Re: modern muslim marriage contract
Itās a bit shocking to see the lack of Islamic knowledge by most people who responded. I am a muslim who has doubts about the existence of God because of science etc, but that is another subject all together . But i have āresearchedā Islam for a few years now as a Muslim and i know the basics, itās a bit hypocritical to not know this stuff.
In the words of House āfollow it all or noneā.
My point is firstly cultures have distorted Islamic law in many places including marriage. Secondly the rule of two women for one man is ONLY IN BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS and that is because Men (even today in most countries) are in charge of business trade, so they have better knowledge on that subject, which is not a problem.
In witnessing a Nikah, it can be a person of ANY gender, but they have to be sane and an adult. Most scholars state that even in court cases 1 womenās testimony = 1 man testimony. THE 2 FOR 1 RULE IS ONLY IN BUSINESS RELATED STUFF.
finally, i donāt understand how people can EVEN THINK that 2 women = 1 man for witnessing etc is acceptable and not sexist??? To say that 1 woman cannot witness a marriage like a man is unacceptable and unfair. I have a few issues with religion but this is not one in Islamās case.
so how does that make you muslim then?
and then you go on about ālack of Islamic Knowledgeā etc etcā¦come back to us when you have the āillallÄh ā figured outā¦I pray Allah gives you guidanceā¦
Niksik
October 20, 2011, 6:14am
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Re: modern muslim marriage contract
Itās a bit shocking to see the lack of Islamic knowledge by most people who responded. I am a muslim who has doubts about the existence of God because of science etc, but that is another subject all together. But i have āresearchedā Islam for a few years now as a Muslim and i know the basics, itās a bit hypocritical to not know this stuff.
In the words of House āfollow it all or noneā.
My point is firstly cultures have distorted Islamic law in many places including marriage. Secondly the rule of two women for one man is ONLY IN BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS and that is because Men (even today in most countries) are in charge of business trade, so they have better knowledge on that subject, which is not a problem.
In witnessing a Nikah, it can be a person of ANY gender, but they have to be sane and an adult. Most scholars state that even in court cases 1 womenās testimony = 1 man testimony. THE 2 FOR 1 RULE IS ONLY IN BUSINESS RELATED STUFF.
finally, i donāt understand how people can EVEN THINK that 2 women = 1 man for witnessing etc is acceptable and not sexist??? To say that 1 woman cannot witness a marriage like a man is unacceptable and unfair. I have a few issues with religion but this is not one in Islamās case.
Itās for legal mattersā¦as in any issue requiring a legal judgement or transactionā¦ So even in cases of zinaa, 2 women witnesses would be needed to testify, in place of one male.
Coming to your point about being sexistā¦ummmmā¦you know, if today I sat down and dissected every little religious matter, Iād be a very restless person. Itās not always sensible to be a smarty pants you know.
majesty
October 21, 2011, 1:36pm
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Re: modern muslim marriage contract
Iād like to know a bit more about how a woman was allowed to be a witness in this actā¦not that I personally have any issues with women being witnesses, but according to Islamic principles, a woman cannot. How did they come up with thisā¦ maybe I should read up more.
A woman can be a witness to anything! in some situations their is a requirement for two women ,but according to Sunni and Shia law women can be a witness so where is this coming from?
Niksik
October 21, 2011, 3:34pm
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Re: modern muslim marriage contract
I didnāt put that down properlyā¦what I meant is that there are conditions etcā¦
