what does islam says about treating with the ‘aborted fetus’? are we suppose to burry it properly or should simply through it away?
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brother in case if you don't know abortion is simply haram in Islam! It's only allowed if the child birth could result in mother's death and the wife can't do this without her husband's permission!
Now, if the abortion did follow the strict shriah guidelines then i'm not sure about the rulings regarding your question.
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i am talking about aborted fetus Without the consent or the miscarriage that happens on its own. sorry if my question is not clear enough.
u can call me sister.
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There's no janzah prayer in the case of the aborted fetus, however it should be burried just like an adult, means same Islamic rulings applies. I apologize for calling you "brother", sister. I hope this answers your question
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allah ka banda your information is incomplete.. there are dff schools of thought, and while a miscarried fetus beyond a certain gestation needs to be buried and there is no namaz e janaza, if a certain gestational period has passed and there is a loss, then the child has to be named, azaan has to be given, namaz a janaza needs to be held, ghussal is needed and of course burial. Some writings indicate the if the child can cry then
I have had the challenge of burying my children who were born premature and then we had to follow everything, and also helping a friend whose wife has a miscarriage and helping him make the arrangements for burial (no naming, janaza etc)
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by any chance would you happen to know the limit of this 'certain gestational period'?
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from what I heard anything beyonf first trimester needs burial.
as far as gestational period for janaza and all goes, I dont recall and dont have the stength right now to go open up the emails that were written on this topic, but in the end the biggest statement was that if teh child can cry..make a sound etc then you have to do proper tadfeen.
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if you ever had a time, please forward those emails OR PM that information to me.
Shukriya
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do you need it urgently. I mean if you are in a situation where the answer for this question is needed now, I can look up the info sooner rather than later.
let me know.
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Don't know if this would help..
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The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings of Allah upon him, said, "Indeed the miscarried fetus will confront his Lord if He enters his parents into the Fire. So it will be said to him, "O fetus which confronts his Lord! Enter your parents into Paradise." So he will drag them by his [umbilical] cord until he enters them into Paradise." [Ibn Majah]
The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings of Allah upon him, said, "By the One in Whose hands is my soul, the miscarried fetus will drag his mother to paradise by his [umbilical] cord if she was patient [with the miscarriage], hoping to be rewarded." [Ahmad]
The narrations are general and therefore we can assume that this applies to any miscarriage, regardless of when it was miscarried, as my teachers pointed out to me. The funeral prayer is only performed on the baby that has shown some sign of life, i.e. if it moved by itself, whimpered, etc. This baby is named, it inherits and is inherited, is washed, prayed over and buried.
The fetus which has developed such that some of its parts are discernable - such as a finger, a nail, hair, etc.- must be buried. If nothing is discernable, it need not be buried. [Maraqi al-Falah and Risalah al-Haydh wa al-Nifas]
Wasalaam,
Shaista Maqbool
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I never heard about them....Thanks for posting these Hadees
Fraudz, check your PM
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Most scholars agree that if the fetus was more than 120 days, meaning four months, when it was miscarried, then it is to be washed, shrouded and prayed for. It is also to be given a name.
If, on the other hand, the dead fetus is less than four months, it should not be washed and the Funeral Prayer should not be offered on it. It is to be wrapped in a piece of cloth and buried because it is a part of a human being and should be honored as a human being.
For more elaboration on the rulings of a miscarried baby, we would like to cite the following fatwa issued by Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and author, who states:
"If the fetus comes out alive and its cry is heard, then it dies, it should be washed and the Funeral Prayer offered for it; there is no scholarly dispute concerning this. It is mentioned in Al-Mughni: "The scholars unanimously agree that if the fetus is known to have lived and its cry has been heard, the Prayer should be offered for it. But if its cry is not heard, Imam Ahmad (may Allah have mercy on him) said: ‘If it has completed four months [gestation], then it should be washed and the Funeral Prayer offered for it.’ This is the view of Said ibn Al-Musayyab, Ibn Sireen, and Ishaq. Ibn Umar offered the Funeral Prayer for the son of his daughter who was born dead.” (Al-Mughni, 2/328)
It goes in Masa’il Al-Imam Ahmad, which (contains reports that) were narrated by his son `Abdullah: "I heard my father being asked about the newborn, when should the Funeral Prayer be offered for him? He said, 'If he was miscarried after four months [gestation], the Funeral Prayer should be offered for him.” He was asked, should the Funeral Prayer be offered for him even if his cry was not heard? He said, ‘Yes.’ ” (Masa’il Al-Imam Ahmad, 2/482, mas’alah no. 673)
The author of Al-Mughni explained the reason why the Funeral Prayer may be offered for a fetus concerning whom there is doubt that it lived at all: “The Prayer offered for him is a kind of du`a’ (supplication) for him and his parents…so there is no need to be certain and sure that he lived at all, unlike matters of inheritance.”
