Mixed Martial Arts anyone

Guys MMA has started to get popular in Pakistan… Anyone know anything please share

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hey. Im not MMA but i do box. But thinking off adding BJJ to my skill set. What do you want to know??

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MMA in Pakistan? That's REALLY impressive. Any idea what areas? I might have to tell my cousins in Lahore.

I don't do "MMA" but I do know multiple martial arts - they're just not able to be mixed together.

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Well..mixed martial arts sounds cool but unfortunately i don't know any. But i am eager to learn boxing for some reason. Not sure..when it is that going to happen.

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Xtron, any idea what you're looking for in a martial art? What are you hoping to achieve? I ask because it's important that one asks themself before taking lessons somewhere. I spent a few years boxing and while it was a good experience, it wasn't easy. I'd wager that either 8/10 or 9/10 people would end up dropping out after the first couple weeks unless you go to an authentic boxing gym.

There are a lot of great martial arts out there, so I'd definitely explore your options before picking one.

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Sorry for the late replies guys, since i am based in lahore and was visiting Islamabad, i found quite a few places that teach mixed martial arts.
Lahore has this place called Synergy Gym, PAK-MMA is lead by Bashir Ahmed a Pakistani American who is currently training to Fight in the OneFC... I have visited a few gyms and trained for a few month since my job requires me to keep moving... In Islamabad there is this group of guys called the team fortress who train at better bodies gym... I am personally certified in close protection, know boxing, thai boxing, very basic BJJ, some taewondo( yellow belt).

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Awesome, that's great news, brother. Many of us have busy lives so no need to apologize. I'm not familiar with OneFC though -- how similar to UFC is that? It's one of my biggest hopes that martial arts becomes competitive and common throughout Pakistan. I'm glad that the British-Pakistani boxer Amir Khan's been able to positively influence many young Pakistanis to step up and gain an interest in boxing, but we need more. MMA is extremely competitive but most of all, martial arts is a great discipline for the mind.

Just out of curiosity, what does it take to become "certified" in what you described as "close protection"? Does it mean you have a license of some type? Just curious. How long have you trained in boxing, Muay Thai, and BJJ? What do you think of Taekwondo so far? In my opinion, Taekwondo only becomes effective once you begin competing in tournaments.

I received a brown belt in Taekwondo when I was younger and then took some courses as a recap in college, spent 2 1/2 - 3 years boxing, and now I study Ninjutsu/Ninpo which focuses primarily on Ninpo Taijutsu and Jiu Jutsu, though there's also an emphasis placed on using and disarming weapons like swords, knives, kusarigama, 6 ft. bo staff, 3 ft jo staff, shuriken, hand/foot spikes, naginata, and a couple more which I can't seem to remember. Boxing, Taekwondo and Ninpo/Ninjutsu don't seem to go well together though so I can't say I know "MMA".

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Jalal hyder is this guy who has a very high profile, he has a lot of certificates from different places and also has licences to teach. He has personally trained top brass of Pakitan like Musharaf, Zardari, Bilawlal etc. So i was super lucky to get training from the guy and also the certificate :P. What i see martial arts is more than a mere sport, i wish to learn self defence as well to keep myself in shape, sharpen my reflexes and stuff. MMA is an entirely different sport. I have trained in Boxing, Kick Boxing and Taekwondo separately and each has its own domain and mindset. MMA has its own focus, so if you know a few other arts it is but is not really a pre req. MMA has its own techniques. This sport is evolving so we are still looking at how it goes and where it goes.
ONE FC is this asian version of UFC, where Pakistan has been registered in it. You will also find DFC( Dubai Fighting Championship) and other tournaments for entertainment. There is also one being held in India by sanjay datt and salman khan where they bring in fighters of the UFC and other places. sanjay datt started this "Mardangiri" thing to bring back the boys who had lost their traits of being a "mard":P
Mashallah Sandninjer bro you pretty much know you own game. Continue at it. I have only just recently entered the domain of MMA like april of 2012 so not really an expert in any domain. Next in my Todo list is learn Kyo Kushin. And after that i will start my own gym :P( just kidding)

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Certified in close protection means just the same as any other certification you do. There are certain criterion that need to be met, like how to dis arm a person with a knife or a gun, how to get out of a choke or suffocation, etc. This is entirely different from Martial arts. CP applies to protecting elites, there is not much show in it. The impact is huge. Range and perimeters of encounters is different. Taekwondo is indeed effective in tournaments and is for scoring points in competitions, but its wont help much if you are on the street.

