^ I have relative who are Ahmadi and they have married into Sunni families... Fact is that most Ahmadis and Sunnis are very closely related, to the point where they are practically the same family...
Sometimes the issue is of respect. Our society is very backwards, even at the elite level sometimes. So when an Ahmadi girls is married to a Sunni, people will mock them (the girls family)... For some odd reason, marrying your daughter off is not the same as marry your son in our society.
Also, in the cases where Ahmadis have married their daughters to Sunnis, their children are usually Sunni aswell.
I have yet to meet a Sunni family that has married their daughters of into an Ahmadi household. I think I have heard of one, but not much beyond that. So its really more of a problem for Sunnis I think.
But I gess thats why not many Ahmadis marry Sunnis or vice versa, due to the stigma of it... Thats not to say it doesnt happen, but its rare... But like you said, Sunnis will not marry their daughters to Ahmadis, and thus most Ahmadis will return the respect.
Rather sad that large families and ancestoral villages are divided by something so petty as religion.
This whole your a kafir im not is Bull SH1t... Only fit for ignorant people and religous** mullah badmash **who have no respect for anything but their lame narrow minded interpretation of their religion.
Why do you think Mullahs are badmash?? If there are no mullahs, who would serve as Khatib in mosques? These mullahs have given new direction to Pakistan and placed Pakistan as favorite country among Arabs- the reason more Arab countries like us is because of very Islamic outlook shaped by these Moulvis.
Why do you think Mullahs are badmash?? If there are no mullahs, who would serve as Khatib in mosques? These mullahs have given new direction to Pakistan and placed Pakistan as favorite country among Arabs- the reason more Arab countries like us is because of very Islamic outlook shaped by these Moulvis.
Because no matter where I have gone, they have come across as being people who deserve nothing more the desdain...
Anyone with any sense of right for wrong knows that Majority of our Mullahs are doing a grave diservice to the religion.
There are many notable exceptions, but the rest leave something to be desired.
The questions of marriages and death are very sensitive in asian society. These are made complicated by those who have vested financial interests in these occasions. i.e., Mullahs.
A marriage is a social contract and anyone within the human moral values can negotaite such a contract with anyone else. The matter of permissibility in ahmadiyya community is directly related to the pledge of Bai'at which requires every ahmadi (man and woman) to obey the Khalifa and to serve the community above all other duties. For men, a marriage outside the community does not prohibit them from undertaking these responsibilities, but for women, if they marry a non-ahmadi, their faith becomes secondary to their marriage. Thus practically they take them outside the community. This is why ahmadi women are not allowed to mary non-ahmadis. But in case they go ahead and marry someone, there is no "fatwa" of kufr or adultery against them. Their honour is still the same. But the loose their membership.
As for deaths, every muslim (ahmadi or non-ahmadi) deservers to be buried with a Janaza prayer. In a scenario, even if an enemy of the Jamaat dies and none of his sect-fellows are availabe to read his janaza, it is the duty of Ahmadis to arrange for his proper muslim burial. In normal circumstances, Ahmadis do not pray behind an imam who is a "mukazzib" or a rejector. This is a matter of religious principle as we believe in a Divinely appointed Imam and anyone who thinks him a liar should not be followed in religious observance. This person can be followed in worldly matters, but faith is a personal thing.
Also, We Ahmadis do not call anyone a Non-Muslim. If you call yourself a muslim, then you are a Muslim. The matter of Kufr is confused by wrong interpretations. Kufr means to reject. And a person can be a muslim and a Kafir at the same time. For example anyone who abandons prayers knowingly commits Kufr. But he is still a muslim..
I hope this clarifies the situation.
Well, no group is perfect.. No relgion is without its problems...
But we should all work towards unity and reconciliation.
why are you wasting your precious time here? Don't you see that these people here are victims of their earthly necessities? Their earthly necessity is to make a mockery of Islam by having their own way of life and accusing others of nonsense.
I don't like to pick up aynone, but anyone remember when hareem01 quoted MGA saying "In a dream I was God..."
She only posted these 6 words and made a mockery of MGA. Everyone is making a mockery without having studied it completely. Hareem01 didn't post the complete sentence of MGA...This debateless anyway, because I won't let that happen again!
Once I opened a Thread and thought we could get close, but we can't yet! These people want Jesus back, let 'em have him. We have Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (ra) and the best Prophets of all, the King of the Prophets, the Commander, the Chief, the Seal of the Prophets Muhammad Mustafa (saw). That should be enough!
aap log ahmadi logun ke pare main kya jante hai `?
please tell me about marzei
Kindly, just write Ahmadi / mirzei/ Qadyani in "search" option and you would find a lot of threads in which a lot of people have shared their views about them. Even if you scroll through the pages of this thread you would find a lot of views. Still if you face problems in understanding their views please visit their official website through Google search engine.
Most of us know that such topics mostly ends up with a bad taste and hurting of feelings of at least one group of people. Also no one is convinced by the arguments of the opponents but a lot of views turn into arguments and personal attacks, I don't think there is any use of bumping an old thread to refresh those wounds which would not help much in creating unity among Muslim Ummah at such a critical time.
Those who disagree and want this thread to be re-opened, please pm any mod and show any example of a single thread in the past that was useful for the readers in terms of friendly mutual understanding of each others without much personal attacks and offensive comments.