticking to Urdu as the main language of communication and making it so accessible to the public. I appreciate how Pakistani politicians don't try to make fools of themselves by speaking English for sake of speaking English or speaking it as way of showing off, even the ones who'd studied at superior and world famous foreign or Anglicised institutions like Imran or Ch. Nisar don't unnecessarily converse in English to prove a point. In my opinion, I think Pakistani politicians generally speak very good Urdu. I mean Haider Rizvi almost gets poetic in his speech: "dekhiye, meri aik naaqis si raaye hai'..*my goodness, now whose name is *naaqis *and what does he do? Well I eventually figured what *naaqis *really means, but what a pretty word. I like saying it. Bloody *naaqis PMLN supporters. Sounds lovely, doesn't it?

I personally think Urdu is a beautifully elegant and a romantic language, very pleasant on the tongue and ears, and standard Urdu really is a language of courtesy or as they it in Urdu adab.

Sorry for the off topic post, but since the thread starter is a Pakistani gentleman, let's hope that I'll be forgiven.

[TLK]

Urdu is known as Darbari Zaban, which literally means a language used for sifaarish, khushaamad and chaaploosi. This is what darbari of mughals used to do all day long

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@Jolie

Urdu is a firmly established as an official language. All provincial and national assemblies debates and speeches are carried out in Urdu. I’m tempted to think that English is probably the main language of legislation, but hard to imagine that there wouldn’t be any official Urdu version of the documents available.

Despite all the many faults and crimes of politicians, I think we must give credit to Pakistani politicians for sticking to Urdu as the main language of communication and making it so accessible to the public. I appreciate how Pakistani politicians don’t try to make fools of themselves by speaking English for sake of speaking English or speaking it as way of showing off, even the ones who’d studied at superior and world famous foreign or Anglicised institutions like Imran or Ch. Nisar don’t unnecessarily converse in English to prove a point. In my opinion, I think Pakistani politicians generally speak very good Urdu. I mean Haider Rizvi almost gets poetic in his speech: *"dekhiye, meri aik naaqis si raaye hai’..*my goodness, now whose name is *naaqis *and what does he do? Well I eventually figured what *naaqis *really means, but what a pretty word. I like saying it. Bloody naaqis PMLN supporters. Sounds lovely, doesn’t it?

I personally think Urdu is a beautifully elegant and a romantic language, very pleasant on the tongue and ears, and standard Urdu really is a language of courtesy or as they it in Urdu adab.

Sorry for the off topic post, but since the thread starter is a Pakistani gentleman, let’s hope that I’ll be forgiven.

No, it’s not off-topic.

I quite enjoyed this feel-good post, ma’am. :k:
[Feels good to be called a gentleman. :D]

Thank you.

[muqawwee123]

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@Jolie

Urdu is a firmly established as an official language. All provincial and national assemblies debates and speeches are carried out in Urdu. I’m tempted to think that English is probably the main language of legislation, but hard to imagine that there wouldn’t be any official Urdu version of the documents available.

Despite all the many faults and crimes of politicians, I think we must give credit to Pakistani politicians for sticking to Urdu as the main language of communication and making it so accessible to the public. I appreciate how Pakistani politicians don’t try to make fools of themselves by speaking English for sake of speaking English or speaking it as way of showing off, even the ones who’d studied at superior and world famous foreign or Anglicised institutions like Imran or Ch. Nisar don’t unnecessarily converse in English to prove a point. In my opinion, I think Pakistani politicians generally speak very good Urdu.** I mean Haider Rizvi almost gets poetic in his speech: *"dekhiye, meri aik naaqis si raaye hai’..*my goodness, now whose name is *naaqis *and what does he do? Well I eventually figured what naaqis really means, but what a pretty word. I like saying it. Bloody naaqis PMLN supporters. Sounds lovely, doesn’t it?

I personally think Urdu is a beautifully elegant and a romantic language, very pleasant on the tongue and ears, and standard Urdu really is a language of courtesy or as they it in Urdu adab.

