Read this report in the paper yesterday and it freaked me out big time. One keeps hearing of this happening to people every now and then, but God forbid, what if it happens to someone we know!?
It seems the cases are on the rise and there are no checks at all. No one steps up to help anyone and there’s no authority to look after such cases.
This is serious and there ought to be something done about this.
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These cases have been steadily increasing since 9/11...Pak intelligence has never bothered with checks and balances, when this "war on terror" thing dies down Pakistan will once again be left with an out of control Intell service. We can already see the consequences in the hounding of scientists post AQ Khan and in Baluchistan.
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This is one of the problems of dictatorship coupled with an intelligence agency that is all encompassing. You live at the leave of the dictator and his henchmen.
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And worst part is , agencies are targetting educated pro religious people.
I know few fellows who had to spend some 2/4 months in thier custody but eventualy agencies found them innnocent/innocent they were.(One of them was confiscated for visiting some jihadi web site:) as he told me, he said they kept on asking about what websites do you visit etc)
Those who could not survive the torture of agnecies dont get reported.
One such case being the missing of Imam of siddq e Akbar mosque/Qubba Mosqe?? gulshan area, its been many month now and agencies are still not telling whether he is alive or not.
May ALLAH help us.
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Quotes from the article:
"If added to the Al Qaeda figure, it could easily run into a thousand, the magazine reported."
"Dr Aafia Siddiqui, a PhD in Neuro-cognitive Science, drove out of her residence in Karachi along with her three children on March 30, 2003, and did not return home."
Sadly this is common in Pak where the Agencies/Army do not obey the law.
This is what happens when Jinnah's dream of Pakistan is turned by the Generals into 'Faujistan'. :(
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"Dr Aafia Siddiqui, a PhD in Neuro-cognitive Science, drove out of her residence in Karachi along with her three children on March 30, 2003, and did not return home."
Sadly this is common in Pak where the Agencies/Army do not obey the law.
This is what happens when Jinnah's dream of Pakistan is turned by the Generals into 'Faujistan'. :(
Of course one must consider that the people who have been arrested are probably arrested for good cause. Afterall, it is the same "agencies" that put them up to no good to start with. Who better to know what is happening, than the one one who is pulling the strings.
This is what happens when you unleash jihad into your own country. Sooner or later they come back home to roost.
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God help us if we become as bad as some of our “democratic” neighbours.
Since 1989, when armed conflict started in Kashmir, more than 8,000 people have disappeared after their arrest by the law enforcing agencies. Majority of them are non-combatant Kashmiris.
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We have already surpassed our neighbors and its not just religious people who have been the target. Nationalist leaders of Balochistan and Sindh have also met the same fate. Dr. Safdar Sarki, general secretary of JSQM has still not been heard from. Dr. Allah Nazar of BSO is paralyzed and unable to speak and still in custody. By now thousands of such incidents have happened throughout Pakistan over the years. Previously it was mohajirs who met this fate. Now it’s others turn. If this keeps up, even Punjabis will not be safe soon.
Our government and army have turned into a professional kidnapping gang, only difference is that they do not ask for ransom. This is not what Jinnah created. Yet, some will still justify this as necessary for “Nazria-e-Pakistan”.
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/cowas/20060312.htm
Despite our numerous laws and legislations, despite our adherence to habeas corpus, Dr Safdar Sarki of Jeeay Sindh fame remains untraceable. Shortly after he was picked up, his wife circulated a letter via the internet, e-mail, and otherwise : “Arbitrary arrest, torture and disappearance of a Texan, Dr Safdar Sarki, by Pakistani authorities.
“On Friday, Feb. 24, 2006, my husband, Dr.Safdar Sarki, a Texan, was taken away from his temporary Karachi residence by personnel belonging to Pakistan’s intelligence agencies. Dr. Sarki, a US citizen, had been campaigning for secularism and democracy, and specifically for the protection of the rights of ethnic and religious minorities in Pakistan. Witnesses report that Dr. Sarki was severely beaten for about an hour at his apartment by Pakistani security personnel before being blindfolded and moved to an unknown location.
“We the family and other Texan-friends have been trying to determine his whereabouts but all efforts have thus far proved in vain. Anonymous sources have reported that Dr. Sarki is being tortured in the custody of the Pakistani military. However, the Pakistani authorities deny that Dr. Sarki has been arrested. This has caused serious concern for the life of Dr. Sarki, Pakistani authorities having a history of torturing dissidents to death.
