Missed Prayers

Ok lets say a person missed prayers due to an illness, but is now better. Well, assuming that the person missed months of prayers - but is in excellent health now - does he/she have to catch up on them. I know that a person who is ill is excused from the prayers - but Im not quite sure what the case is if the person is able to make up for the missed salahs.

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i believe the person has to make up for those missed prayers.

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I believe they should just ask for forgiveness. and you do not need to make up for them.

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actually person needs to make up for them.

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which hadith does it say this in?

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It is a common understanding of all school of thoughts that Salah is fardh even at the time of death.

A hadeeth narrates and the meaning of which is that if a person can not pray while standing, he/she should sit and pray, and if he/she can’t do that, then prayer must be offered while laying down. And if in case, that is not possible either then pray with gestures.

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not all schools of thought believe that. what is past is forgiven…if u ask for forgiveness. Allah forgives all sins. if it should be made up, then it wouldve said so in a hadith…the prophet would have definately mentioned it.

if u had to make it up …the asking for forgiveness becomes pointless.

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Impulse: can you quote me the source now :)?

past is forgiven for whatever u do wrong.. but missed out prayers is one thing that can be prayed later there is a reason why “Qadhaa Salah” is mentioned in sunnah?

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That’s the shia school of thought too. That’s what I was gonna say. I guess he can read Qaza namaz.

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Missing the prayer is 1 sin that is not forgiven and sick people are aloud to pray in bed if they cant move they can do the prayer with their eyes. this was something i heard at the mosque

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:bism: There is no negligence while one is asleep but forgetfulness occurs when one is awake. If one forgets the prayer or sleeps through its time, then he should perform the salah when he recalls it." If one falls unconscious, then he need not repeat the salah, unless he regains his consciousness with enough time to purify himself and perform the salah within its proper time.

'Abdurrazaq relates from Naf’i that Ibn 'Umar once fell sick and became unconscious and missed the prayer. When he regained his consciousness, he did not make up the missed prayer.

Ibn Juraij reports from Ibn Tawus on the authority of his father that if a sick person becomes unconscious, he is not to make up the prayers he missed .

Mu’ammar relates: “I asked az-Zuhri about one who becomes unconscious, and he said that he is not to make up the salah he missed.”

Hamad ibn Salamah relates from Yunus ibn 'Ubaid that both al-Hassan al-Basri and Muhammad ibn Sireen said that a person who falls unconscious is not to make up the prayers he may miss.

Concerning missing a salah intentionally, the majority of the scholars say that it is a sin and the missed salah must be made up for.

If the person is Sick and he is conscious at the time of prayer and yet misses the prayer, he has to catch-up.

Abu Hanifah, Malik, and ash-Shaf’i say that he can make up the prayer after its time has expired, and Malik and Abu Hanifa even say that if a person intentionally misses a prayer or a few prayers, then he is to make up those prayers before he prays the present salah, even if he has missed all five prayers and should, while making them up, miss the present salah. They say that if he missed more than five prayers, he is to begin by praying the salah whose time is present [and then he is to make up the prayers he missed]. The proof for this position is found in the words of Allah, the Exalted: "Woe unto the worshippers who are heedless of their prayers,‘’ and: “And then there succeeded them a later generation who wasted the prayers and followed their own lusts, but they will meet with destruction.”

Walah - Allam - Bi-Sawab

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A sick person is not excused from prayers! Namaz cannot be excused under any uncircumstances. You have to make up for the missed ones.

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one logical and easy method scholars suggest for such a long lapse in the obligatory prayers is that the person prays an extra prayer (fardh) with each obligatory prayer to make up for the missed prayers....
so when he prays fajr, he can pray two rakaat fardh after the fajar prayer to make up for the missed prayer, 4 rakaat fardh after the zuhr prayer to make up for the missed zuhr prayer and so on....

so if he missed (for example) a year of prayers, he can continue this practice for a year to make up for thse prayers....
and at the same time ask for forgiveness from Allah cuz u never know u might die before completing all the missed prayers....

wallahu aa'lam bissawab....

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armughal -- well yes they can do that and catch up ,but is it true like mansoor and ramy are saying - that people who are ill are not excused? I always thought they were?

Bookworm-- Thanks for the post- it was informative.

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You are welcome.

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The best way in my opinion is to offer qaza namaz in place of nafl prayers..

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but is it true like mansoor and ramy are saying - that people who are ill are not excused? I always thought they were?
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no they are not....infact i have heared that it is in hanafi fiqah that if some one is drawining at say start of zuhr time..then he should make niyah for zuhr prayers while drawning..

second ..namaz is not exempt in jihad also..namaz khauf is offered in place of normal salah in exceptional cases..

wasalam

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only women during their monthly periods (and after child birth) r exempted from prayers....
no one else is....

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Why did God wait until the Quran to mandate the number of prayers, the type of prayers, the direction to face for prayers, the content of prayers and all these other rules for prayers? Or do people think all these rules were in place but deleted form the original scirptures (Torah, Bible)?

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earlier prophets also prayed....
Quran mentions that they did pray....
Abraham (as) built the mosque in Mecca, surely he must have prayed there....
Quran mentions that when Moses (as) was made prophet (on his way back from Madain), he was told to establish prayers....
Zakariya (as) is also mentioned to be praying in the Quran....

bible too mentions Jesus (as) praying in a way similar to what muslims pray....

the way muslims pray is not mentioned in the Quran, it is in Hadith....

sorry misunderstood ur question....
the number of prayers seem to have been different for different prophets and nations....
and the direction to face, even during the early stages of Muhammad's (saw) mission was Jersualem, later it was changed to Mecca....
so earlier prophets faced Jerusalem (bait-al-maqdes) when praying....

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Praying has always been a part of practicing religion, but the religions that Islam is based on never had all the particular rules for praying and the dire consequences for not doing them as is indicated in this thread. It just seems like if these rituals were so important they would have been revealed before the hadith came along.