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Quick question to you gentleman...what is the earliest age a little boy can start learning martial arts...and what do you recommend?

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i would have my kids learning things as early as possible, my youngest opponent was 3 and he kicked my ass in just boxing, he chased me around the ring, body shots all the way, so i bent down so he could have a woop at my face as well.

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^awwwwwwww :rotfl:

what do you recommend for a young one?

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umm 5, i would say 5 years is okay... rest is up to you, i started training when i was 26( last year) so just think what ur kid can become when he is my age :D

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Bashir Ahmad, Pakistan’s MMA founder, started sport from tiny gym that doubled as his apartment
this is the latest we are getting by Bashir Ahmed and PAK MMA

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hmmm...I was thinking to start him off earlier..hahaha...and what type of Martial arts would you think is good..?

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start with any, i have seen little boys do kick boxing at an early age, and the boy aged 3, who kicked my ass , was learning taekwondo ... depends on what is ur aim, are you trying to toughen him up and be a man from an early age or the little guy looks so cuuttteee all dressed up in a gui ... depends on ur motives again.

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^LOL!!

To toughen him up..more for discipline, respect for others...and to take care of himself...the world is only going to get worse.

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shhhh, not so loud, i too am a member of the brotherhood... i have "appointments" on monday, wed and sat...
if you want respect for others esp parents, then key to the secret is 100% halal food... if your kids has started to raise his voice on u then id better check on what the little guy is ingesting... and in no way am I saying the meals u are providing are not Halal... we are indeed living in a very difficult time and to get halal is like going upstream in a very fast current.
coz they mix haram is like even bread and stuff...
its a good thing u are thinking like that, heck when i was a kid i hated sports, i was soooo skinny that i feared breaking a bone or two

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^:cb: oh nooo…he hasn’t done anything like that…he is not even 3months yet..will be soon :cb:

I am skinny as well..and was skinnier when I was younger…but I loved sports!

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Very lucky indeed, man. Much respect to you from the States. :salute: Is OneFC ever on TV? I’d love to watch it and see what kind of fighters are being molded over there, or perhaps even on Youtube? Just imagine OneFC vs Mardangiri, lol! People won’t need to watch cricket to imagine Pakistan and India beating each other up anymore, they could just literally watch it inside a cage.

But any way, I’m no master in anything, still just a student. Ninpo/Ninjutsu is just something I started last year so still fairly new to it compared to Taekwondo and Boxing, but I appreciate it nonetheless. Kyokushin Karate is good, also has a lot of similarities to Ninpo Taijutsu and Jiu Jutsu but then again, almost every Japanese martial art has its roots from the same, or parallel, history effectively teaching many of the same concepts and styles with very minor variations. For example, Karate will show you how to snap someone’s arm in pieces from their elbow and shoulder with a hard strike whereas Ninjutsu, or Ninpo Taijutsu, will have you lock your opponent’s wrist, then slide your hand down to their elbow while holding their wrist to extend your pressure to both joints, and eventually to their shoulder all the while they’re just rolling around everywhere with very few hard strikes, just a matter of applying pressure in key areas to continue to submit your opponent. Kind of tough to explain sorry, but maybe that might picture some idea. But good luck with it!

Believe it or not, that’s kind of the impression I got from when you said CP. It sounds almost like what we learn in Ninjutsu. Much of the stuff isn’t very flashy like some of the more mainstream striking arts like taekwondo, kung fu, muay thai, boxing, etc. It’s more like those Steven Segal flicks where he just twitched an eyebrow and 5 guys around him are on the floor with dislocated shoulder blades, elbows and wrists. Okay, not quite, but the best description I have is that a lot of what they learn in Aikido is identical to some of the concepts we use in disarming. What I like about the idea of a certification is that you’re trained to just save a life as opposed to a lot of martial arts schools handing out belts and titles like no tomorrow for the sake of money.