“My two sons Illahi (15) and Geanum (10) and I are very concerned about the life and safety of Dr. Sarki and request your office to use all available means to locate him in order to save his life. The extra-judicial detention of a distinguished American human rights campaigner on the eve of Mr. Bush’s visit to Pakistan is a grave insult not only to our president but to all Americans who value liberty and justice for all.
“We have contacted the State Department and the US consulates in Islamabad and Karachi. They are aware of this case. However, so far, no information is available to us. Please contact the U.S. embassy in Islamabad located at Diplomatic Enclave, Ramna 5, Telephone (92-51) 208-0000; Consular section telephone (92-51) 208-2700, fax (92-51) 282-2632, website http://islamabad.usembassy.gov/; contact the U.S. consulate-general in Karachi, located at 8 Abdullah Haroon Road, Karachi;. telephone (92-21) 568-5170 (after hours: 92-21-568-1606), fax (92-21) 568-0496, website http://karachi.usconsulate.gov/.
Contact the Office of Overseas Citizens Services at 1-888-407-4747 (during business hours) or 202-647-5225 (after hours); contact the office of President Bush, who is shortly to visit Pakistan; contact the office of President Musharraf at http://www.presidentofpakistan.gov.pk/ThePresident.aspx.”
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Mohajirs suffered under the civilian government of Benazir Bhutto.
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stick to the topic instead of trying to deflect attention away from it
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Thousands of Mohajirs killed (extra-judicial murders), and hundreds missing.
That happened under the civilian government of Benazir Bhutto. That is very relevant to this topic, even if it is hard for some PPP walas to admit. I live through that period when the PPP waged a war of terror against Mohajirs in Karachi.
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There was this oft repeated story during the 1965 war with India..of Ayub Khan being furious at why military intelligence hadn't detected a certain Indian army division.. to which the intelligence chief said he has done the most possible.. but the bulk of the intelligence agency resources had been deployed against domestic opponents.
More recently the consequences of intelligence agencies running wild can be seen after Zias death and all the mess that happened as far as rigged elections.."Haqiqi" groups popping up right left and centre.
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I know few fellows who had to spend some 2/4 months in thier custody but eventualy agencies found them innnocent/innocent they were.(One of them was confiscated for visiting some jihadi web site:) as he told me, he said they kept on asking about what websites do you visit etc)
Those who could not survive the torture of agnecies dont get reported.
One such case being the missing of Imam of siddq e Akbar mosque/Qubba Mosqe?? gulshan area, its been many month now and agencies are still not telling whether he is alive or not.
May ALLAH help us.
The intelligence ppl know what they are doing, and these guys are terrorists fundos and should be shot in the rear! These are the sort of ppl that promote sectarian violence too.
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That happened under the civilian government of Benazir Bhutto. That is very relevant to this topic, even if it is hard for some PPP walas to admit. I live through that period when the PPP waged a war of terror against Mohajirs in Karachi.
Propaganda
The MQM took a deserved beating, Mohajirs like the late Munuwar Suhardy(killed by the MQM) flourished.
Anyways, back to the topic, if you want to discuss your above allegation make a seperate thread
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The MQM took a deserved beating, Mohajirs like the late Munuwar Suhardy(killed by the MQM) flourished.
Anyways, back to the topic, if you want to discuss your above allegation make a seperate thread
PPP SUCKS!
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a time may come when the intelligence agencies are after you. unless you are one of these peopel whose political and moral conviction changes witht he wind.
this is a serious issue for the country. hundreds of balochies have been kidnapped, as well as many sindhis, muhajirs, pashtuns and even punjabis who are not status quo.
this is really scary stuff.
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well said :k:
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this is a serious issue for the country. hundreds of balochies have been kidnapped, as well as many sindhis, muhajirs, pashtuns and even punjabis who are not status quo.
this is really scary stuff.
only anti-pakistani-a$$holes are taken for questioning, they dont waste their time and money on useless ppl, only the trouble makers, and I hope when they are done with their interrogation, and find out if the person is guilty, they can just shoot them in the rear without a trial.
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you are so, so naive and brainwashed 
Maybe when you grow up you will learn
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Call me whatever, but these people did not get picked up just for nothing. They must have done something to deserve this. Why I haven't been picked up or my family or friends? Yes! One of our University fellow was picked up by the agencies, and he was a culprit for sure.