(Al-Mughni, 2/328)
Undoubtedly this is a good understanding, because inheritance has to do with the rights of others, whereas a prayer has to do with the relationship between a person and his Lord.
With regard to a fetus of less than four months gestation, it should not be washed and the Funeral Prayer should not be offered for it, but it should be wrapped in a cloth and buried. That is because the soul is not breathed into it until after four moths of gestation; before that it is not a soul so the Funeral Prayer cannot be offered over it; it is like inanimate object or blood.
The evidence for that is the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): “The miscarried fetus should be prayed over (the Funeral Prayer), and supplication for forgiveness and mercy for his parents should be offered.” (Narrated by Abu Dawud; classed as sahih by Sheikh Al-Albani in Sahih Al-Jami`, 3525).
In the case of a miscarried fetus whose sex cannot be determined, it should be given a name which is suitable for both males and females, such as Salamah, Qutadah, Saadah, Hind, Utbah or Hibbatu-Allah.”
From Ahkam Al-Janeen fi’l-Fiqh Al-Islami by `Umar ibn Muhammad ibn Ibrahim Ghanim
Excerpted with slight modifications from (www.islam-qa.com)
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http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547540
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.
Dear sister in Islam, we would like to thank you for the great confidence you place in us, and we implore Allah Almighty to help us serve His cause and render our work for His Sake. May Allah comfort you for your loss and grant you healthy children!
May Allah grant you patience for what you have experienced, and may He Almighty end your suffering and reward you abundantly for your patience.
In Islam, if the baby is born alive, he/she aught to be named on the seventh day following his/her birth. In case there is miscarriage, the miscarried fetus should not be named. What is important, as far as the issue in question is concerned, is that you exercise remarkable patience, feel satisfied with Allah’s Decree and pray for your offspring both the alive and the dead.
In his response to your question, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:
“There is nothing in the sources that would require us to name a fetus that has not been carried to full term and delivered as a child. Naming is prescribed only after the delivery; since that was not the case with any of the losses you mentioned, such a question does not arise.
So don’t worry about naming the lost fetuses. Accept the will of Allah with grace and pray that He grants you healthy, righteous offspring, for most certainly He is the Hearer of prayers.”
Excerpted, with slight modifications, from: www.muslims.ca
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Assalamualaikum .. happy Eid too
I'm 8 weeks preg. Two days ago we found out our baby/fetus heartbeat stop. Doctor want to wait for another week before doing D&C.
reading this
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With regard to a fetus of less than four months gestation, it should not be washed and the Funeral Prayer should not be offered for it, but it should be wrapped in a cloth and buried. That is because the soul is not breathed into it until after four moths of gestation; before that it is not a soul so the Funeral Prayer cannot be offered over it; it is like inanimate object or blood.
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I come to conclusion that we just need to wrapped the fetus in a cloth and buried.
Where should I buried the fetus? Can we buried the fetus in our backyard? We have a good area/space that have tree and no animals can dig it.
Please help.
Thank you very very much.
Assalamualaikum .. happy Eid too
I'm 8 weeks preg. Two days ago we found out our baby/fetus heartbeat stop. Doctor want to wait for another week before doing D&C.
reading this
I come to conclusion that we just need to wrapped the fetus in a cloth and buried.
Where should I buried the fetus? Can we buried the fetus in our backyard? We have a good area/space that have tree and no animals can dig it.
Please help.
Thank you very very much.
sorry I am not a religious scholar .. and my answer may not appeal to you... but at 8 weeks if the abortion is done by the doctor, then they usually discard the fetus.
Are you inquiring on taking the fetus from the medical center for proper burial?