I don’t know if this belongs in this section or in the Life section so I will let the members and the moderators decide.
The recent incidient in Sialkot has sparked fear, grief and much anger within the global Pakistani community. Many cannot understand what can drive a group of people to viciously beat two individuals to a pulp. While I understand that there must be some level of responsibility and some motive in this attack, it is certainly not the first time that we have seen this type of behaviour.
Yesterday I was made aware of more than one incident in Karachi where men travelling along a busy road saw some individuals beating up a mini-van driver. Immediately they stopped their motorbike, joined the perpetrators and didn’t stop until the victim was either completely subdued and/or dead, at which point they enquired, “What happened?”.
How many of these incidents have just cause? I don’t know.
What I do know is that a “mob mentality” runs rampant in areas where lawlessness or jungle-law has become a way of life.
I’d like to know, from those that may have more knowledge on the subject, what exactly is it that drives entire groups of people to attack a person that is obviously overpowered and/or outnumbered?
Sense of revenge , sense of power, anger and frustration.
An ordinary individual in the pakland is subject to so much bullying at every level, culturally, socially, politically, financially that when they get a chance , they come out in incidents like these , like there is no tomorrow. The questions they ask are , where is the law? I have never seen it in my life. Where is the justice , I have waitedfor my court case for 12 years still to no end ... where is the social patience, my kids sleep hungry at night while the ameer tabka enjoys parties
Frustration builds up to the extreme and ultimately it comes out where it can ... just like how a small child is , when he /she feels ignored by the mom or feels he isnt getting enough attention or care , he wont say ,i need love,care and attention , he will start doing zid in other petty things like toys or food or general attitude ...
This is true ... Chicken Biryani ... this why individuals will do such things. To add the reason why it is done in groups and gangs is to share or distribute responsibility of the burden.
In such environments the mob gains a mind of its own, and easily escalates out of control. However, I don't think this was as much as a community mob as it seemed to be - it was a large group of people who were all related to each other in some way (family & friends) which means it was planned and they were all complicit. They felt they were dishing out justice, but in their ignorance created an atmosphere where the reverse happened.
Only in ignorance or complete evil will someone do that to another person. If the brothers did do a crime that killed another person, then the Islamic court would only exercise the same penalty, but this battering and hanging and street show is all prohibited. I was very upset with this news.
the main reason is that people don't have faith in the judicial system anymore. I am NOT saying those kids were criminals but everyday robberers terrorize entire cities. I dont know about other places but every other person in karachi has been robbed at gun point at some point in the past 5 years. if you resist, they simply shoot you. Last year there were 2 cases of people snatching the gun away from these criminals and setting those robberers on fire. yes its inhumane but people are tired of living in fear because of these criminals who are murdering people left and right.
What I do know is that a "mob mentality" runs rampant in areas where lawlessness or jungle-law has become a way of life.
The lynching was ordered by the police. So in my view people were not exactly following mob mentality. They were doing what had been asked from them.
And policemen ordered this because they were sure that these people had just committed murders during robbery. So keeping in view our holes-filled court system, they thought it would be better to punish them right at the spot. It was a cruel way to do it, but in their view the police and people were thinking that they were taking revenge for those murders.
So the conclusion is that extra-judicial killing is WRONG. Even if those two boys were caught red-handed committing murder, still no one had the right to kill them at the spot. There are no if's and but's.
True that justice system is not good, but such lynchings by public will create an ugly environment in the society. People will be willing to take law in their hand, and many more innocent will die based only on suspicion.
My message to the 'qaum' is that DON'T condemn this killing just because these boys were innocent. Condemn it because ANY extra-judicial killing is wrong, EVEN if it is of a criminal.
^You seem to have come to conclusions without any sound proof, thats part of mob mentality. Upto now i havent seen any credible evidence that police ordered the killings except for one of the accused making the claim, i dont trust the words of a murderer.
If police did not order the killing then what were they doing watching the beatings?
How many proofs do YOU have about reaching your own conclusions?
Until the time that some inquiry in the incidence is completed, all that is there is conjectures. So** don't try to behave like a saint yourself and accuse others.**
"Sound proof". haha. As if this guy was there probably making those videos.
Then why did you ask me the question?
Aren't you the one accusing me of coming to conclusion without sound proof, but at the same time posting based on your own unconfirmed assumptions?
for example - when day in and day out when children are exposed to sex joke and sex themed programs, they grow insensitive to immoral aspects of sex crimes.
similarly people of pakistan have been day in and day out brought up in an environment of violence, hatred, religious and racial intolerance, institutional fraud, immoral acts under the guise of religious jehad....you name it they got it.
is there any wonder that somebody travelling in a vehicle simply joins a mob in beating up a fellow human being w.o knowing why?
They're pure jahil, evil and inhumane from every angle, physically, mentally and emotionally. They can't be called muslims but they are not god fearing.
If police did not order the killing then what were they doing watching the beatings?
How many proofs do YOU have about reaching your own conclusions?
Until the time that some inquiry in the incidence is completed, all that is there is conjectures. So** don't try to behave like a saint yourself and accuse others.**
"Sound proof". haha. As if this guy was there probably making those videos.
I saw a video in which the younger brother is already dead and the elder brother is being thrashed and the people are cursing police as well and asking each other whether anyone has called the police. So police
1) didn't come in time
2) did nothing to save the boys when arrived. watched silently. I am unaware of any policeman involved in beatings. may be there are some. don't know
3) didn't arrest the culprits but provided them escort while the dead bodies were taken in a truck.
Last night , Nadeem Malik showed the video in his programme Islamabad Tonight , clearly marking the police man who stood there and who have now been ordered by the court to be produced before the law.
I blame the governmental system in place, if the system fails the people what do you expect? the people will do what they please because the system is not their to account them.