modern muslim marriage contract

[Sohni649]

Re: modern muslim marriage contract

@Kuffs

It’s a bit shocking to see the lack of Islamic knowledge by most people who responded. I am a muslim who has doubts about the existence of God because of science etc, but that is another subject all together. But i have “researched” Islam for a few years now as a Muslim and i know the basics, it’s a bit hypocritical to not know this stuff.

In the words of House “follow it all or none”.

My point is firstly cultures have distorted Islamic law in many places including marriage. Secondly the rule of two women for one man is ONLY IN BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS and that is because Men (even today in most countries) are in charge of business trade, so they have better knowledge on that subject, which is not a problem.

In witnessing a Nikah, it can be a person of ANY gender, but they have to be sane and an adult. Most scholars state that even in court cases 1 women’s testimony = 1 man testimony. THE 2 FOR 1 RULE IS ONLY IN BUSINESS RELATED STUFF.

finally, i don’t understand how people can EVEN THINK that 2 women = 1 man for witnessing etc is acceptable and not sexist??? To say that 1 woman cannot witness a marriage like a man is unacceptable and unfair. I have a few issues with religion but this is not one in Islam’s case.

so how does that make you muslim then?

and then you go on about “lack of Islamic Knowledge” etc etc…come back to us when you have the “illallāh” figured out…I pray Allah gives you guidance…

[Niksik]

Re: modern muslim marriage contract

It's a bit shocking to see the lack of Islamic knowledge by most people who responded. I am a muslim who has doubts about the existence of God because of science etc, but that is another subject all together. But i have "researched" Islam for a few years now as a Muslim and i know the basics, it's a bit hypocritical to not know this stuff.

In the words of House "follow it all or none".

My point is firstly cultures have distorted Islamic law in many places including marriage. Secondly the rule of two women for one man is ONLY IN BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS and that is because Men (even today in most countries) are in charge of business trade, so they have better knowledge on that subject, which is not a problem.

In witnessing a Nikah, it can be a person of ANY gender, but they have to be sane and an adult. Most scholars state that even in court cases 1 women's testimony = 1 man testimony. THE 2 FOR 1 RULE IS ONLY IN BUSINESS RELATED STUFF.

finally, i don't understand how people can EVEN THINK that 2 women = 1 man for witnessing etc is acceptable and not sexist??? To say that 1 woman cannot witness a marriage like a man is unacceptable and unfair. I have a few issues with religion but this is not one in Islam's case.

It's for legal matters...as in any issue requiring a legal judgement or transaction... So even in cases of zinaa, 2 women witnesses would be needed to testify, in place of one male.

Coming to your point about being sexist...ummmm...you know, if today I sat down and dissected every little religious matter, I'd be a very restless person. It's not always sensible to be a smarty pants you know.

[majesty]

Re: modern muslim marriage contract

I'd like to know a bit more about how a woman was allowed to be a witness in this act....not that I personally have any issues with women being witnesses, but according to Islamic principles, a woman cannot. How did they come up with this... maybe I should read up more.

A woman can be a witness to anything! in some situations their is a requirement for two women ,but according to Sunni and Shia law women can be a witness so where is this coming from?

[Niksik]

Re: modern muslim marriage contract

I didn't put that down properly...what I meant is that there are conditions etc...