Sorry for the off topic post, but since the thread starter is a Pakistani gentleman, let’s hope that I’ll be forgiven.

lols.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/culture-literature-and-linguistics/609646-mqm-and-garhi-urdu.html

[muqawwee123]

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@TLK

Urdu is known as Darbari Zaban, which literally means a language used for sifaarish, khushaamad and chaaploosi. This is what darbari of mughals used to do all day long

But Mughals used Persian as darbari language. I think its only Bahdur Shah Zafar who had Urdu poets like Ghalib and Zoq as their darbari poets. Before this, all Mughal emperors loved to promote Persian even forcibly.

The reason behind Sindhi society's agitation on account of language shown in current times goes back to this Mughal era. Before Mughals, Arghoons (Mughals' cousins technically) tried to impose Persian on masses in Sindh, but when scholars in Thatta (which was a learning seat of the region having doezen of Madarsas) refused to teach Persian, they killed many scholars. Arghoons were not against teaching or speaking Sindhi, but they wanted that medium of instructions to teach jurisprudence (fiqah), etc should be in Persian to promote their version of religion. Mughals, who came after Arghoons, crossed all limits. They also tried to promote Persian and this time these new invaders were not ready to bear someone specking his/her mother tongue and forced masses to get education in a language which was alien to masses.

[Jolie]

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@TS

:hehe:

No, it’s not off-topic.

I quite enjoyed this feel-good post, ma’am. :k:
[Feels good to be called a gentleman. :D]

Thank you.

You are a gentleman. :k:

@muqawwee123

lols.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/culture-literature-and-linguistics/609646-mqm-and-garhi-urdu.html

I believe MQMers generally speak very good Urdu, but Haider Rizvi tends to get poetic when he’s not aggressively defending MQM and generally just talking about neutral topic. He does have exceptional vocabulary, so exceptional that I don’t remember half of the words he says, lol.

I like how Pakistani politicians are always referring to each other as ‘janab’ or adding ‘sahab’ after their opponent’s name even when they’re ripping each other apart. My God, how do they remember to do that in the middle of the fight?

[muqawwee123]

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@Jolie

You are a gentleman. :k:

I believe MQMers generally speak very good Urdu, but Haider Rizvi tends to get poetic when he’s not aggressively defending MQM and generally just talking about neutral topic. He does have exceptional vocabulary, so exceptional that I don’t remember half of the words he says, lol.

I like how Pakistani politicians are always referring to each other as ‘janab’ or adding ‘sahab’ after their opponent’s name even when they’re ripping each other apart. My God, how do they remember to do that in the middle of the fight?

People related to Shia community normally have exceptional vocabulary and are better orators as compared to others.

Noor ul Huda Shah (famous writer and name behind the serials like Marvi and Jungle), who herself belong to a Syed family, wrote this in preface of a book written by Naseer Mirza (a writer, columnist of Sindh and grandson of Mirza Qaleech Baig - A shia family of Sindh). She said that in Urdu we got so many writers, but the way sad feelings and emotions were depicted by Quratulain Haider (Aini) in her novels can’t be found in the works of other writers. This is due to the fact that Aini belonged to a Shia family and they learn how to express sadness and emotions by frequent Majalis.

[kakaballi]

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@Jolie

....I personally think Urdu is a beautifully elegant and a romantic language, very pleasant on the tongue and ears,.....

lagta hai kabhi aap ne kisi punjabi mutyaaran ki zubaan se Urdu ki matti paleed hotey nahee dekhi.

It is sad if they impose Hindi in India. Non-Hindi speakers would be disadvantaged. Just like in Pakistan, 80% of the children are forced to learn three languages to get through school.

[Jolie]

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I enjoy listening to all forms and types of Urdu, often for knowledge and sometimes for laughter.

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@kakaballi

lagta hai kabhi aap ne kisi punjabi mutyaaran ki zubaan se Urdu ki matti paleed hotey nahee dekhi.

@Jolie

I like how Pakistani politicians are always referring to each other as ‘janab’ or adding ‘sahab’ after their opponent’s name even when they’re ripping each other apart. My God, how do they remember to do that in the middle of the fight?

[OYMWA]

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"Prime Minister Narendra Modi declared that all official documents must be written in Hindi.
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He should be promoting urdu... in all hindi movies all official business is carried out in urdu... for eg:

Tamaam Gawaaoon key bayaanat aur saboot ko madd-e-nazar rakhtey
Taz-e-raat-e-hind, dafaa 302 ke tahet , muzrim ko sazaa-e-maut di jaati hai