Moderate Muslims....Extremists......Fundamentalists.

The above 3 terms have been misused so extensively erroneously lately that I wouldnt be surprised if Oxford dictionary introduces a mention of ‘Islam’ or ‘Muslims’ in the meanings of these 3 words.

From what Ive seen in the past few years, the above words have evolved as follows.

Moderate muslims: Muslims who dont mind the western lifestyle, and dont have any qualms in adopting western lifestyle, dressing manners and cultural aspects.

Fundamentalist muslims: Muslims who refuse to accept the western lifestyle and stick to their own lifestyle, preserving their originality.

Extremist muslims: Muslims who are fundamentalists, and in addition, make a concerted effort to erase the moderation from their society.

Now these definitions have been crafted up by the west, and I cant fault them for it, since its their job to introduce propanganda the way it suits them. However, what I find surprising is that muslims, in increasing numbers, have adopted these erroneous definitions as well, and feel ‘proud’ to introduce themselves as moderates, showing their acknowledgement of the western lifestyle, and their desire to adopt it.

I dont have any problem with who wants to adopt what. But lets take everything for what it is. Lets not mix and match. Lets not allow the western media or the western governments to define our religion for us. Lets not allow them to show us whats right in our lifestyle and whats wrong in it. We do not have to be apologetic for Islam. It is what it is. If someone does not agree with it, or does not like it, fair enough. They dont have to. But they are not going to twist it around and portray it as something its not.

Add to that the erroneous interpretations we see of different Islamic values, emanating from the western media. We see analysts giving interviews to media outlets, people who have gone through a cliffs notes summary of the Holy Quran, who seem to be giving ‘expert opinions’ and ‘accurate interpretations’ of what the Holy Quran says. We cannot shut them up. We cannot remove them from their positions. But we dont have to succumb to their interpretations either! If we cant take a stand for what we believe is right, then at least we shouldnt fall for what others say is right either.

This is in response to the increasing glut of so-called expert interviews, analyses and talks that I see on tv and hear on the radio on a daily basis, and the response put forth by local muslims in an attempt to fit in. Its sickeningly ignorant. I see people willing to compromise on their faith in order to fit in. That is indeed, the weakest form of faith.

I totally agree with you. Maybe you read this? A group of pseudo islamic intellectuals talking on Islam.
http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum25/HTML/002965.html

How true…Akif

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There is a neat thread on the subject started by BoSS in The Corner Room.

You may want to check it out.

Extremism in Islam, or in religion, is when you use religion to label intolerance, to turn from religion and take ideas that you can extract for yourself, or deduce for yourself, and use to make a militant movement and disturb the peace in your country or around the world.

When someone who believes in a religion and tries to live and act according to the literal interpretation of certain verses in his holy book without adhering to the moral codes of the religion he becomes an extremist. The extremist adheres to the ritual rather than the tenants of the faith…

The liberal policy of the West, primarily France, Germany, England and the United States, allowed the extremists from the Middle East to establish bases of operations in their countries. They infiltrated these countries through immigration or political asylum. They have taken advantage of the democratic and liberal atmosphere to organize and form a nucleus of leadership. From these new bases they attempt to achieve their political agendas in their home countries. The easily obtained western technology and free open market offers them a better and more effective way to direct and finance their followers. The tolerant policies of the West facilitate the creation of safe havens, for their supporters and fugitives.

Utilizing all the current technology available in communications has helped the extremists to have strong, successful, effective and influential underground activities. The quick and immediate transferal of monies has also enhanced the power of the extremists, giving them the opportunity to expand by financing and supporting new members into the inner circle and to hijack established Islamic institutions, or establish new ones. The protection the extremists receive, in the Western Countries, under the auspices of freedom of speech and association, has unfortunately made them powerful. In addition, their activities are not necessarily illegal since their conspiracies are not toward the host country but towards the countries of their birth…

Although extremists consider the western civilization corrupt, they take advantage of the democratic principles to expand and protect their movement, while simultaneously pointing their guns towards them. They feel that by terrorizing the people of these countries, it will lead their government to exert pressure on their home government to compromise and negotiate with them…
The moderate Islamic voice must be accepted, adopted and promoted by the local governments as well as the international community in order to counteract the vehement propaganda of the extremists. It is a known fact that the moderate Muslims far outnumber the extremists. By advocating the moderate position the extremist movement will find itself an outcast in the Muslim community…

Extremism, by definition, is a force contrary to freedom, liberty, and justice. Islamic extremism is no different than any other form of ideological extremism. They believe that they are justified in attempting to force their belief system on others. In their eyes, moderate Muslims, who cringe at the blood and pain cause by such extreme elements, are considered renegades of Islam - nonbelievers and enemies of the religion. Within this extreme movement, as with all types of extremism, there is only room for one set of thoughts, one opinion, one vision. Extremism poses its greatest danger to the Islamic community - stifling its diversity and its multifaceted and multinational character. It is a threat to the freedom and liberty of the community, and thus to the very community itself - for what community can truly survive staunch intolerance and lack of free thought?
http://www.iacsp.com/a3.html

read this to find out who’s good, who’s bad and who’s very bad:
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1111-06.htm

I got a question:

Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) and his companions. Were they,

a) Extremists?
b) Moderate Muslims?
c) Fundamentalist Muslims?

According to the west, they would be (a) and (c) because they spread the word of Islam against the wishes of the surrounding non-islmaic regimes.

Isn't Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) and his companions the best of mankind - the people we should strive to be like?

Food for thought

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Originally posted by Grits:
Extremism in Islam, or in religion, is when you use religion to label intolerance, to turn from religion and take ideas that you can extract for yourself, or deduce for yourself, and use to make a militant movement and disturb the peace in your country or around the world......
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its not surprising to see whatever u muttered in here. I beleive that "West" has innovated the terms "fundamentalist", "extremist", "terrorist" so they can put anyone who is against their 'interests' into these categories and then portray them as "The Demons". The other innovation/invention by West is that of "sanctions" alongwith "UN". Using UN, they can pressurize the world community to place 'genocidal' sanctions on any country who acts against their wishes/interests. Everyone knows in the world that sanctions work ONLY against civilians practically, but perhaps the sanctions placing country want the civilians to "revolt", "rebel" against their government (thus causing another disaster in that country).

Perhaps these "fundamentalists", "extremists" should follow the same path of either inventing or using same 'tools' to use against 'west'.


We oughta be Changez like, don't we?

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Changez

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…yes that’s true..The WEST…


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what would you call muslims like me who have ne problems with western culture but at the same time belive in islamic brotherhood? and fighting in injustice and prejudice against muslims?

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Akif bhai,

This is an interesting topic you are pointing out...

I totally agree!!!